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Discussion Forums => General Discussions => Topic started by: dvuongz on August 14, 2008, 03:12:07 PM
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Sorry if it sounds incoherent or dumb in any way but....
FUCKRAGE!
I return from my camping trip, eager to watch some anime. So then I boot my brand new Hp Elite m9305f up to watch my anime. And the boot hangs....and hangs....and hangs.....DESPTIE THE FACT THAT IT WAS WORKING FINE LAST WEEK!
All my anime is stored on that computer, and I haven't gotten around to making a back up...(MY FAULT)
So, long story short, there is a slight chance that I might lose about 90+ gigs of anime, plus all my currently downloading torrents.....
AND I DIDN"T EVEN FUTCH WITH THE DAMN MACHINE IN THE PAST WEEK! WTF????
WHY!
Tech support was no frickin help either (no big surprise). They suggest it was a virus. From what, may I ask? The computer was working before I left, and while I was gone, All it was doing was seeding torrents from Box. And i'm sure there are no viruses there, especially since I WAS UPLOADING THOSE FILES ALREADY!
So I have no idea what the hell caused it
I have no idea why the hell it happened
I have no idea if it'll be ok
/fuckrage
by the way, if anyone wants to offeer suggestions:
HP Pavillion Elite Desktop m3905f
AMD Phenom quad core @ 2.4 ghz each
Nvidia geforce 9800 gt
6 gig ram
x64 Vista Home Premium
First computer will usually hang. Then on restart (and subsequent restarts) will hang on the "Welcome" screen.
Then it will go straight from boot screen to black screen to oblivion....
If I lose my anime.............. ....>=(
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That's Windows for ya. I can't count the number of times Windows has screwed itself up for me with no good reason. It's weird at best.
Have you tried booting into Safe Mode? If that doesn't work, I suggest downloading a Linux LiveCD of some sort and burning it with a different computer. This will allow you to boot from the CD and rescue your anime through some means (burning it, copying it to an external HD, copying it to another computer through the network) before you attempt repairing or reinstalling Windows.
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That's what you get for buying pre-build (and an expensive one at that)... =/
Anyways, check your BIOS to see if all your parts are connected properly, if you find nothing wrong, reconnect all your cables (inside the case, that is), boot up.
If this doesn't work, take out your HD and plug it in another computer, if it's working, you can backup your files, if it doesn't get recognized, it's probably corrupted. If you're able to back up your shit, pop in the Vista DVD and re-install your OS (boot order has to be fixed, otherwise you won't boot from the DVD).
If the drive is corrupted, shitsux, you'll need a new one.
EDIT: Oh, iindigo has a good point, try to get a Linux live cd.
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Power off the damn thing, leave it unplugged for an hour or two... and see if it magically repairs itself. (might as well power cycle router at that point too)
Idk... it happens to me from time to time. Either I wait for a long time for boot to go. (Then rest magically works) or It repairs itself after a power off.
But yeah, it could be a corrupted HDD too, which would take upwards of 40 mins to boot up.
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Great...now all I get is a BSoD...and I didn't even touch anything. Takin this shiet back to get it exchanged.
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Great...now all I get is a BSoD...and I didn't even touch anything. Takin this shiet back to get it exchanged.
tell them you want your information off your HDD dummy they can do that easily
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Yeah, but does best buy do it if I don't have that "service plan" or whatever?
If they just need to charge me extra, ill gladly pay it
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Yeah, but does best buy do it if I don't have that "service plan" or whatever?
If they just need to charge me extra, ill gladly pay it
As long as it's under warranty, it should be fine.
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NEVER BUY A PRE-BUILT..NEVER BUY A PC FROM BESTBUY...if you do that you wont have problems
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NEVER BUY A PRE-BUILT..NEVER BUY A PC FROM BESTBUY...if you do that you wont have problems
Thats what I was telling myself when I was needing a new computer. But i was extremely short on time, and it was a loong week. I had a moment of weakness.
As for warranty, best buy automatically gives every electronics purchase a 30-day warranty, correct?
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90GB is cheap .. I lost 200GB once, and that was a few years ago when the biggest disks were only 120GB and pricy as hell, oh, and when you were happy with 30kb/s down.
--Jarudin--
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Ah well, I just found out, my computer is no longer under best buy's warranty....so now I have to attempt to diplomatize with the manufacturer to get me a replacement....this is so lame...
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Ah well, I just found out, my computer is no longer under best buy's warranty....so now I have to attempt to diplomatize with the manufacturer to get me a replacement....this is so lame...
