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« Reply #1380 on: January 12, 2013, 02:20:37 PM »
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quite a horrible mess... you need to rewire that thing! >:(
Agree, rewire it especially if you have a modular power supply.


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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1381 on: January 12, 2013, 06:07:32 PM »

And here I thought my pc was a wire mess.  ;)

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1382 on: January 12, 2013, 06:33:37 PM »
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quite a horrible mess... you need to rewire that thing! >:(
Agree, rewire it especially if you have a modular power supply.
AX1200 is modular


edit: although now that i think about it, 1200watts is too overkill, even with a hexacore i7 and two GTX690 it would hardly reach 1200watts =(
its kind of irritating to see stuff thats too outside of purpose...
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1383 on: January 13, 2013, 05:17:12 AM »
Believe me, I tried. But sadly I'm no good at wire management :(

I have so many other connections that I use up almost all of the connectors on my PSU.

Also, that PSU is there to stay for a LONG time. 7 years of warranty is awesome. You do know that with age, PSUs tend to lose their power capacity right? Basically, this PSU is there to handle multiple configuration changes.

Also, there is no reason to buy a PSU that is just enough for a pair of 580s and a 560 Ti. I checked my power draw- it is almost 1000W according to my UPS. And I also overclock my system. The processor is an i7 960 clocked at 4.14Ghz.

 I did consult with a few friends before choosing this over an HX1050 :)
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1384 on: January 13, 2013, 06:02:06 AM »


Fuck yeah, panoramas!


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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1385 on: January 13, 2013, 06:32:27 AM »
I see your feet.

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1386 on: January 13, 2013, 06:44:42 AM »
PSUs tend to lose their power capacity right?

Also, there is no reason to buy a PSU that is just enough for a pair of 580s and a 560 Ti. I checked my power draw- it is almost 1000W according to my UPS. And I also overclock my system. The processor is an i7 960 clocked at 4.14Ghz.

 I did consult with a few friends before choosing this over an HX1050 :)
is there any proof for that though? now a days it rarely happens on real power supplies, well at least no one says their real powersupplies does so.

580s and a 560 Ti - ok now it made sense, its just about right, thats a triple card >,>

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1388 on: January 13, 2013, 03:53:26 PM »
PSUs tend to lose their power capacity right?

Also, there is no reason to buy a PSU that is just enough for a pair of 580s and a 560 Ti. I checked my power draw- it is almost 1000W according to my UPS. And I also overclock my system. The processor is an i7 960 clocked at 4.14Ghz.

 I did consult with a few friends before choosing this over an HX1050 :)
is there any proof for that though? now a days it rarely happens on real power supplies, well at least no one says their real powersupplies does so.

580s and a 560 Ti - ok now it made sense, its just about right, thats a triple card >,>

I don't have proof unfortunately. Last I remember, the UPS stated 972W. Note that I'm referring to wall draw and not system draw :) the math should be easy enough. But I cant take pictures now. I'd have to download Metro 2033, which I finished almost 1.5 years ago, again. Also, I ended up sending the UPS for warranty because of a faulty fan sensor. Even MSI kombustor did not reach those levels, probably because of the OCP that nvidia added to the Fermi line.

Nowadays I generally do not reach my peak power draw because the games I'm currently playing do not use so much power. Besides, my exams and anime are taking up too much of my time for games lol.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1389 on: January 13, 2013, 04:13:58 PM »
you lost me there, UPS meaning the one with a battery backup?



wall-draw can vary depending on load, you should've compared it with system-draw:wall-draw as a ratio from before vs after.

if the system-draw is the same while wall-draw dropped... well thats weird since your PSU suddenly became more efficient! thats a good thing by the way.

but if the system-draw dropped while wall-draw is the same, or system-draw is the same but wall-draw increased should mean that efficiency decreased.

as for powersupply max capacity declining, you can only monitor that if your PSU puts out a magic smoke when you near the declined capacity, or simply became unstable (BSOD or crash) when you near the declined capacity.
e.g. before PSU=1300watts, system-draw=1000watts. now PSU=900watts, system crashes at system-draw=901watts.



edit: this scenario is far from being common, if you ask about capacitor aging from an EE or ECE, capacitor aging only affects capacitance and ESR.

the former doesn't reach a value of zero, at worst they can only reach down to 50% for defective capacitors but on average they only drop down by 25% for quality-passed capacitors.  now only the consistency of the power output gets influenced by this capacity decline, meaning it's ripple values will increase.

the latter does affect the PSU's max capacity the most, if the ESR rises too much outside of it's given specs it may cause a decrease in overall ampere output.

now if the manufacturer designed the PSU with quality and durability in mind, they will factor in these issues on their design and shouldn't cause much problem.
one proof of this is that "most" quality PSUs does have a marginal overhead outside of their max rating, notice that 400watt rated PSUs can still run at 450watt, or even 500watt for loose OCP.

edit2: now seriously, why do people get concerned with this mythical "capacitor aging", i've yet to hear of corsair or seasonic dying because of such...
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1390 on: January 13, 2013, 06:40:29 PM »
Klakket that chair looks really uncomfortable for long periods of time.

