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Offline Proin Drakenzol

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #160 on: February 21, 2008, 09:00:14 PM »
I just installed 8 gigs of ram in my system yesterday
Damn, why so much? I only have 2gigs of ram and I thought that was a lot. :D
When in doubt, add more RAM.

unless you have a 32-bit operating system. then you can only go up to 3GB of RAM
It's actually around 3.9GB or so, it just depends on the hardware you have.

actually... with 32-bit addressing you can technically go up to 4GB, but the way 32-bit operating systems are written only 3GB is accessible.

64-bit addressing could theoretically handle up to 16 exabytes of RAM. and exabyte is 260, which is three orders of magnitude above gigabyte.

The linear nature of your Euclidean geometry both confounds and befuddles me.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #161 on: February 21, 2008, 09:00:37 PM »
Oooooooh, like the purple. Mine's green. ;D

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #162 on: February 22, 2008, 02:59:52 AM »
I just installed 8 gigs of ram in my system yesterday
Damn, why so much? I only have 2gigs of ram and I thought that was a lot. :D

for many reasons..(1) It was very cheap..only cost me $170. (2) Vista will use more ram instead of using PF (right now my PC isn't using PF so it speeds things up)

(3)http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/15/vista_workshop

Because Vista sees more ram it will use more ram..I use about 2 gigs of ram from boot up now

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #163 on: February 22, 2008, 03:41:27 AM »
I'm assuming you're not a PC gamer then. All you did was double your timings on the ram by using two channels, and odds are good if it was cheap RAM the timings were bad to begin with. :(

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #164 on: February 22, 2008, 03:45:42 AM »
I'm assuming you're not a PC gamer then. All you did was double your timings on the ram by using two channels, and odds are good if it was cheap RAM the timings were bad to begin with. :(

lol I tried to explain that to him in another thread. But because it's dual channel it has to be fast right...

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #165 on: February 22, 2008, 03:48:23 AM »
Well at least he can still pull two sticks and have four gigs, which is more than enough. That's assuming he cares, I guess.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #166 on: February 22, 2008, 04:14:43 AM »
I'm assuming you're not a PC gamer then. All you did was double your timings on the ram by using two channels, and odds are good if it was cheap RAM the timings were bad to begin with. :(

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231148

its not cheap ram


Also, When reserving memory, Windows Vista goes by the amount of RAM installed in the computer. Unlike previous versions, Vista will automatically use more memory for the system if there is more available. The result is that fewer files have to be written to the page file on the slow hard drive, giving the system a noticeable performance boost. Yes the timings will increase but those timings are still faster then a HDD.
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #167 on: February 22, 2008, 04:35:02 AM »
That stuff doesn't matter. You double your timings to 8-8-8-24 and your game is only using 2.5gb. Now what? You doubled your timings for nothing.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #168 on: February 22, 2008, 04:40:14 AM »
That stuff doesn't matter. You double your timings to 8-8-8-24 and your game is only using 2.5gb. Now what? You doubled your timings for nothing.

exactly how does it double..when one is refreshing the other ram is being use and vice versa

here is my current timing speeds
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #169 on: February 22, 2008, 07:10:11 AM »
That stuff doesn't matter. You double your timings to 8-8-8-24 and your game is only using 2.5gb. Now what? You doubled your timings for nothing.

exactly how does it double..when one is refreshing the other ram is being use and vice versa

here is my current timing speeds

ouch 400mhz
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #170 on: February 22, 2008, 11:04:29 AM »
That stuff doesn't matter. You double your timings to 8-8-8-24 and your game is only using 2.5gb. Now what? You doubled your timings for nothing.
Excuse me? I think you really need to read up on some things... Dual Channel does not double the timings, where'd you get that crazy idea?

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #171 on: February 22, 2008, 01:44:47 PM »
Well I was bored so started up several sytem info things and checked how warm my comp is in idle vs load.

