I'm guessing this is not a realist WWII tank simulation game, which I've been awaiting for a while now.
I'm guessing this is not a realist WWII tank simulation game, which I've been awaiting for a while now.
That's where your wrong! It is realistic to the degree that your tank crews get experience through battle and what not. It's realistic to the physics, destructible everything in the maps, heavy tanks are obviously a lot slower than light tanks, tank destroyers don't have 360 degree turrets, artillery is kinda like BF1942 Scout/Long range tank combo mechanics, and... and the coolest thing is that if a tank shell hits you in a certain spot, that spot shows the hole that shell made. Quite a realistic simulation with obvious arcade elements implemented.
I'm guessing this is not a realist WWII tank simulation game, which I've been awaiting for a while now.
That's where your wrong! It is realistic to the degree that your tank crews get experience through battle and what not. It's realistic to the physics, destructible everything in the maps, heavy tanks are obviously a lot slower than light tanks, tank destroyers don't have 360 degree turrets, artillery is kinda like BF1942 Scout/Long range tank combo mechanics, and... and the coolest thing is that if a tank shell hits you in a certain spot, that spot shows the hole that shell made. Quite a realistic simulation with obvious arcade elements implemented.
It's realistic to the point where my tiger I is only armed with a 7.5 cm KwK 42 L/70 instead of the actual armament of a 8.8 cm KwK 36 L/56?
I'm guessing this is not a realist WWII tank simulation game, which I've been awaiting for a while now.
Quite a realistic simulation with obvious arcade elements implemented.
Simulation. Unique models and vehicle characteristics, historically authentic in every minute detail to the actual tanks and prototypes of World War II, wrap you up in furious armored offensives that emulate the tank battles of the period.
I'm guessing this is not a realist WWII tank simulation game, which I've been awaiting for a while now.
No, it is indeed not.
And TMRNetShark, please don't label it is as a tank simulator. I have served in an armored battalion and it hurts seing how an arcade game is labeled as a "simulator".
The fact that tanks are upgradable does not add to realism, indeed in WW2 it was rarelly the case. Tank models were upgraded, not so much the tanks themselves.
Here is a gameplay video of the so called "simulator":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9cexbcmlcM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9cexbcmlcM)
Because we all know that in real life tank commanders see their tanks from 3rd person view ::)
I have myself been looking for real tank simulators and the closest thing to it was actually Op Flashpoint, ArmA and ArmA 2 games. Here is a video of what a tank simulator is supposed to be like (in multiplayer too, epic!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4rCd8wDhmg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4rCd8wDhmg)
After all it takes 4 people to crew one tank (3 on Russian tanks). However no WW2 tank simulators as far as I know.
I'm guessing this is not a realist WWII tank simulation game, which I've been awaiting for a while now.
That's where your wrong! It is realistic to the degree that your tank crews get experience through battle and what not. It's realistic to the physics, destructible everything in the maps, heavy tanks are obviously a lot slower than light tanks, tank destroyers don't have 360 degree turrets, artillery is kinda like BF1942 Scout/Long range tank combo mechanics, and... and the coolest thing is that if a tank shell hits you in a certain spot, that spot shows the hole that shell made. Quite a realistic simulation with obvious arcade elements implemented.
It's realistic to the point where my tiger I is only armed with a 7.5 cm KwK 42 L/70 instead of the actual armament of a 8.8 cm KwK 36 L/56?
http://game.worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/germany/heavyTank/pzvi
It's an upgrade system. You can most definitely put an 8.8 cm KwK 36 L/56 gun on it... you can even go up to the 10.5 cm KwK 42 L/28.
QuoteQuite a realistic simulation with obvious arcade elements implemented.
It's a simulator in a sense that you get to control a vehicle of some kind (in this case, a tank), which becomes your platform to upgrade and modify to use in battle. The gameplay of it (third person view, auto reloading, etc... all the stuff that make it a game) is arcade... but the realism starts with the tank physics... how each tank is hit with different sized shells or are even rammed by bigger tanks... how a bigger tank would take more time to get up a hill than a light tank... how actual group tank tactics work in a match to defeat the other side... is all quite simulation like. Maybe simulation would be a wrong word (because... you know how people are strictly technical about everything ::)), but I guess I would call is a Tactical Arcade Tank MMO... or shorten into I don't give a flying hoot what you call the game or care about the realism of it, if you wanna come in here and troll about a game you don't even care about, then why even post in the first place?