I thought the repaired that stuff for free for a period of up to 1 year.
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I hope to god so.....have you ever been so angry/annoyed that you feel yourself snap and just feel like laughing? Or just being unbelievably calm? Cause I'm There right now....
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Wait... this is a desktop? Find your old one and swap the HDD in there and take a look to see if the info is still there. It's not that hard... just slam it in as the secondary or something.
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I was about to suggest that. Can you transfer the HD to an external case and plug it into another system?
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Not to mention, if you are able to do that... and you begin modding and playing with files here and there... it might resolve itself.
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I'd love to try that, but my old desktop is way old. I mean wayyyy old, to the point where the HDD is prolly not backwards compatible
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Hmmm I see.
I honestly considering buying one or those 200 dollar desktops that are "low end" or "refurbished" just so I can slam some HDDs in there and use it for storage. It would help reduce the strain I put on my current comp.............. the dell laptop. >_>
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Don't know the format you saved files under, but after you make a copy of the files from the hard drive on another PC, you might use one of the freeware tools to try to recover files if they are not recovering properly. Even if you only recover partial files, you can use bittorrent to check and repair the missing Pieces in the file. Having long-lived torrents on boxtorrents is a good thing for those people who occasionally get corrupted files that need repairing.
You might try your favourite disk recovery tool such as ONTRACK PRO or one of the other commercial tools. Smart NTFS recovery seems to have gone to payware, but there were some old freeware versions still available. It would be used on your original drive of course, and you save the files to the other destination drive.
SMART NTFS Recover (last known freeware version 3.2 or 3.9)
http://www.shareup.com/Smart_NTFS_Recovery-download-43376.html
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Smart-NTFS-Recovery-Download-32575.html
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You can do this to any desktop, alternatively, buy a HDD external case and plug it in the computer you're posting from.
Now you'll also have an external, so you can backup your files any time. (I ♥ my 500GB Seagate external, makes managing my anime so much more simple...)
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Well the bomb just got dropped. One of my more tech savvy friends told me that the HDD is not salvageable. Gonna have to send it into HP and have them do a complete rewrite of the HDD and BIOS
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Well the bomb just got dropped. One of my more tech savvy friends told me that the HDD is not salvageable. Gonna have to send it into HP and have them do a complete rewrite of the HDD and BIOS
did you try to back your shit up to be sure? There's a good chance that it's just your Windows getting fucked...
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i've tried every trick in the book.
the hard drive got buttraped....
MAN!
Gonna take forever to rebuild that collection.
Can't believe it took Clannad, Spice and wolf, Haruhi, AND Lucky Star with it
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Ouch.... That's a low blow.... 90 gigs....
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Externals are definitely the way to go. I have a 500 gig and 300 gig. I don't know what I'd do without them.
One of my more tech savvy friends told me that the HDD is not salvageable.
Ask him why and tell us what he said before you send anything off. There's all sorts of creative ways to deal with computer problems.
When you say your old PC is old, just how old do you mean? You can probably plug the HDD into it to check it out contrary to your belief.
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He said that the Hard Disk seems completely corrupted. i can't even boot safe mode.
As for the other computer, let's put it in perspective. I'm 15. That thing is my senior >_>
But HP is sending me a new HDD, so once I get that, I'll try and salvage whatever I can, even if its one episode. The funny thing is, I was only 0.03 away from having a 1.0 upload ratio =\
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Yea... that's killer on your ratio.
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Is it possible to find a torrent on another tracker, download it, rename the files to what our tracker uses, and upload it that way?
Then again, that'd be cheating, wouldn't it...
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i've tried every trick in the book.
the hard drive got buttraped....
MAN!
Gonna take forever to rebuild that collection.
Can't believe it took Clannad, Spice and wolf, Haruhi, AND Lucky Star with it
Unless you're using dial up, with the status of those animes on box... you'll be back on your feet in 2 weeks. Max.
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That's what I estimated. I can download for about 19 hours per day, at an approximate average rate of 1GB/4-6 hours.
Also factoring upload times (about half the speed of download), its gonna be 2, maybe 2 and a half
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Gonna take forever to rebuild that collection.
Can't believe it took Clannad, Spice and wolf, Haruhi, AND Lucky Star with it
:O Wow, that would leave a gaping hole in my heart if it happened to me... for maybe a day or two I guess. But, still... ouch ;\
Is it possible to find a torrent on another tracker, download it, rename the files to what our tracker uses, and upload it that way?
