Author Topic: Found a ratio hacker/cheater? Report it here (Read 163646 times)

K7IA · « **Reply #440 on:** December 28, 2009, 07:40:27 PM »

^ staff might have more detailed information available to them while deciding whether a member is cheating or not and act on that information so reporting them here does not always result in a membership suspension. For all we know, such high ratios might have been attained with torrents that were swapped/deleted in the past and not visible in the members' profile anymore.

also, there is a BitTorrent client located in Europe (I won't disclose the IP here) that is specifically modified/written to connect to clients for any random torrent and determine whether they are providing the BakaBT tracker with correct statistical (seed/leech amount) data.

AceD · « **Reply #441 on:** December 29, 2009, 11:31:57 PM »

Quote from: endlessworld on December 28, 2009, 07:07:16 PM

Quote from: iladriel on December 28, 2009, 05:22:59 PM
I see that guspaz is disabled now, so there was something going on

what have you done!!

why dont we start banning people with good upload! i mean look at the upload on this guy
his upload is so high why don't we just ban him for that

and look at the top uploader for this torrent
hax?

hope it works xD

o....am hurt... :'(

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Harryy · « **Reply #442 on:** December 30, 2009, 11:29:57 PM »

Quote from: AceD on December 29, 2009, 11:31:57 PM

o....am hurt... :'(

You may wanna fuzz out your IP in that image, as you blanked it out in the VNC client too.. :/

Anyways, why have a GUI installed on a seedbox? UGUU~ Worthless! Use CLI clients, save CPU.

AceD · « **Reply #443 on:** December 30, 2009, 11:59:53 PM »

Quote from: Harryy on December 30, 2009, 11:29:57 PM

Quote from: AceD on December 29, 2009, 11:31:57 PM
o....am hurt... :'(

You may wanna fuzz out your IP in that image, as you blanked it out in the VNC client too.. :/

Anyways, why have a GUI installed on a seedbox? UGUU~ Worthless! Use CLI clients, save CPU.

Didn't even notice, well not like it matters much...and well, i just use transmission 1.7gtk (or rutorrent, got someone to install for me though!) because its easy to install, and its pretty good imo...am not huge on Linux like...

but as for CPU...its fine really

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edit, ye anyway...this is for cheating reports after all ¬¬

blud7 · « **Reply #444 on:** January 02, 2010, 03:31:07 PM »

Not sure if this belongs here but:
Ok so there is this guy downloading from me and uTorrent is reporting it as [FAKE]uTorrent/1.8.5.0... Any cause for alarm?

Duki3003 · « **Reply #445 on:** January 03, 2010, 01:21:25 AM »

There's a lot of these one guys hanging around here >_>
You'll have to be a bit more specific...

blud7 · « **Reply #446 on:** January 03, 2010, 01:09:03 PM »

i can be, but didn't want to post specific info unless it was a prob. I have screenshot from uTorrent window and that's it. It has something resembling an IP and an address. Post here or pm?

Oh wait, it's this same guy:
http://forums.bakabt.me/index.php?topic=22199.0

AceD · « **Reply #447 on:** January 03, 2010, 01:53:03 PM »

http://bakabt.me/user/929247/xifomahos.html

per · « **Reply #448 on:** January 03, 2010, 08:13:45 PM »

Quote from: houkouonchi on December 06, 2009, 07:03:37 AM

OC connections are a thing of the past. Most ISP's and other service providers just use gigabit ethernet over fiber (1 gige or 10 gige). My box that I seed off of has 4x100 meg connections which it can't saturate due to I/O. Torrenting is heavy on random I/O as doing sequential reads my box can actually do over 600-700 megabytes/sec (so 6-7 gigabits).

And even when you do have the connection, and cache the top-accessed 120Gb of data on a SSD,
you need to have someone to seed too.

I would say that anyone over 300Mbps is most likely cheating. I hardly ever reach more than 100Mbps,
only during the initial day or so when a popular torrent has been added.

AceD · « **Reply #449 on:** January 04, 2010, 02:33:16 PM »

Quote from: per on January 03, 2010, 08:13:45 PM

Quote from: houkouonchi on December 06, 2009, 07:03:37 AM
OC connections are a thing of the past. Most ISP's and other service providers just use gigabit ethernet over fiber (1 gige or 10 gige). My box that I seed off of has 4x100 meg connections which it can't saturate due to I/O. Torrenting is heavy on random I/O as doing sequential reads my box can actually do over 600-700 megabytes/sec (so 6-7 gigabits).