Oh wait, look look! See the first link in the original post? Click it and see what it says quoted right here...QuoteSimulation. Unique models and vehicle characteristics, historically authentic in every minute detail to the actual tanks and prototypes of World War II, wrap you up in furious armored offensives that emulate the tank battles of the period.
Oh noes! They said simulation... maybe you should sue the Russians that made the game for calling it a Simulation. I mean, I agree with you, a simulation is just that, a complete simulation of whatever you are driving or embodying. Flight Simulator (the vast amounts of games that they've made) are almost all simulators. But think of it, this is an MMO game centered around upgrading and fighting with your tanks along comrades with team based tactics. The simulation isn't in the tanks themselves, but in the strategy used to win at tank warfare. You said you were in a tank battalion? Why would you not want to play a game that involves tactical thinking with the different type of machines that you and your squad have all built? Who cares if it's not exactly how someone would drive a tank, but judging by the videos, it looks really fun to play.
Or maybe I'm just talking to a wall when it comes to you, in which case... please don't ruin a thread because you don't like the game.
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Or maybe I'm just talking to a wall when it comes to you, in which case... please don't ruin a thread because you don't like the game.
EDIT: For anyone who wants to get in on a the Closed Beta... go here: http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/index.php/world_of_tanks
Got mine and I'm gonna start playing!
Clearly, no one wants to play this game here... oh well.
Do you know NOTHING about tank warfare? Charging straight into enemy lines will get you completely destroyed, even with superior numbers.The only exception is when Russians used their tanks to ram Tigers as that was more effective, than firing at them. Do you want a very short summary of NATO doctrine used in tank warfare today? Basically it is move to a position that covers as much as possible of the tank hull, find a target, shoot at it, pop smoke if needed and go at full speed at reverse and pick a new position. However as TMR said it is a game, and since it is not even a sim game, we can ignore real life strategy, the fact that tanks were not upgraded in that RPG style like in the game and just relax and have fun.
P.S. Here is the tank I want to use first!You want to use a Königstiger as a first tank? I bet they will make it so you don't have enough credits for it in the beginning, right? I myself will go for T-34 first, best tank in all history according to people who like to call themselves experts. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVg6gFmuRlE)
QuoteP.S. Here is the tank I want to use first!You want to use a Königstiger as a first tank? I bet they will make it so you don't have enough credits for it in the beginning, right? I myself will go for T-34 first, best tank in all history according to people who like to call themselves experts. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVg6gFmuRlE)
Is there any advantage to playing a Medium tank over a heavy? I'd like to drive the Panzerkampfwagen IV.
Sadly, I gotta run the flag up again and say that this is a game... real experts and all that cannot be really applied to a game....
Because tanks have heavy armor and artillery doesn't? However if you use light weapons on a heavy tank it will give no effect....
Besides I have only seen tanks one tier higher or lower than mine, so it shouldn't be imbalanced.
Something to bring up as a feedback in their game forum? I mean there is a reason why they let us play an unreleased game.
[/quotSomething to bring up as a feedback in their game forum? I mean there is a reason why they let us play an unreleased game.e]
Yeah, I'll put something up. I can't even get a side penetration.
Yeah, I'll put something up. I can't even get a side penetration.
Yeah, I'll put something up. I can't even get a side penetration.
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Hahahahha.. oh ok I'll stop. Some tanks are OP over other classes, which means I suggest you run away... fast. I've seen my light tank throw volley after volley at a medium tank... NOTHING... not even a scratch. I just think that if someone's crew is good enough and they've upgraded everything, that tank is like a level 85 Paladin... you won't scratch him. Then again, if you were in an SPG, you wouldn't have to worry about it (cause your gun can and will rip through anyone's armor).
I've got an fully upgraded Pz.IV with all upgrades except turret (it looks stupid).