Then again, that'd be cheating, wouldn't it...
Not if you seed it back, LOL. I do that most of the time anyway.
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Gah. I was typing out a message (yesterday) but ... I forgot to post.
For that BSOD - I've seen issues like this - and it's usually some type of issue generated from an improper shutdown. Hardware failures do happen - but in my experience - it's USUALLY not the hardware. Unless that PC is a few years old (which, it looks like it's NOT. )
But - the good thing - plenty of times the event log will provide you insight on whether it's a hardware failure or not. But enough of that -
fire that sucker up and get that BSOD's stop message -
There may be a driver ( thisdriversux.dll , goatsemadethis.sys, etc for example ) - if there is - write it down.
There's also a stop code - looks like this: STOP : 0x00000000 ( 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 )
That stop code there - that sheds light on the whole problem. Write the whole thing down. Oh ... wait a sec ... it's 2008, I'm still thinking it's 1998. Snap a picture of it with your digital camera. XD
But anyway - that BSOD tells all. You might be able to fix that comp without spending a cent. Which is the way I like it. ;)
[ If mods get angry @ tech help in the forum - just PM me a copy of that info. I'll let you know what I can find out about it. ]
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90% of all BSOD is software related 10% is hardware (this is what I have seen too..just like Kyanwan)....its been a long time since I seen a BSOD
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My last BSOD was from service pack 3 update which BSOD everytime I plugged in a "plug and play" item. Like... wifi mice or even wired mice.
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I called up HP and they are sending me a new HD for free. And if the real problem is due to the motherboard, then I get to send it in to the shop. For Free.
At any rate, the stop error is
0x0000C1F5
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So, long story short, there is a slight chance that I might lose about 90+ gigs of anime, plus all my currently downloading torrents.....
You're lucky... I'm still hit with ripples from my 1.5 TB drive crash a few months back (of which about a half was filled with anime...). Just noticed Ushio and Tora was one of the 'lost' ones and now desperately trying to get the files back from a half-dead torrent :-\...
Luckily I've somehow managed to get back most of the stuff I didn't already have alternate versions for or that are easily obtainable... Too bad I don't know exactly what files there were so probably will bump into a few more 'Ushio and Tora's at some point...
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I've been getting BSODs using Corsair DDR1066 RAM with my mobo. Lame.
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I've been getting BSODs using Corsair DDR1066 RAM with my mobo. Lame.
increase the voltage a bit and that should stop
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Oh no, it just became my turn minutes ago to have PANIC/FCUKRAGE. I had bought an external Maxtor 750GB drive. After formatting it with the slow version format and then running the slow version scandisk that checks all the sectors, I thought it was ready to use. It was the first 750GB drive and I was planning to buy more to replace the old 250GB ones. I had moved the "L" and "M" files to it, then flushed the buffers before rebooting. Flushing the buffers is one way to make sure you have nothing cached. Not that it matters since I have the properties set for external drives to NOT cache since to me safety and not speed are more important.
After the reboot, for some strange reason, checkdisk decided to automatically run on the new drive during the winXP bootup. I went off to do something else and came back after the whole winXP bootup was done.
The files on the 750GB drive are corrupted. It looks like "L" and "M" are lost. Now I wish big series like "Legend of the Galactic Heroes" were titled "Wegend of the Galactic Heroes" since then it would have been stored on some other drive. *wry grin* I have Wast Exile on DVD but ironically, like with most of my anime, I have watched the fansub versions more than the official purchased versions. Convenience? Preference? Less censorship in the fansub versions? Maybe it is a combination of all of those factors. Oh well. I lost Wacross Frontier too, but not a big loss since I will buy the bluerays when they ever decide to make them available. Hopefully the "deculture" edition of Wacross Frontier will be available as an extra on one of the bluerays.
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I've heard that these huge hard drives (600+) are more prone to failures, since they stick more information on the same amount of space as smaller hard drives, so the magnetic lines are actually a lot closer together. Supposedly, that can cause extreme problems...
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I've heard that these huge hard drives (600+) are more prone to failures, since they stick more information on the same amount of space as smaller hard drives, so the magnetic lines are actually a lot closer together. Supposedly, that can cause extreme problems...
Yeah, and that really sucks when even 500GB drives start to feel cramped. Makes buying those 750GB and 1TB disks a lot less attractive.
I really hope solid state drives get to the point where they are cheap and huge soon. HDs as we've known them for a long time now are really becoming limited.
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Yeah, and that really sucks when even 500GB drives start to feel cramped. Makes buying those 750GB and 1TB disks a lot less attractive.