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1391 on: January 13, 2013, 07:18:59 PM »


Yes, that is my bed. No, I don't have a chair. No, it's not very comfy. But it is nice being able to lie in bed when watching anime (although I always end up with a sore neck if I do it for too long).

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1392 on: January 13, 2013, 08:23:48 PM »
Is your room really small?

Also, what are those 3 books in the top left? They look purdy

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1393 on: January 13, 2013, 08:44:34 PM »
Is your room really small?

Also, what are those 3 books in the top left? They look purdy

My single bed is right up against the left hand wall, so the room is literally about the width of my bed + my desk, with a tiny bit of legroom in between. I took that photo standing with my back right up against the airing cupboard at the end of the room; there's a kind of diagonal corner just to my right leading to a sort of alcove bit where the door is. It's a bit of a weird shape, so it's quite hard to describe, but yeah, it's tiny.

As for the books, I'm not sure which ones you mean specifically, but the two with the red and green guy in a hood are apparently the Kingmaker, Kingbreaker series by Karen Miller (it's been years since I read them so I have no recollection whether or not they're good). The four books to their right are the Pellinor series by Alison Croggon, which is really, really good, and I highly recommend it. Then the three big books to their right are about SQL and programming in C - so totally uninteresting in every way :P

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1394 on: January 13, 2013, 09:20:10 PM »
It was the 4 books, I must have had a bit of a blonde moment. And I'm so glad I have space :P

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1395 on: January 13, 2013, 09:33:53 PM »
Wow Bob that makes MY room look big.

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1396 on: January 13, 2013, 09:51:19 PM »
Wow Bob that makes MY room look big.

Shit. And I think my room is smaller than metro's too.


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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1397 on: January 14, 2013, 02:02:42 AM »
Klakket that chair looks really uncomfortable for long periods of time.
It's the chair for my legs...

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1398 on: January 15, 2013, 02:40:38 AM »
you lost me there, UPS meaning the one with a battery backup?



wall-draw can vary depending on load, you should've compared it with system-draw:wall-draw as a ratio from before vs after.

if the system-draw is the same while wall-draw dropped... well thats weird since your PSU suddenly became more efficient! thats a good thing by the way.

but if the system-draw dropped while wall-draw is the same, or system-draw is the same but wall-draw increased should mean that efficiency decreased.

as for powersupply max capacity declining, you can only monitor that if your PSU puts out a magic smoke when you near the declined capacity, or simply became unstable (BSOD or crash) when you near the declined capacity.
e.g. before PSU=1300watts, system-draw=1000watts. now PSU=900watts, system crashes at system-draw=901watts.



edit: this scenario is far from being common, if you ask about capacitor aging from an EE or ECE, capacitor aging only affects capacitance and ESR.

the former doesn't reach a value of zero, at worst they can only reach down to 50% for defective capacitors but on average they only drop down by 25% for quality-passed capacitors.  now only the consistency of the power output gets influenced by this capacity decline, meaning it's ripple values will increase.

the latter does affect the PSU's max capacity the most, if the ESR rises too much outside of it's given specs it may cause a decrease in overall ampere output.

now if the manufacturer designed the PSU with quality and durability in mind, they will factor in these issues on their design and shouldn't cause much problem.
one proof of this is that "most" quality PSUs does have a marginal overhead outside of their max rating, notice that 400watt rated PSUs can still run at 450watt, or even 500watt for loose OCP.

edit2: now seriously, why do people get concerned with this mythical "capacitor aging", i've yet to hear of corsair or seasonic dying because of such...
Yeah UPS is the one with a battery backup.

When did I say the system draw remained constant when the wall draw dropped? I said I dont play games that require lots of power usually nowadays. So both my system draw and my wall draw dropped, because I dont reach my peak draw (i.e. 100% load on the system, which is usually around 1000W wall draw).
The PSU is 80 Plus gold rated so the efficiency is rated at 88-92% in all cases above 20% draw. So my system draw while playing system intensive games is ~910W. Note that this number goes even higher, as does my wall draw, when I run certain benchmarks, like FurMark.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #1399 on: January 15, 2013, 07:17:46 AM »
so what was your point? that you wasted your money on investing on a 1300watt psu?

if you missed my point, its that capacitor aging influencing max power output of a PSU is a myth on the realm of quality PSUs.

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