I can't even penetrate an IS2 at 100m.
My problem is that I can't skip tanks so easily, so my shitty A-20 is put in a match with tigers, How the hell can I even survive a match, when there is like 1 tank and 1 SPG that I can take out? Also when i show up in those matches some people are annoyed that I am in such a useless tank.
Well, I didn't ask for it, I want to get at least a T34, not my fault that matchmaker decides that A-20 should be paired with tier 4 - 7 instead of something more reasonable like 2 - 5.
So now my situation is to lose all the time until I get my first medium soviet tank and my first heavy german tank.
I've got an fully upgraded Pz.IV with all upgrades except turret (it looks stupid).
I can't even penetrate an IS2 at 100m.
Heavy Tanks I believe can only be taken out by SPGs, Tank Destroyers, and other Heavy Tanks. Medium Tanks are only really meant to take out other Medium tanks, Light Tanks, and SPGs. I have never seen any other type of tank try and take on a Heavy except those three.
Good news, there will be no wipe when the game is entering open beta stage in a few days. :)
As discussed on WoT forum, "auto-aimers always complain about shots bouncing if IS". However Russian and German tanks are more or less balanced. Your panther will not have problem against other Russian medium tanks. It is the American tanks that at the moment are little more than cannon fodder. Here is an overview:
German tanks: best accuracy
American tanks: fastest rate of fire
Russian tanks: everything else.
Also, no matter what Russian tank it is, they are infamous for spontaneous combustion. It's so much easier to cause engine fire and ammo explosion on them.
Basically I am playing both Russian and German tanks, I don't think that any side is OP.
Ok just signed up for WoW as reading you guys experiences made it sound like it maybe fun.
It's like a tech forum that discusses both Win7 and OSX.
Everyone knows that it's the soviet tanks are overpowered, so if you want THE god of medium tanks in this game, go for T-54.
Too many people in my clan were utterly disappointed over panthers.
What are you driving?
What are you driving?
KV3 (soon it will be an IS)
KV with the DERP cannon (152mm 1K damage cannon that takes out tanks 3 tiers above it)
T-34-85 (one of the most awesome mediums in middle tiers. it's turret armour is better than the tier above it.)
Su-100 (soon I will have SU 152)
Su-8 artillery
Panzer 4 (fully upgraded)
Sherman (with the 105 mm cannon, deadly as fuck)
premium tank: Matilda.
After the hardwipe I will dash for heavy and medium soviet tanks and most likely German TD.
Is the Matilda premium any good, it doesn't seem any better than my Tier5 Panzer IV.
I hope they don't make shit up, because I don't really know how the high tier french tanks will work out. None of the french tanks were remotely capable of taking on the late war tank designs of any nation.
Is the Matilda premium any good, it doesn't seem any better than my Tier5 Panzer IV.
Like all premium tanks it's a money farmer. You won't need it in the beginning, but when you get a tier 8 tank, you will see that money making gets difficult. Well, I have never used more than 3000 credits to repair a Matilda, while making around 10k - 20k per battle.
As a tank, Matilda is surprisingly durable, never had a fire on it, it's armour can take a few hits and it's gun is very descent against the tanks of the same tier.
Pretty much all those tanks are useless.
I bought the medium package for the gold discount. Panzer 4/5 makes no sense at all. A panther hull with Panzer 4 turret. That is ridiculous if you take into account that to manufacture a hull for a tank takes much longer and is much more complicated than a turret. Why would you want to waste time and resources to make a panther hull, when you later will mount a weak turret on top of it?
Another reason for medium package is because we all know that tier 6 tanks are moneymakers. Thus tier 5 or 6 premium tanks are usually the best moneymakers in the game. Currently my matilda does wonders in that area.
I see they shelled you with automatic cannons there. Most of them bounced, right?
Heh, too bad you are on the NA server.
I see they shelled you with automatic cannons there. Most of them bounced, right?
Heh, too bad you are on the NA server.