I really hope solid state drives get to the point where they are cheap and huge soon. HDs as we've known them for a long time now are really becoming limited.
the problem with solid state drives is that they use flash memory which can't support as many write cycles as a regular HDD. i hope they fix that soon tho. :-\
EDIT: i just read that SSDs based on dRAM dont suffer from this problem
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I've heard that these huge hard drives (600+) are more prone to failures, since they stick more information on the same amount of space as smaller hard drives, so the magnetic lines are actually a lot closer together. Supposedly, that can cause extreme problems...
Yeah, and that really sucks when even 500GB drives start to feel cramped. Makes buying those 750GB and 1TB disks a lot less attractive.
I really hope solid state drives get to the point where they are cheap and huge soon. HDs as we've known them for a long time now are really becoming limited.
Seagate announced they will be releasing a 2TB Solid State Drive
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I've heard that these huge hard drives (600+) are more prone to failures, since they stick more information on the same amount of space as smaller hard drives, so the magnetic lines are actually a lot closer together. Supposedly, that can cause extreme problems...
Yeah, and that really sucks when even 500GB drives start to feel cramped. Makes buying those 750GB and 1TB disks a lot less attractive.
I really hope solid state drives get to the point where they are cheap and huge soon. HDs as we've known them for a long time now are really becoming limited.
Seagate announced they will be releasing a 2TB Solid State Drive
That's pretty sweet... I'm guessing it'll cost both arms, both legs, your left nut and your eternal soul to buy if the current smaller ones are any indication (an 80GB SSD is well over $300US right now).
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Intel says their 128GB SSDs will cost about US$300 when it's released next year, so I'd think a 2TB SSD would cost more than US$2500 if it's released before 2010.
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Its really tempting to buy a solid state right now, but...damn... pretty expensive.
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Intel announced their version of the USB 3.0 specification so I am looking forward to seeing future SSD drives incorporate USB 3.0 directly on the drive chassis in the same way SATA II is now. Maybe all these new extra-large SSD drives can come out in a timely manner after USB 3.0 is officially tweaked and approved as a new USB standard.
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Its really tempting to buy a solid state right now, but...damn... pretty expensive.
Or you could buy a couple of HDDs for backup...
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This is Exactly why I want Blu-Ray Drives to come down in price. It takes so many DVDs to backup a large Hard disk that not everything gets backed up, but Double layer Blu-Ray discs hold 50GB so that would really help for backup if only the drives didnt cost your right arm
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Wouldn't you also need a blu-ray disc drive...which are kinda not cheap
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946084
Seems there's a problem with a logfile / driver. The common cause would be the file or driver was damaged during shutdown. The uncommon cause would be damaged hardware.
If you can get into Safe Mode, or boot from recovery CD into your system, you may be able to hammer the problem out.
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:)
If it's of any consolation - I once ran a firewall off a flashdrive for kicks. It lasted about a year and a half of 24-7 industrial use.
I then broke down and bought a Sonicwall. ( Wish I bought a Snapgear FIRST... SG makes Sonic look like crap. )
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Anyway, large format drives - really - should wait a YEAR until the tech is stabilized until you really jump in, if you're concerned with reliability.
OR - until you have a reliable backup format that can support such a large drive.
I've been keeping my volumes around 80-100GB - since replacements are readily available. Still, that's a dangerous size of data to keep ... when I only have access to 4GB backups (DVD)
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When that checkdisk ran, it moved files around. It also didn't move the entire file around as some files ended up having sizes as small as 8MB. Naturally, when checkdisk ran, it rewrote what it considered to be the truth into file directories. Thus, when I ran file recovery tools, I would get to see multiple file start/stop points, and files with none, one, or two video file headers (avi, mkv, mp4, mpg, ogg, wmv).
At times like this, Boxtorrents with its LONG-LIVED-TORRENTS becomes more than an anime source; boxtorrents is a file-repair tool. I was able to recover most of the "M" files with minor errors. Some of the "M" files are lost as they were from sources that no longer exist (distro). However, a number of them are torrented at boxtorrents, so i was able to repair those files that were corrupted with 2% of bad data. To boxtorrents, the corrupted file is 98% complete and so the 2% was recoverable. But pretty much all the "L" files are gone.
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Something has always been strange with that maxtor-branded external 750GB drive. It has always had a very slow scandisk run. Any idea what that means when even an empty newly formatted drive has a superslow scandisk run? Incompatible something?
