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Title: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: Nikaido on August 11, 2010, 11:12:36 PM
So, I found out that in Texas (the state I currently reside) the democrat representatives have decided to push for all legislatures to vote for the legalization for medical marijuana.
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This is good news for me, since I said in the "Do You Smoke" topic that I regularly use marijuana for medical use. Hopefully soon, I will no longer have to be afraid of being arrested for using a medication that actually works for my Crohn's Disease.
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Uh oh, I think I should have posted this in the Politics sub-forum.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: morrefule on August 12, 2010, 02:09:49 AM
Yes this should be moved to politics, I'm sure a mod will come alone hopefully and move it.

But honestly, as conservative as i am, I don't give a crap about weed.  Personally i don't see it any worse that cigerettes or liquor.  You can abuse any substance and make it bad, but I know many people who use it responsibly and it has no effect on thier daily lives.

I say legalize it, tax it, and be done with it.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: jaybug on August 12, 2010, 03:54:25 AM
DUDE! lol

WE have it here in Oregon. It doesn't seem to be doing much one way or the other as far as anything newsworthy. I had a neighbor who just moved away, was a legal grower. He had a lot of other problems, and warrants for his arrest, etc. But at least the family seemed to have gotten off of meth!

Did you read about the grow operation the city of Oakland, California is trying to build? Check that out. Factory medical marijuana. Local growers are up in arms about it though. Gonna Wal-Mart pot they say.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: Nikaido on August 12, 2010, 04:42:57 AM
Well if you ask me, it needs to be regulated by the FDA like any other pharmaceutical. Although I do think you should be allowed to grow it yourself if you have the proper permits.

Well I wrote a letter to my district representative tonight who is democrat. I posted the full thing.
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Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: jaybug on August 12, 2010, 05:31:15 AM
I'm sorry you have to go through so much.

I only wonder if your very graphic description will be a help, or not.

I had a roommate who had become partly "allergic" to himself. He lost all his body hair. It took a while to get used to seeing a man with no eye brows.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: vicious796 on August 13, 2010, 02:17:07 PM
I've long been in favor of legalizing pot and prostitution and taxing the ever loving shit out of it. Deficit? What deficit?
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: 1000mAh on August 13, 2010, 02:48:13 PM
darn, I would love it if they would allow that stuff in Finland...  :'(
Be happy...
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: Semnae on August 13, 2010, 06:54:38 PM
Just in case you forgot, Texas is a Republican state.  There's no way in hell anything the Dems support will pass.

Just to put in my two cents, I'm all for legalizing marijuana... then taxing it heavily.  The government should promote healthy behaviors in people, but not make the choices for them.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: AceHigh on August 13, 2010, 07:15:34 PM
Just to put in my two cents, I'm all for legalizing marijuana... then taxing it heavily.  The government should promote healthy behaviors in people, but not make the choices for them.

Wait what? You are saying it is wrong for the government to take away individual choice, but social engineering is ok?

If anything I will never ever support taxes that are based on social engineering. If you want to tax the stuff, tax it as a commodity, not to promote some behaviour.

Everyone pays taxes to maintain the infrastructure of a society, taxes that are based on social engineering are just fines because you dare to take your own decisions and not be a grey mass of the population like the government wants you to be.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: relic2279 on August 14, 2010, 06:19:00 PM
taxes that are based on social engineering are just fines because you dare to take your own decisions and not be a grey mass of the population like the government wants you to be.

All of our vices in America are heavily taxed. Cigarettes are near $10 a pack in NYC and they cost roughly .25c a pack to make. It's almost a 10,000% markup and it's nearly all tax. Same with alcohol. Though, it's not taxed as much as cigarettes. But it's still heavily taxed. Gambling is also heavily taxed. If you win the lottery jackpot of $100 million, you would take home less than half of that after taxes.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: Nikaido on August 14, 2010, 06:31:22 PM
Just in case you forgot, Texas is a Republican state.  There's no way in hell anything the Dems support will pass.
There's republican officials here in Texas that are for it. Like Congressman Ron Paul (14th district). They'd be stupid not to go for it, since taxing it would make a shit load of money. Especially since school districts have fired up to 200+ teachers (per district) because of the lack of funds.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: Semnae on August 14, 2010, 06:37:26 PM
Just to put in my two cents, I'm all for legalizing marijuana... then taxing it heavily.  The government should promote healthy behaviors in people, but not make the choices for them.

Wait what? You are saying it is wrong for the government to take away individual choice, but social engineering is ok?

If anything I will never ever support taxes that are based on social engineering. If you want to tax the stuff, tax it as a commodity, not to promote some behaviour.

Everyone pays taxes to maintain the infrastructure of a society, taxes that are based on social engineering are just fines because you dare to take your own decisions and not be a grey mass of the population like the government wants you to be.

I am surprised by your reaction.  How is sin taxing, or "social engineering" as you put it, worse than the government taking away individual choice?
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: jaybug on August 16, 2010, 12:48:39 AM
Hey Ace, don't think of some taxes as social engineering, think of them as incentives to do the right thing. Like tax deductions for home mortgages, or credits for giving to charity. I doubt I would give anywhere near as much to charity, or maybe even buy a home, were it not for the social engineering taxes. I certainly wouldn't be donating all my old stuff to charity. It would be thrown away.

But there are many examples of it not going right. Like the big tax write-off for buying a big honkin' SUV. Or buying a "hobby farm" and not doing any farming, but still getting the deduction.

But this is for the US only. I can't speak to foreign nations. Especially those that seem to have more taxes than we do.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: Louise on August 16, 2010, 12:56:47 AM
Can we all agree on something, the government is trying to find ways to make money out of everything. from trying to pass the legalization of online gambling, making stupid collectors coins, etc. I'm all for Medical Marijuana if its helpful honestly.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: 1000mAh on August 16, 2010, 05:59:07 AM
Can we all agree on something, the government is trying to find ways to make money out of everything. from trying to pass the legalization of online gambling, making stupid collectors coins, etc. I'm all for Medical Marijuana if its helpful honestly.

watch Pen & Teller Bullshit - 2-04 - War on Drugs and you will get your awnser.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: jaybug on August 21, 2010, 02:44:26 PM
I just got the discs from Netflix, and have started watching. Haven't gotten to War on Drugs yet. Just PETA, and Safety Hysteria so far. I feel relic's obsession with regulation would fall under Safety Hysteria. You can never be too safe, or too regulated.

You can never be too thin or too rich either.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: Soryon on August 21, 2010, 02:59:20 PM
sorry, TL:DR the other posts, but I wanted to say, Madison, WI recently decriminalized pot to the point where its like j-walking.
I wish they woulda done that while I was going to college out there.
Title: Re: Medical Marijuana may have a future in Texas!
Post by: jaybug on August 22, 2010, 06:36:32 AM
Welcome to Oregon of the 1970s, ya cheesehead dude.

WE've got another ballot measure over medical pot this November. I haven't seen the measure yet, so I don't have an opinion.