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Discussion Forums => General Discussions => Technology => Topic started by: Tatsujin on March 04, 2009, 07:29:24 PM
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Something that can handle copying and moving files around, a program that is.
For the record, SuperCopier sucks ass and so does Tera-whatever. They're ridiculous and don't run very well.
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Windows is S L O W at copying. Just get a Mac or even Linux and watch how much faster copying is. ;D
If you have to copy a group of files more than once, make sure you zip them up as what takes Windows so long is the fact that it likes to take a break in between files, so having one file makes it faster.
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Yeah... I get around 12-20MBits (I think) with linux. Windows... I get 6-7 MBits
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Yeah, looking at what the others are saying, it might be best to find a Linux LiveCD/DVD that has network and NTFS support and copy your files masses with that.
I wonder why Windows is so slow at copying... you'd think that wouldn't be the case, considering how long it's been around...
EDIT: If you're just talking moving around and copying much smaller numbers of files more often, I have no suggestions.
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Yeah... I get around 12-20MBits (I think) with linux. Windows... I get 6-7 MBits
I copy at 20+ MB for the USB drivers, my SATA would rate from 60 to 80 MB. My thing is, I want a program that I could just add stuff to it so it can copy to other directories and partitions without the need of like "oh, i wanted to copy that over there, now i gotta wait cu'z i'm copying this" crap. SuperCopier does it perfect, but the problem with this stupid program is that it FREAKING DISAPPEARS after a while on my taskbar.
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So you're looking for what's basically a copy queue program?
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So you're looking for what's basically a copy queue program?
Yes! Thank you for clarifying my .... crappy wordings, or something.
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Oh......... queuing up your copies? Why do you need that for?
And by the way. I too can hit a transfer rate above 50MBps on Windows Vista. But if you're moving a thousand small little files, then er...........
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what are you people are using? I get 60 to 90MB/s file transfer and I get about 40MB/s over the network.
Plus if you are transfering small files your speed will be less. Also windows vista cant calculate your speed very well. There is a update that fixes that. So if it says you are getting 9MB/s its wrong. Look at the size of the file and see how much data is really being transfered
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what are you people are using? I get 60 to 90MB/s file transfer and I get about 40MB/s over the network.
Plus if you are transfering small files your speed will be less. Also windows vista cant calculate your speed very well. There is a update that fixes that. So if it says you are getting 9MB/s its wrong. Look at the size of the file and see how much data is really being transfered
Yup.
Well, I've searched for some programs. I'm out of luck for now.
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For copy-queueing, TeraCopy is pretty decent (could be what you're referring to in 1st post), too bad the free version is kinda limited in what it can do.
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For copy-queueing, TeraCopy is pretty decent (could be what you're referring to in 1st post), too bad the free version is kinda limited in what it can do.
And it never started on my computer, after uninstalling and re-installing it couple of times. How odd .....
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what are you people are using? I get 60 to 90MB/s file transfer and I get about 40MB/s over the network.
Plus if you are transfering small files your speed will be less. Also windows vista cant calculate your speed very well. There is a update that fixes that. So if it says you are getting 9MB/s its wrong. Look at the size of the file and see how much data is really being transfered
You with your ubercomputer. You don't count. :)
But - I'll brag about my network infrastructure here. I get such sweet speeds over my full duplex gigabit (3Com officeconnect switch, snapgear router) & Intel Pro NICs - I don't even bother to measure. It's nearly as fast as drive access.
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For copy-queueing, TeraCopy is pretty decent (could be what you're referring to in 1st post), too bad the free version is kinda limited in what it can do.
And it never started on my computer, after uninstalling and re-installing it couple of times. How odd .....
Hmm, odd indeed... it worked fine on mine. Decent transfer speeds too, and nice post-transfer CRC-checking feature.
I get 20-25MB/s read, 10-15MB/s write... limited by my NAS.
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For copy-queueing, TeraCopy is pretty decent (could be what you're referring to in 1st post), too bad the free version is kinda limited in what it can do.
And it never started on my computer, after uninstalling and re-installing it couple of times. How odd .....
Hmm, odd indeed... it worked fine on mine. Decent transfer speeds too, and nice post-transfer CRC-checking feature.
I get 20-25MB/s read, 10-15MB/s write... limited by my NAS.
You don't want to know ... you don't. ;/ I had a tough, horrible time with it.