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That reminds me of something... it's occurred to me that none of my Macs or Linux boxes have ever run a disk check/repair utility on their own accord, and short of one HD hardware failure, none have given me trouble.
Are ext2, ext3, and HFS+ less prone to data damage than FAT16/32 and NTFS or something?
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That reminds me of something... it's occurred to me that none of my Macs or Linux boxes have ever run a disk check/repair utility on their own accord, and short of one HD hardware failure, none have given me trouble.
Are ext2, ext3, and HFS+ less prone to data damage than FAT16/32 and NTFS or something?
So you've never ran OS X's Disk utility to check the filesystem? While it doesnt happen often, HFS+ does get errors from time to time. Choose "Verify Disk" in Disk Utility to check for errors.
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That reminds me of something... it's occurred to me that none of my Macs or Linux boxes have ever run a disk check/repair utility on their own accord, and short of one HD hardware failure, none have given me trouble.
Are ext2, ext3, and HFS+ less prone to data damage than FAT16/32 and NTFS or something?
So you've never ran OS X's Disk utility to check the filesystem? While it doesnt happen often, HFS+ does get errors from time to time. Choose "Verify Disk" in Disk Utility to check for errors.
Actually, ever since Mac OS X 10.3 (or was that 10.2?), the Disk Utility doesn't allow you to perform repairs on the disk that you are currently booted from. It only allows you to repair permissions, which is completely unrelated to the disk's health.
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That reminds me of something... it's occurred to me that none of my Macs or Linux boxes have ever run a disk check/repair utility on their own accord, and short of one HD hardware failure, none have given me trouble.
Are ext2, ext3, and HFS+ less prone to data damage than FAT16/32 and NTFS or something?
So you've never ran OS X's Disk utility to check the filesystem? While it doesnt happen often, HFS+ does get errors from time to time. Choose "Verify Disk" in Disk Utility to check for errors.
Actually, ever since Mac OS X 10.3 (or was that 10.2?), the Disk Utility doesn't allow you to perform repairs on the disk that you are currently booted from. It only allows you to repair permissions, which is completely unrelated to the disk's health.
10.5 (Leopard) will allow you to Check for problems (Verify) while booted from the disk, but you must still boot from another volume (such as the Install DVD) to actually do the repair if something needs to be fixed.
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That reminds me of something... it's occurred to me that none of my Macs or Linux boxes have ever run a disk check/repair utility on their own accord, and short of one HD hardware failure, none have given me trouble.
Are ext2, ext3, and HFS+ less prone to data damage than FAT16/32 and NTFS or something?
So you've never ran OS X's Disk utility to check the filesystem? While it doesnt happen often, HFS+ does get errors from time to time. Choose "Verify Disk" in Disk Utility to check for errors.
Actually, ever since Mac OS X 10.3 (or was that 10.2?), the Disk Utility doesn't allow you to perform repairs on the disk that you are currently booted from. It only allows you to repair permissions, which is completely unrelated to the disk's health.
10.5 (Leopard) will allow you to Check for problems (Verify) while booted from the disk, but you must still boot from another volume (such as the Install DVD) to actually do the repair if something needs to be fixed.
That's silly.
Doesn't Microsoft allow you do to this via a load screen or something? (not running the OS)
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That's silly.
Doesn't Microsoft allow you do to this via a load screen or something? (not running the OS)
Yeah Windows will run the repair on the next restart, and the old Mac OS would too (8.x-9.x) So I dont know whats keeping them form doing it now.
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That's silly.
Doesn't Microsoft allow you do to this via a load screen or something? (not running the OS)
Yeah Windows will run the repair on the next restart, and the old Mac OS would too (8.x-9.x) So I dont know whats keeping them form doing it now.
The fact Apple replaced BIOS? Maybe they didn't reprogram it (at thus point yet) to be able to do that?
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That's silly.
Doesn't Microsoft allow you do to this via a load screen or something? (not running the OS)
Yeah Windows will run the repair on the next restart, and the old Mac OS would too (8.x-9.x) So I dont know whats keeping them form doing it now.
The fact Apple replaced BIOS? Maybe they didn't reprogram it (at thus point yet) to be able to do that?
That might be it, but Apple hasn't ever used standard PC BIOS. Back in the PowerPC days, before they adopted EFI, they used a custom boot thing that used Open Firmware (Wikipedia Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware)).
Perhaps Apple feels that regular disk checks aren't necessary? I don't know. It might play into HFS+'s journaling system that was added back in 10.3.
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That's silly.