Oh, just got the most beautiful screenshot!(click to show/hide)
My timing was so perfect that you see the team wounder's muzzle fire and hit effect on my tank. Right after I took that screenshot, I wrote in the channel: "Took a screenshot, enjoy your ban" ;D
Who cares for American mediums, it's the American heavies that are the beasts. I love my T-29 beyond any other tanks in the game (well, maybe except SU-100)
If you drive a T-29 and manage to somehow get your hull behind the cover, then you have little to fear, after all even Jagdtiger often bounces off my frontal turret armour.
Oh, did I mention that American tanks on average basis shoot faster than other nations?
"Look, here comes noob Hitler in a loltraktor..." and then I get shot by an invisible IS7 across the fucking map
If I will ever buy a premium, it will be a Matilda as that is the only premium tank that doesn't suck.
I know many people a complaining about lack of money, but the way I play the game, I always lack exp before money.
600K for the high tier tanks.
Finally got all upgrades on my T29 and got a rammer, a spall liner and a camo net.
Good to know it will all disappear in 4 days ;D
Yeah, Eu server, that is the reasons I didn't invite you to the platoon while playing. I wish they made a system like in Guild wars, where players could switch servers in-game in a blink of an eye.
Say hello to the loltraktor. Speaking of which, after testing all 3 tier 1 tanks, I found loltractor to be superior to all. a BREDA gun turns other tier 1 tanks into minced meat.
That means that you intend on advancing in German tree. Oh well, German TD and SPG are useful. Otherwise I see no point. (except Leopard of course, that one is invaluable)
Ok, I tried the Hotchkiss and it is pretty OP, especially if you are a top tank against loltraktors.
In other news our NA division won the Ural steel tournament in USA and will be going to Moscow for the finals.
Also the European division started up our own clan radio (http://www.clanaodradio.net/) with random music, announcements about WoT and fake game related commercials ;D
Been grinding a lot after the wipe so I am back in my beloved T29 (american heavy tank). I will probably get russian heavy tanks next, then maybe german ones. Also going for German and Russian TDs while still waiting for American TDs which might be OP (TD with a turret and has a speed of around 70kph)
For most people everything after King Tiger in a German tree is just a disappointment. I really hope you didn't sell you King Tiger in order to buy that VK45.
I am sure I said everything after KT is a disappointment. KT itself is the only good tank in German heavy tree in my opinion.
New tank trees announced:
German tree (http://statcdn.worldoftanks.eu/comeu_v2_110412_release/uploads/germany_tree_full%28eng%29.jpg)
Russian tree (http://statcdn.worldoftanks.eu/comeu_v2_110412_release/uploads/ussr__full%28eng%29.jpg)
US tree (http://statcdn.worldoftanks.eu/comeu_v2_110412_release/uploads/usa_tree_full%28eng%29.jpg)
And details on how they will handle this to players who already have tanks that are moved, etc...
http://game.worldoftanks.eu/news/full-tech-trees-revised-and-improved (http://game.worldoftanks.eu/news/full-tech-trees-revised-and-improved)
tomoya, how is the VK45 so far, still like it?
Heh, way to waste money on free exp conversion....
I would wait until the new tree comes out and research E-75 and E-100 instead of Maus.
Also you might consider getting a panther for an extra free tank and a free slot.
I've decided to get the Luchs>>Panther first, then go Down the mid tank line. Scouting is fun
Yeah, those American Mid tanks are shit. I haven't any German Mids yet and no heavies whatsoever. I did play with a friend's Russian heavy. was cool, but no where NEAR as cool as getting across the map at like 60 Kmph, turning at lightspeed etc etc
Same as my BBT name. I'm still learning the ropes and stuff, be gentle :-[
Also, British time zone. We'll probs never be on at the same time
Yeah, those American Mid tanks are shit. I haven't any German Mids yet and no heavies whatsoever. I did play with a friend's Russian heavy. was cool, but no where NEAR as cool as getting across the map at like 60 Kmph, turning at lightspeed etc etc
Yeah, those American Mid tanks are shit. I haven't any German Mids yet and no heavies whatsoever. I did play with a friend's Russian heavy. was cool, but no where NEAR as cool as getting across the map at like 60 Kmph, turning at lightspeed etc etc
Heh, one guy from the clan said that he keeps all his medium American tanks. According to him "why would I ever want to sell them? Those tanks are literally printing money!"
