Author Topic: Naruto Discussion [Manga Only] (Read 200071 times)

deadskin · « **Reply #1460 on:** September 17, 2012, 01:40:54 PM »

Quote from: Takeshi on September 17, 2012, 11:53:25 AM

b) Sasuke realized that he doesn't have any purpose left and doesn't want to live anymore. He can't live with anyone anymore, and asks Naruto to kill him. Naruto does it, and becomes the sixth Hokage.

Naruto will die and inspire Sasuke to live on, becoming the Hokage in his place.

RayIII · « **Reply #1461 on:** September 17, 2012, 03:29:25 PM »

Quote from: deadskin on September 17, 2012, 01:40:54 PM

Naruto will die and inspire Sasuke to live on, becoming the Hokage in his place.

That won't happen, the series is called Naruto and not Sasuke.

I wonder what the other Bijuus gave Naruto. I think that'll be the key.
I think maybe Naruto could become the Jinchuurikii for the Tentails.

Xycolian2332 · « **Reply #1462 on:** September 19, 2012, 06:47:31 PM »

602 is out and apparently the old man who saved Obito is

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I hope there won't be a shit ton of flashbacks for Obito like there were for Nagato during the pain arc when Naruto confronted Nagato's real body... I wanna see some action lol.

EDIT:
At this point it really seems quite obvious to me that Madara proceeded to borrow

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That revelation should make Newy a little less angry I think

forsaken · « **Reply #1463 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:30:13 PM »

Quote from: Xycolian2332 on September 19, 2012, 06:47:31 PM

602 is out and apparently the old man who saved Obito is Madara. later in the chapter he says he entrusted his original eyes to someone else. I wonder if Nagato was the one he entrusted his original eyes to?

No need for Spoiler tags, this is the manga thread.

At this point Madara is aeons old, decrepit and weak. He is only alive thanks to the Mazou's chakra. He has already activated the Rinnegan and obviously, the person he's given them to is Nagato.

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At this point it really seems quite obvious to me that Madara proceeded to borrow Obito's eye. So it was actually Madara who fought with the 4th Hokage during the night Naruto was born and not Obito

Madara has white hair and is in no condition to fight anybody. He will soon die.

Obito will fight against Minato several years later with long black hair. Obito is the only person who fights using the mask/Tobi's identity.

Osmo · « **Reply #1464 on:** September 21, 2012, 09:44:10 PM »

I'm still watching the episodes, I think I just saw Itachi Uchiha Resurrected? My imagination? The guys a legend.

Can't wait to start on the manga.

Takeshi · « **Reply #1465 on:** September 21, 2012, 10:11:02 PM »

Quote from: Osmo on September 21, 2012, 09:44:10 PM

Can't wait to start on the manga.

...and you figured you'd pop in to say that? Kind of risky...

Quote from: forsaken on September 19, 2012, 08:30:13 PM

Madara has white hair and is in no condition to fight anybody. He will soon die.

Obito will fight against Minato several years later with long black hair. Obito is the only person who fights using the mask/Tobi's identity.

That definitely makes the most sense. I am guessing that with time Madara manages to brainwash him enough so that when he finally can leave, he decides to stick around anyway to help Madara "break the cycle" in his way.

obviously Kakashi getting Rin killed along the line doesn't help. Not sure if that's still just a bullshit excuse.

Nodame-chan · « **Reply #1466 on:** September 22, 2012, 06:33:35 AM »

What if... What if that's not even Madara but Izuna... ? >.>

So I start to understand what's going on little by little. Kakashi probably left Rin when he could have saved her and Obito saw that. And boom, now he's the evil guy obsessed with revenge as all the other stupid Uchihas >.> (except Itachi of course <3)

newy · « **Reply #1467 on:** September 26, 2012, 07:14:14 AM »

Or he simply blames Kakashi for letting Rin die although he was there and, from our and Kakashi's perspective, tried to protect her. In his rage Obito simply blames him.

Who thinks those Zetsus ("Dumb and Dumber") are not there to help Obito cope with his new body but are part of his body?
His current body is rather incomplete and to complete it he has to fuse with more Zetsus but his mental state must allow that. And the rescue is the first fine opportunity to do so.

forsaken · « **Reply #1468 on:** September 26, 2012, 02:13:28 PM »

Madara is asleep all the while Obito is training. His hair even grows a fair deal longer. Madara is sleeping for weeks?