Doesn't Microsoft allow you do to this via a load screen or something? (not running the OS)
Yeah Windows will run the repair on the next restart, and the old Mac OS would too (8.x-9.x) So I dont know whats keeping them form doing it now.
The fact Apple replaced BIOS? Maybe they didn't reprogram it (at thus point yet) to be able to do that?
That might be it, but Apple hasn't ever used standard PC BIOS. Back in the PowerPC days, before they adopted EFI, they used a custom boot thing that used Open Firmware (Wikipedia Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware)).
Perhaps Apple feels that regular disk checks aren't necessary? I don't know. It might play into HFS+'s journaling system that was added back in 10.3.
Possibly. It's quite often that apple lops off random stuff deemed "non required" off a computer. (floppy drives to CD drives in the Air).
Too bad apple has quite a track record with HDDs. My friends alone... approx 30-40% have had a HDD die on them. And this ratio comes from less than 10 Macbooks. That utility would be useful. (But I'm still never touching an apple comp if I have to pay myself.)
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That's silly.
Doesn't Microsoft allow you do to this via a load screen or something? (not running the OS)
Yeah Windows will run the repair on the next restart, and the old Mac OS would too (8.x-9.x) So I dont know whats keeping them form doing it now.
The fact Apple replaced BIOS? Maybe they didn't reprogram it (at thus point yet) to be able to do that?
That might be it, but Apple hasn't ever used standard PC BIOS. Back in the PowerPC days, before they adopted EFI, they used a custom boot thing that used Open Firmware (Wikipedia Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware)).
Perhaps Apple feels that regular disk checks aren't necessary? I don't know. It might play into HFS+'s journaling system that was added back in 10.3.
Possibly. It's quite often that apple lops off random stuff deemed "non required" off a computer. (floppy drives to CD drives in the Air).
Too bad apple has quite a track record with HDDs. My friends alone... approx 30-40% have had a HDD die on them. And this ratio comes from less than 10 Macbooks. That utility would be useful. (But I'm still never touching an apple comp if I have to pay myself.)
Only Macbooks, huh? Sounds to me like they're dying from heat.
Floppies? Well honestly their usefulness has passed by now and was questionable even then. Floppies just plain out stink, so I don't blame them for trying to get rid of the crummy old things.
And CDs... well, I guess they were just trying to squeeze the air down as far as they could. I don't really know, because I'll never buy an air for the same reason I won't ever buy an Eee PC - they're weak as piss, not to mention the air is outrageously priced.
But back on the subject of disks. Apple is supposedly adopting ZFS for 10.6, which would be quite nice if it comes through. We've been using HFS+ since 1998 and plain old HFS since the early 90's.
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curious @ inital fuckrage and panic guy do you happen to have another HDD laying around you can install windows on to run your HP and dont assume your HDD is dead until you at the very least have plugged it into another source to try and get it functioning
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I will try that. HP is sending me a new HDD anyway, so after i install that, I can slave the damaged one to it and see what I can do.
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yea because while it may appear to be fucked it may be recoverable by swapping it intoa slave drive or into external and you might be able to get most of your files also check sites like thepiratebay for anime you had or the groups websites on their trackers for torrents for non tracked download amounts that wont kill your ratio.
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Yeah. God I can't believe it dies when I was only .03 away from power user status =\
Someone is toying with me...
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It's interesting what slaving can do. A "corrupted" drive I have function normally as a slave. I can't defrag that drive... but at least I didn't lose any info on it.
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That reminds me of something... it's occurred to me that none of my Macs or Linux boxes have ever run a disk check/repair utility on their own accord, and short of one HD hardware failure, none have given me trouble.
Are ext2, ext3, and HFS+ less prone to data damage than FAT16/32 and NTFS or something?
Are you joking, or using some linux build I've never seen?
I've used a variety of builds - and each one would know if the system were improperly handled and would check the disks automatically on the next boot.
But, hell - it's an industry wide known fact that Winblows ... it's prone to the microkernel driver files and shit dying all over the place. The OS vitals in Linux are stored in the macrokernel - which is by its nature less prone to damage than Windows components.
There's your answer right there. ( Windows = 1,000,000 files to the kernel { I'm exaggerating a little ;) }. Linux = 1. Where's there more room for problems? )
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That reminds me of something... it's occurred to me that none of my Macs or Linux boxes have ever run a disk check/repair utility on their own accord, and short of one HD hardware failure, none have given me trouble.
Are ext2, ext3, and HFS+ less prone to data damage than FAT16/32 and NTFS or something?