Idle:
cpu: 35C whit cpu fan at 0 rpm(passive, it fires up short spurts time to time)
motherboard: 39C
gpu: 40
gpu board: 38C

Load:
cpu: 39C (I haven't seen it at 40C or above yet when cold outside, sure it goes above 40C in summers spinning at about 1000rpm (the fan can spin up to 2400rpm and such but there ain't a need))
motherboard: 42C
gpu: 58C (haven't seen it reach 60C yet whit the new 120mm fan mod)
gpu board: 47C

I like my memory timings  ;D

idle:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/Nighthog/Systemstats_idle.png
load:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/Nighthog/Systemstats_load.png

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #172 on: February 22, 2008, 02:25:07 PM »
That stuff doesn't matter. You double your timings to 8-8-8-24 and your game is only using 2.5gb. Now what? You doubled your timings for nothing.
Excuse me? I think you really need to read up on some things... Dual Channel does not double the timings, where'd you get that crazy idea?

I know..not sure where he got that idea

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #173 on: February 22, 2008, 06:40:57 PM »
That stuff doesn't matter. You double your timings to 8-8-8-24 and your game is only using 2.5gb. Now what? You doubled your timings for nothing.
Excuse me? I think you really need to read up on some things... Dual Channel does not double the timings, where'd you get that crazy idea?

I know..not sure where he got that idea

Me either anymore. I thought I read it somewhere on like tomshardware or something, but I can't find it now. Maybe I read it wrong and thought it said timings and it really said frequency, as you are running at 400MHz when it's supposed to be 800. Double check your BIOS for multiplier settings, I'd suggest. Make sure those are good. I'll keep looking, as apparently Lurch thought the same thing I did.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #174 on: February 22, 2008, 07:01:01 PM »
Vista doesn't decrease the upgrade shit if you upgrade ram does it? I was under the impression it would lose reinstall capabilities and stuff like that if you did things to the mobo, vid card and stuff like that.

Damn vista and it's weirdness to hardware!
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #175 on: February 22, 2008, 10:58:41 PM »
Vista doesn't decrease the upgrade shit if you upgrade ram does it? I was under the impression it would lose reinstall capabilities and stuff like that if you did things to the mobo, vid card and stuff like that.

Damn vista and it's weirdness to hardware!
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fails to understand vista > xp.... but people hate change
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #176 on: February 22, 2008, 11:02:51 PM »
Vista doesn't decrease the upgrade shit if you upgrade ram does it? I was under the impression it would lose reinstall capabilities and stuff like that if you did things to the mobo, vid card and stuff like that.

Damn vista and it's weirdness to hardware!
* fohfoh likes XP

fails to understand vista > xp.... but people hate change

Maybe Ultimate is good... but for sure, HomeP and Business ver SUCK. Not only was it slow (specs were kinda iffy though, but would have easily run XP) it wouldn't run my programs properly. I'm waiting for a bit before I go Vista.
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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #177 on: February 23, 2008, 07:00:59 AM »


Well here is mine lol its the worst setup i have seen yet oh well i will be building my self a new one soon i hope  :-\

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #178 on: February 23, 2008, 11:10:03 AM »
Me either anymore. I thought I read it somewhere on like tomshardware or something, but I can't find it now. Maybe I read it wrong and thought it said timings and it really said frequency, as you are running at 400MHz when it's supposed to be 800. Double check your BIOS for multiplier settings, I'd suggest. Make sure those are good. I'll keep looking, as apparently Lurch thought the same thing I did.
You're confusing things. The "800 MHz" is a so-called "effective frequency", a load of crap invented by sales people when DDR was being introduced to convince customers easily that DDR was better than SDR. The thinking behind it was: "frequency x 2 bytes transported in one clock cycle = double frequency", which is not exactly accurate, but is easily understood by the average John Smith.

However, most diagnostic programs, CPU-Z included, show the real frequency, not the effective one.

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Re: Computer Setup Pictures
« Reply #179 on: February 23, 2008, 02:25:26 PM »
Vista doesn't decrease the upgrade shit if you upgrade ram does it? I was under the impression it would lose reinstall capabilities and stuff like that if you did things to the mobo, vid card and stuff like that.

Damn vista and it's weirdness to hardware!
* fohfoh likes XP

fails to understand vista > xp.... but people hate change

Maybe Ultimate is good... but for sure, HomeP and Business ver SUCK. Not only was it slow (specs were kinda iffy though, but would have easily run XP) it wouldn't run my programs properly. I'm waiting for a bit before I go Vista.
vista ultimate fully activated torrent is much better than that windows xp with genuine vantage crap on every update...

people got some nice comp set ups... i wish i hads more cash to get my 2nd wide screen LCD
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