I must admit that T20 is a crafty bastard.
For pure scouting, I still recommend going with a Leopard, and don't forget to put spall liner on it. For mediums in German line, DB is awesome, but even Pz3/4 is ok for it's tier. When it comes to Russian mediums, you have to grind through shitty mediums until you reach T-54. T-43 is especially annoying, as turning almost brings the tank to a halt.
Ok, bought the Luchs. Holy shit this is fast!
Really? The leo is next tier so I'd imagine it to be really good...
It trades off some speed and some acceleration for a much better armour protection. In higher tier battles, Leo has a higher chance of survival.
Playing this now and then. It's actually quite fun. Lately I have fallen in love with the auto-loaders, so started getting the new american auto-loader tanks. Currently working on getting to many tanks at once I believe, lorraine 40t, T-30, T-92, Conquerer and T-69 :p Usually it's the money I lack, so I am forced to play my T34 (I do like it, so don't mind all that much). If someone checks my stats, they'll see that I do like scouting, 14% of my games are played on my ELC =)
I feel a bit sorry for you Bob2004, churchills are so freaking slow, even though the I can atleast go ~25km/h, but the VII and black prince only got a max speed of 20, which is painful. Black Prince was quite fun with gold ammo though, as the penetratrion on the brittish tanks aren't all that good until tier 8 imo.
E-50(m) are both great sniping tanks, but it do quite well in close combat also if they successfully flank someone. I put getting my E-50 on hold for now though, ~3million is a bit much to pay, same with my E-100.
Here is a thing about Churchills and all other tanks in the game that have high armour/underpowered gun combo: They rule when being top tanks and are utterly useless if tiers above it are present.
And I finally got Ace Tanker on my E50M. You can see how in this replay:
http://wikisend.com/download/143262/20130118_2219_germany-E50_Ausf_M_29_el_hallouf.wotreplay
I must admit it was a bit embarrassing that I didn't have one until now on my favourite tank. It took me 43 games too. Well, now I have it at least and I killed a Maus in the process.
This is my profile page. (http://worldoftanks-sea.com/community/accounts/2001948648-N2ONight/)
Wow Ace, I have a better survivability than you. XDAnd that's pretty much the only stat you are better at than me :P
I'd like to try that test server, but I'll pass. No progress from it will carry over to my account from what I've read.
The tips you guys offered helped a bit, and I did some reading on the game. Turns out I really should avoid fighting medium and heavy tanks. Now I feel a bit silly for all the times I stopped to open fire at heavies...
And I just got the Grille today. I have mixed feelings for it. The range seems longer than the last SPG, but now I only have 20 shots. It's time I start aiming more carefully, maybe less guess shots as well.
I am now 1 month old in the game, and I've had 1K battles now. So far, so good. I am enjoying this game.
If I understand my profile correctly, capturing bases is what I do best. I sometimes wonder if capturing bases is better than destroying all enemy units. I remember reading that capturing gives more points. However, a lot of players I've seen often ignore an empty, unguarded base...
Meanwhile, I'm close to getting the Chaffee. As far as I've read, it's great at scouting and sniping, but it will face high-level tanks every time...
Heh, let me tell you how it went so far. So OMNI invites me to a tank company. We drive about 7 battles and lost only the first one of them. Her is one example of how very simple tactic won us the game because of focus fire and formation (we went as a tank line), replay linked here (http://wikisend.com/download/264060/20130422_2217_ussr-IS-3_11_murovanka.wotreplay).
Great battles, I thought. Then one higher ranked player tells me that he is sorry he didn't have time to properly test me, so he will do it the next day. After all, I was playing in a tank company with OMNI recruits and fresh soldiers. Holy shit, I wander how their veterans play then.
So I guess I will find out today later when I come back home from work.
I have IS7, IS4, T62A, E50M and E110E5.
Played in a platoon today, didn't get properly tested because they were busy with a tournament. Anyway it seems that tier 8 are much more important to them, than tier 10 tanks, since they use them in ESL tournaments. So I was told to get at least 2 of the following tanks: IS3 (got it), T32, AMX50 100, AMX 13 90, GWPanther and Lorraine 155.