Are you joking, or using some linux build I've never seen?
I've used a variety of builds - and each one would know if the system were improperly handled and would check the disks automatically on the next boot.
But, hell - it's an industry wide known fact that Winblows ... it's prone to the microkernel driver files and shit dying all over the place. The OS vitals in Linux are stored in the macrokernel - which is by its nature less prone to damage than Windows components.
There's your answer right there. ( Windows = 1,000,000 files to the kernel { I'm exaggerating a little ;) }. Linux = 1. Where's there more room for problems? )
I've played with Ubuntu, Mandrake, Yellow Dog Linux, and Fedora over the years, and none of them did a disk check with fsck or anything else after being forcibly shut down (holding down power button, or pulling the plug). Maybe it's doing a check but not showing any output and doing the check really stinkin' fast, I don't know.
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Well, I am hoping that the drives keep having more price reductions. It may soon come to the day when I make TWO copies of the files. One on the everyday use drives, and one on the backup copy drives for achival. It's so annoying having to check and replace corrupted files and missing files. And no, I didn't archive copies to DVDR due to the annoyance of dealing with all the discs and cataloging them for 2TB worth of files.
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Good god, I tried slaving that demon drive to my new one..
Almost crashed my new hard drive before even booting
despite the fact that it was set as a secondary drive, and i explicitly told the system NOT to boot from it
Instead of sending it back to HP, I should de-gauss it XD
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Good god, I tried slaving that demon drive to my new one..
Almost crashed my new hard drive before even booting
despite the fact that it was set as a secondary drive, and i explicitly told the system NOT to boot from it
Instead of sending it back to HP, I should de-gauss it XD
did u make sure to set the new HDD as the default HDD for booting your HDD in your bios if not it can cause some troubles and it could be trying to load it off the old HDD which would then probably mimic your previous issues, also i will suggest going out and spending 20 or 30 dollars on a external enclosure to make your internal HDD external as that will allow you to only load the drive once everything is running and will be a fairly idiot proof way to attempt to get information off of it
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I checked, rechecked, and triple checked all connections and the BIOS (paranoia come sin handy sometimes)
Manually went to boot menu
Absolutely doesn't work.
Gonna borrow an external enclosure soon.
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That reminds me of something... it's occurred to me that none of my Macs or Linux boxes have ever run a disk check/repair utility on their own accord, and short of one HD hardware failure, none have given me trouble.
Are ext2, ext3, and HFS+ less prone to data damage than FAT16/32 and NTFS or something?
Are you joking, or using some linux build I've never seen?
I've used a variety of builds - and each one would know if the system were improperly handled and would check the disks automatically on the next boot.
But, hell - it's an industry wide known fact that Winblows ... it's prone to the microkernel driver files and shit dying all over the place. The OS vitals in Linux are stored in the macrokernel - which is by its nature less prone to damage than Windows components.
There's your answer right there. ( Windows = 1,000,000 files to the kernel { I'm exaggerating a little ;) }. Linux = 1. Where's there more room for problems? )
I've played with Ubuntu, Mandrake, Yellow Dog Linux, and Fedora over the years, and none of them did a disk check with fsck or anything else after being forcibly shut down (holding down power button, or pulling the plug). Maybe it's doing a check but not showing any output and doing the check really stinkin' fast, I don't know.
Yeah ... during that boot where there's all that crap flying across the screen - you'd see it in there somewhere. :P
Try installing a big build in a really trashy comp. You'll see the disk check (lol).
I checked, rechecked, and triple checked all connections and the BIOS (paranoia come sin handy sometimes)
Manually went to boot menu
Absolutely doesn't work.
Gonna borrow an external enclosure soon.
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Man, I wish you were nearby.
I'd say gimme that comp for a night and it'll be working tomorrow. :(
O well ... it's not a perfect world. I tell you one thing though, make sure you give them the BLANK drive if you send it out for repair. Whatever's on that drive will be killed.
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Thanks for the concern, but I already got a spare from HP. At least my music was backed up, just gotta get my anime back.
As for the external enclosure for the demon drive, tried it, and failed. Computer recognizes it, but apparently its corrupt.
So, for fun, I opened it up (the drive), and lo and behold
There were 2 big scratches and a few small scratches on the Disk itself.
And somehow, the read needle or whatever is all messed up. Slightly bent and the tip looks a little broken (jagged)
In otherwords, epic phailzed
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Thanks for the concern, but I already got a spare from HP. At least my music was backed up, just gotta get my anime back.
