It's not really useful for you to make this thread right now. We're months out. The third parties haven't even had their conventions. There's also a chance, albeit unlikely, that Bernie Sanders could still win the nomination. Something around a 3-4% chance.
That said, no, not every Sanders supporter is going to vote Clinton "because they share similar ideologies." They don't. Last I heard something like 34% of Sanders supporters won't vote Clinton. You have to remember, a great number of Sanders supporters are people that were drawn into the process by Sanders, and independents, that wouldn't have otherwise voted at all. But, I'll get to that later.
After New York I was pretty convinced that the General was going to be Hillary vs Trump but I wasn't going to support Hillary no matter what. My plan was to vote for Jill Stein but it turns out that I can't even vote for someone in the Green Party in Oklahoma. If anyone else was planning on doing the same then you should know that there are a lot of states where you can't currently and you may need to help sign petitions to get it on your state's ballot. You can see a map here
which shows where you can't currently vote Green Party in the General. Some of those, like Oklahoma, have already met their deadlines
for their petitions.
So, I did the unthinkable - no, the really
unthinkable - I actually looked up Donald Trump's economic policy. I knew that he was against all of these terrible trade deals like the TPP and aside from that... his policies are bad. Like, real bad. A lot of his ideas don't even seem to have any basis in reality, they're just random things that he thinks. He would be worse for our country than Reagan and we still haven't recovered from that moron with his voodoo economics - that's what Bush said about them when they were running against one another. I have an entire rant about Reagan here
So then I looked at Hillary's plans - all of them. Awful. For instance, know how she's going to pay for helping out kids with paying for college? This is quoted word-for-word from her website: "Students will do their part by contributing their earnings from working 10 hours a week." Are you fucking serious?!
That's like paying $600 a month or $7,200 a year. No, that is exactly what that is. Her healthcare plan is basically "do nothing but make it look like I'm fighting really hard." It's kiddie gloves stuff, seriously. On national security she plans to "Defeat ISIS and global terrorism and the ideologies that drive it." She also wants to " ensure the United States maintains the best-trained, best-equipped, and strongest military the world has ever known" which to me says either leave military spending alone or increase
it. The only thing in any of her issues that she seems remotely tough on I'm not sure that she'll even do it like campaign finance reform, going for wall street, closing tax loopholes and so on. I think it's going to be kids gloves stuff and new stuff will probably just get passed that does the same thing.
If Bernie doesn't win the nomination by some miracle there is nobody left that deserves to be President that I could vote for, and no one that I will
vote for. At this point I think my only option is going to be to just leave the President field blank and just fill in my votes for the other serious issues on the ballot instead. I feel really disappointed by this country's democrats. We really dropped the ball. I just don't understand how so many people could possibly want to vote for Hillary. It makes no sense. I know they're mostly just watching the corporate media which are basically shills for Hillary but it's so god damned infuriating. "The people have spoken, the bastards." -Dick Tuck
The only real hope I have left is if Bernie loses if he actually takes keeping his political revolution going very seriously and transforms his campaign into a movement not focused on electing him or supporting Hillary, but focused on electing Progressives into office at every level of government that are going to do the right thing, and helping them fund and run their campaigns and if there are none then maybe find some and convince them to run and help them do it. That's the only way we'll change the country no matter who gets elected, and it's the only way I think we'll see real change with Hillary as President. I don't think even she would veto something like Universal Healthcare and so on if we actually manage to get it on her desk. It would be political suicide.
tl;dr: If by some miracle Bernie gets the nomination, he has my vote. If not, and if the Green Party somehow gets on the ballot in Oklahoma, then I'll vote for Jill Stein of the Green Party. If not, I'm leaving my ballot blank for the Presidential race. Trump & Clinton are both scum and neither deserve my vote - their policies are pure shit.
If any of you are considering voting for either of those morons then I challenge you this: Go to each of their websites and read through all of their policies, and actually think about them.https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
You should be able to figure out what's wrong with Hillary's policies on your own. Trump's, you might need to think about a bit more to understand the full extent of their impact...http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2016-03-11/donald-trumps-economic-policies-will-cost-americanshttp://money.cnn.com/2015/07/28/news/economy/donald-trump-polls-taxes-wages/http://www.thestreet.com/story/13335121/1/if-donald-trump-was-president-here-s-what-would-happen-to-the-u-s-economy.htmlhttp://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan
This paper analyzes presidential candidate Donald Trump’s tax proposal. His plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates on individuals and businesses, increase standard deduction amounts to nearly four times current levels, and curtail many tax expenditures. His proposal would cut taxes at all income levels, although the largest benefits, in dollar and percentage terms, would go to the highest-income households. The plan would reduce federal revenues by $9.5 trillion over its first decade before accounting for added interest costs or considering macroeconomic feedback effects. The plan would improve incentives to work, save, and invest. However, unless it is accompanied by very large spending cuts, it could increase the national debt by nearly 80 percent of gross domestic product by 2036, offsetting some or all of the incentive effects of the tax cuts.
Trump has also pinpointed imposing tariffs on imported goods, for example, suggesting a 35% tax on automakers that manufacture cars in Mexico. Such a maneuver might bring jobs back stateside, but it might not. Instead, it could just mean people paying more for what they're buying.
"If he puts 35% taxes on products, the manufacturing will still not come back to the U.S., and all it will mean is U.S. consumers have to pay 35% more for the products that are made outside the country," said Busler.
"American consumers would end up paying more for things, and that hurts the economy if you're putting tariffs on those other things," said Matthews.
You can just search his policies on things that seem odd and what their impacts will be, like deporting all of those immigrants, building the wall, healthcare, and so on. In short, it'll be really bad. We'll probably be so in debt that we'll be thought of like Greece. The lowest tax brackets won't be paying taxes at all and all the higher tax brackets will have significantly lower taxes (like halved, or more). It's just going to cripple the government's ability to generate federal revenue.