I love how the website has been down for a week now.
I love how the website has been down for a week now.
What server do you play on? I use both the EU and US sites, and haven't noticed any problems at all.
So I just bought two new tanks: The VK30.01P, taking advantage of the discount, and then, realising I had enough experience and money left over, I got the AT 2 as well. I've only played a couple of battles with each so far, but I already quite like the VK - it's fast, has decent armour, and a decent gun (which surprised me a bit, since it's the 75cm KwK 40 I was using on the PzIV. I didn't expect it to still be so effective at higher tiers). Having the front-mounted turret is nice, too - I was able to hold my own against a pair of Tiger Ps by making use of cover and the ridiculously thick gun mantle.
Not such a fan of the AT 2 though. It is so unbelievably slow - top speed 20km/h, and it never even manages to get that high. Combined with the poor view range, I basically have to pick a course right at the start of the battle and stick with it - because it's too slow to change it once I've travelled any distance - and hope that my team mates support me, because I'm totally blind otherwise. But relying on your team mates in random battles feels kind of like playing Russian roulette. =/ The thick armour is very nice though, on those occasions when I actually manage to get close enough to the enemy for them to shoot at me. It actually seems to have thicker front hull armour than the Maus, amusingly.
I might not progress much farther with the British TDs, since they all look to be in a similar kind of mould to this one. All that said though, I hated the Matilda at first because it was so horribly slow, and it's now one of my favourite tanks. So who knows, I might grow to love it yet, once I get used to it.
So I just bought two new tanks: The VK30.01P, taking advantage of the discount, and then, realising I had enough experience and money left over, I got the AT 2 as well. I've only played a couple of battles with each so far, but I already quite like the VK - it's fast, has decent armour, and a decent gun (which surprised me a bit, since it's the 75cm KwK 40 I was using on the PzIV. I didn't expect it to still be so effective at higher tiers). Having the front-mounted turret is nice, too - I was able to hold my own against a pair of Tiger Ps by making use of cover and the ridiculously thick gun mantle.
Not such a fan of the AT 2 though. It is so unbelievably slow - top speed 20km/h, and it never even manages to get that high. Combined with the poor view range, I basically have to pick a course right at the start of the battle and stick with it - because it's too slow to change it once I've travelled any distance - and hope that my team mates support me, because I'm totally blind otherwise. But relying on your team mates in random battles feels kind of like playing Russian roulette. =/ The thick armour is very nice though, on those occasions when I actually manage to get close enough to the enemy for them to shoot at me. It actually seems to have thicker front hull armour than the Maus, amusingly.
I might not progress much farther with the British TDs, since they all look to be in a similar kind of mould to this one. All that said though, I hated the Matilda at first because it was so horribly slow, and it's now one of my favourite tanks. So who knows, I might grow to love it yet, once I get used to it.
After a while playing with both, and having been able to upgrade the gun on the AT2, my opinion has completely reversed. The AT2 is actually fucking awesome, whereas the VK is a bit crap (though it might become decent once I've managed to scrape together the 15-20K experience needed to upgrade the engine, turret, suspension, and gun). The armour is actually not all that thick, and the gun is actually not quite as effective as it first seemed. And the acceleration is terrible, so although the top speed is high, it takes ages to reach it. It's such a huge tank too, it's a really big target. So it's really annoying to play.
The AT2's crap speed is still hugely annoying, but now I've discovered the wonders of the 3.7inch howitzer and its HE shells, it's become a million times more effective. I can frequently do several hundred points of damage in a single shot, if I get lucky, which makes it much easier to defend myself if needed.
It's still too dependent on your team mates though, and really vulnerable to flanking. It turns so slowly that if an opposing tank gets close enough, they can easily avoid your gun, because you just can't turn fast enough to keep up with them. I died the other day at the hands of a panzer 4 who did that - he was the only enemy tank left, but my team mates decided to hang back and camp the base instead of helping, leaving me to die. :( It did take him about 6 hits at point-blank range to kill me though, which was gratifying.