As for the external enclosure for the demon drive, tried it, and failed. Computer recognizes it, but apparently its corrupt.
So, for fun, I opened it up (the drive), and lo and behold
There were 2 big scratches and a few small scratches on the Disk itself.
And somehow, the read needle or whatever is all messed up. Slightly bent and the tip looks a little broken (jagged)
In otherwords, epic phailzed
Interesting.
You didn't happen to see a dent in the shape of a boot or a sledgehammer in the side of your case.... ;)
[ That drive is totaled now. Get a torx driver - rip the discs out and hang em on your wall. ]
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Lol no boot or sledgehammer...
Anyway, I just chucked the thing back in a box, and shipped it back to HP
what a shame, it was a seagate too. Now I got some western digital..
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Not really related to computer...
I had a little gray bag full of DS games (about 17?), with R4 adapters, multi card reader.
I fucking lost it. i want to say at least I have my R4 and 2G chip with good games on it and haven't lost my DS lite, but..... the fucking games!!! THE FUCKING GAMESSSSSS OMG FUCKRAGE
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Are you joking, or using some linux build I've never seen?
I've used a variety of builds - and each one would know if the system were improperly handled and would check the disks automatically on the next boot.
But, hell - it's an industry wide known fact that Winblows ... it's prone to the microkernel driver files and shit dying all over the place. The OS vitals in Linux are stored in the macrokernel - which is by its nature less prone to damage than Windows components.
There's your answer right there. ( Windows = 1,000,000 files to the kernel { I'm exaggerating a little ;) }. Linux = 1. Where's there more room for problems? )
I think the idea that windows is easier to break is a misconception... because I know if I gave a linux box to my mom, she would break that faster than any windows system. Plus, the kernal of windows vista is much smaller than you think. What you are talking about are the parts that give you actual capabilties, the ones crashing being the crap software loaded on every prebuilt computer and the million software developers who make broken software that only half worked to begin with. To immidiately bash Windows doesnt make sence. I see alot of it, and why not, everyone follows the trend no matter what. If AOL ever started offering an awsome service, would you ever sign up for it? hehe, you'd have conflicting thoughts at least.
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Sometimes... ugh...
My torrentclient started to behave strangely (it wouldn't let me open directly in client)... Old faithful utorrent 1.6.1....
So I rebooted... (Win XP)
...And suddenly it would not let me even access it
...so restore..
Then it starts complainig about a trojan, win.ban-something.
So I clean it out and get the .exe from a backup and try to install it anew ...again, the same trojan...
So download it anew ...again trojan?
After a couple more of reboots and scans(F-Secure) and safemode, and attempts to create an exception, I finally give in and try 1.8 to see if that works... It does...
Rest in piece, old 1.6.1, we had so many fun times together :'(...
If someone knows what the heck happened, please do tell...
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Try tinkering with the computer - disassemble, assemble. If it doesn't help, use another PC - plug your HDD to another PC and transfer or backup those files. If the HDD works, then your fine. If not, try another PC. If it still doesn't heed your command, probably a HDD malfunction - you need a data recovery service.
IMO, the files are safe, probably just hardware or software error, although there is a chance it could be a HDD malfunction.
In any case, good luck with your files :)
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if things like that happens to me *sigh*......there's nothing like a wooden baseball can't fix
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Sometimes... ugh...
My torrentclient started to behave strangely (it wouldn't let me open directly in client)... Old faithful utorrent 1.6.1....
So I rebooted... (Win XP)
...And suddenly it would not let me even access it
...so restore..
Then it starts complainig about a trojan, win.ban-something.
So I clean it out and get the .exe from a backup and try to install it anew ...again, the same trojan...
So download it anew ...again trojan?
After a couple more of reboots and scans(F-Secure) and safemode, and attempts to create an exception, I finally give in and try 1.8 to see if that works... It does...
Rest in piece, old 1.6.1, we had so many fun times together :'(...
If someone knows what the heck happened, please do tell...
no clue what happened but you can find a wonderful trojan free DL of older utorrent client and other bit torrent clients at oldversion.com (i personally love this damn site)
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Hmmm I see.
I honestly considering buying one or those 200 dollar desktops that are "low end" or "refurbished" just so I can slam some HDDs in there and use it for storage. It would help reduce the strain I put on my current comp.............. the dell laptop. >_>
That's pretty much how I'm setup, I don't keep much on my laptop, my files are stored on USB drives connected to an old PC, if Windows craps out on it I just fix it and lose nothing since they aren't on the internal drive.