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what are you people are using? I get 60 to 90MB/s file transfer and I get about 40MB/s over the network.
Plus if you are transfering small files your speed will be less. Also windows vista cant calculate your speed very well. There is a update that fixes that. So if it says you are getting 9MB/s its wrong. Look at the size of the file and see how much data is really being transfered
Where is this update? I have looks all over and would like more info on it please.
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Well... not all of us are running 7200 RPM and higher HDDs... that might be an issue. Also, USB ports crap out over time, lowering the overall speed. (Should I also add lower ram and 32 Bit OS?)
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Well I think it has something to do with NTFS's fundamental structure. It has ACLs, EFS and compression it needs to handle. Also I suspect that the 'padding' that NTFS does may very contribute to the factor of getting a very slow transfer rate in Windows.
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after doing some digging, i was able to fix it myself, and now get 60+MB per second copy speeds from drive to drive. I might note tho, that i am using 2 7200 rpm sata2 3Gbps western digital laptop drives(both on 3Gbps connections), with windows vista ultimate 64 bit, so that may be a contributing factor.
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Nothing is better than the good'ol CLI file manipulation tools :)
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Using Windows 7.
When I got my new hard drive I started moving gigs of small files over and it was transferring at only 6 MB/s. I thought, What the Hell! Then I remembered, I just installed the drive and I bet Windows turned indexing on that drive by default (even though I've turned off that service long ago). Checked, and sure enough, it was on. Turned it off for that drive and had to wait awhile to do it's thing to all those files I just transferred. And it now transfers at the rate my drives are capable of, over 80 MB/s.
Here's a snapshot of my Western Digital Caviar Black drives in action (moving files with no raid):
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5821/movefileswindows.jpg
So if have slow transfer rates with Windows, check to make sure you have windows indexing turned off on every drive.
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Using Windows 7.
When I got my new hard drive I started moving gigs of small files over and it was transferring at only 6 MB/s. I thought, What the Hell! Then I remembered, I just installed the drive and I bet Windows turned indexing on that drive by default (even though I've turned off that service long ago). Checked, and sure enough, it was on. Turned it off for that drive and had to wait awhile to do it's thing to all those files I just transferred. And it now transfers at the rate my drives are capable of, over 80 MB/s.
Here's a snapshot of my Western Digital Caviar Black drives in action (moving files with no raid):
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5821/movefileswindows.jpg
So if have slow transfer rates with Windows, check to make sure you have windows indexing turned off on every drive.
It really gave that much of a boost?! Wow!
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Unless you use the search often everyday, turn it off. One can say with everyday files, it's unnoticeable. But when moving gigs of small files to another drive, it doesn't seem to be able to store the info in ram for writing the index later. So it ends up updating it's index, at the same time as it's writing the files, and also tagging each file being moved as indexed. I suspect a lot of head thrashing. So even the speedy Caviar Black drives gets forced to a crawl.
btw, that snapshot speed was one of the better ones, but also wasn't transferring thousands of small files which would have been slower. Usually from 54 MB/s to 80 MB/s. Still much better than 6 MB/s :)
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Unless you use the search often everyday, turn it off. One can say with everyday files, it's unnoticeable. But when moving gigs of small files to another drive, it doesn't seem to be able to store the info in ram for writing the index later. So it ends up updating it's index, at the same time as it's writing the files, and also tagging each file being moved as indexed. I suspect a lot of head thrashing. So even the speedy Caviar Black drives gets forced to a crawl.
btw, that snapshot speed was one of the better ones, but also wasn't transferring thousands of small files which would have been slower. Usually from 54 MB/s to 80 MB/s. Still much better than 6 MB/s :)
This is why I got 12 gigs of ram (^^)
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Even with excessive ram, still will be slower with it on. Plus I moved a download directory which was more than 12 gigs. CS4 was 8.22 gigs alone ;)
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I run linux so for me I don't have to worry about it. But I'm often working on my friends computers, so it would be great to know a way to speed theirs up.
Thanks for the tip ;D
@Naru
12GB RAM! Wow! You running a big DB server or something?
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I run linux so for me I don't have to worry about it. But I'm often working on my friends computers, so it would be great to know a way to speed theirs up.
Thanks for the tip ;D
@Naru
12GB RAM! Wow! You running a big DB server or something?
nope the ram was cheap
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Didn't you have a Yoko Avatar awhile ago?
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Didn't you have a Yoko Avatar awhile ago?
yes..I changed it