And even when you do have the connection, and cache the top-accessed 120Gb of data on a SSD,
you need to have someone to seed too.

I would say that anyone over 300Mbps is most likely cheating. I hardly ever reach more than 100Mbps,
only during the initial day or so when a popular torrent has been added.

Over 300 is possible on new torrents during American Peak time, but only for 30minutes or so...then its more like 15MB/s average possible for 24hours or so...depending on the popularity of them obviously...but impossible to sustain for a long period

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edit, though this is obviously only a select few that will be able to...and they could probably prove it if they wanted to, where as others cant...

AceD · « **Reply #450 on:** January 05, 2010, 02:43:53 PM »

http://bakabt.me/user/695125/ZuuZou.html

Goroshi-sama · « **Reply #451 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:59:08 PM »

im not 100% but is it possible to upload 63.31TB in 11 days?

it seems that this guy has..

blubart · « **Reply #452 on:** January 14, 2010, 04:29:44 PM »

Quote from: Goroshi-sama on January 14, 2010, 03:59:08 PM

im not 100% but is it possible to upload 63.31TB in 11 days?

it seems that this guy has..

considering that he uploaded 4269 copies of a torrent that got completed 3042 times i would clearly say no.

morset · « **Reply #453 on:** January 17, 2010, 10:06:20 PM »

I read this on a well known tracker FAQ:

Quote from: FAQ

a few Israeli ISPs (mostly GOLDEN LINES), are intensionally altering the announces to our tracker of their clients, announcing to our tracker false stats (over 8.000.000 TB of upload and download) in order for these users to be probably banned (and save some bandwidth). The tracker detects these false announces and rejects them with the error message: Abnormal downloaded or uploaded data detected, announce dropped. If you received this error, then your ISP is trying to use the same method of faking announces. Unfortunately although all normal announces are counted normally to the user's uploaded and downloaded data, since the ISP is altering announces originally sent by the user's client (which our tracker rejects) some downloaded or uploaded data may not be announced to our tracker, but there is really nothing that we can do to prevent this.

The faq state those ISPs are from Israel, but it's not impossible that some other ISPs from all around the world are doing the same thing!
I think this issue could be related to those users that have suddenly high upload quantity in probably one announcement.
It's possible that some of those users that got banned from here are in fact innocent people that had such ISPs?
When this happened the user and the tracker can't detect it, and no matter how many times that user say "he didn't do anything and don't know how this happened", obviously no one would believe him.
Really sad story if this is true :'(

K7IA · « **Reply #454 on:** January 17, 2010, 10:30:20 PM »

^ oh, this is bad. This would practically give anyone a reason to appeal to a ban due to stats cheating. Since it would not be possible to store every announce transmission from BitTorrent clients, how will BakaBT staff determine if this is the cause or even restore the correct stats.

very bad.

surdumil · « **Reply #455 on:** January 17, 2010, 10:44:03 PM »

Would protocol encryption circumvent ISP meddling?

K7IA · « **Reply #456 on:** January 17, 2010, 10:52:14 PM »

Quote from: surdumil on January 17, 2010, 10:44:03 PM

Would protocol encryption circumvent ISP meddling?

unfortunately protocol encryption only covers the data transmission between BitTorrent clients...

The communication of the BitTorrent client with the tracker is nekkid and prone to various vulnerabilities, like modification of data as stated by allouh.

Secure http (https) seems to be the only solution, which is not currently implemented by BakaBT

psyren · « **Reply #457 on:** January 18, 2010, 12:27:15 AM »

We ban, they appeal and provide evidence of no wrongdoing.

endlessworld · « **Reply #458 on:** January 18, 2010, 02:04:03 AM »

Quote from: enginarc on January 17, 2010, 10:30:20 PM

This would practically give anyone a reason to appeal to a ban due to stats cheating.

luckily, our servers will always be capable of identifying our user's agent-string, and if desired, their ISP aswell(with very small room for error), making it difficult to appeal if their ISP has a reputation opposable to their claims

eg:

Quote

Hostname Country Code Country Name Region Region Name City Postal Code Latitude Longitude ISP Organization Metro Code Area Code
95.211.6.148 NL Netherlands 07 Noord-Holland Amsterdam 52.3500 4.9167 LeaseWeb B.V. LeaseWeb B.V.

Xandal · « **Reply #459 on:** January 25, 2010, 10:57:59 AM »

Noobinator

http://bakabt.me/user/938602/Noobinator.htm

In 5 hours jumped to first place without seeding a single torrent. Doubt that's real.