Dafuq is Black Zetsu at?

It's all very suspicious. White Zetsu suit is obviously created specifically with Obito in mind. Am thinking that Kakashi & Rin's situation is probably orchestrated by Madara/White Zetsu to drive Obito towards using the suit. The question is why?

I don't think he's going to fuse further with Zetsu but it's true that his current body is incomplete. I also don't think he's going to fuse with the suit-zetsu or permanently wear it from now on.

Nodame-chan · « **Reply #1469 on:** September 26, 2012, 02:19:16 PM »

Ok one more question. If Madara is an old geezer, how come he has a young body after being reincarnated?!!??! I don't think edo tensei can make one young again.

Faerwon · « **Reply #1470 on:** September 27, 2012, 03:27:24 PM »

Quote from: Nodame-chan on September 26, 2012, 02:19:16 PM

Ok one more question. If Madara is an old geezer, how come he has a young body after being reincarnated?!!??! I don't think edo tensei can make one young again.

"I left my real eyes to someone else. This is just a spare I got implanted afterward." Like you already said, it's actually Izuna. The real Madara died at the Valley of the End. Izuna is Madara's brother and gave him his eyes willingly so I assume they share goals/values/dreams. He's calling himself Madara because Madara was a legend, he stayed in the shadows. Obito probably wouldn't recognize his name.

Edit: I checked up on something: Obito is still half "Zetsu". I guess this explains how Zetsu always seems to know where he is. No idea what black Zetsu is though. Izuna's clone or something?

Nodame-chan · « **Reply #1471 on:** September 27, 2012, 03:32:25 PM »

Yup, that's what I thought when I read that chapter. It's gotta be Izuna. I don't see any other reasonable explanations.
And yes, I believe it is Izuna.

Osmo · « **Reply #1472 on:** September 29, 2012, 07:43:50 PM »

What reason do you have to believe it's Izuna?

forsaken · « **Reply #1473 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:44:29 PM »

Quote from: Osmo on September 29, 2012, 07:43:50 PM

What reason do you have to believe it's Izuna?

I too don't see a need for this plot-change.

Madara achieved Rinnegan shortly before his death (don't have proof but I recall something thereabouts).
He gave Nagato the Rinnegan (though I think Tobi claims he done it, perhaps still impersonating Madara?).
The old guy with white hair is missing his eyes and says he's given them to somebody else.

This all fits together nicely, no?

Nodame-chan · « **Reply #1474 on:** October 02, 2012, 06:50:38 AM »

Now this makes sense (or it doesn't??!?)...
I thought that Kakashi wasn't able to protect Rin.. But WTF?! He killed her himself??? I understand Obito.
But that still is not a reason to destroy a whole world. Go kill Kakashi if you want to.

Xycolian2332 · « **Reply #1475 on:** October 02, 2012, 07:17:11 AM »

Where did you read the chapter? none of the sites I frequent have uploaded it yet.

Nodame-chan · « **Reply #1476 on:** October 02, 2012, 07:21:06 AM »

Xycolian2332 · « **Reply #1477 on:** October 02, 2012, 07:33:15 AM »

Quote from: Nodame-chan on October 02, 2012, 07:21:06 AM

Here

Thank you.

Not sure I like Kakashi too much anymore... he better have a good explanation for this.

newy · « **Reply #1478 on:** October 02, 2012, 07:52:17 AM »

lol, you guys are reacting exactly the way Kishimoto wants.

I don't know if you have seen the tears running down his Sharingan eye...

Xycolian2332 · « **Reply #1479 on:** October 02, 2012, 08:26:04 AM »

Yeah I did, but that doesn't change what I said. He better have a good explanation.

I can see Rin asking him to do it because she's trying to be all Ninja and suspects that she'll fall into the enemies hands, and doesn't want to leak any information... but that would be stupid imo. If Kakashi did this on his own initiative because he feared that she would be captured... then I will hate him.

Basically if this is in any way Kakashi's fault, whether it is due to negligence or some kind of miscalculation he made, I'll be a little peeved. But if the circumstances they're currently in are not the result of bad decisions that Kakashi might have made; and their luck just ran out, I might be able to understand.

It's also possible she was under genjutsu and they made her make threatening moves towards Kakashi, and his reflexes took over or something. Although that would be stupid as well.