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BotMan2:
Maybe Tobi/Madara has Space/Time manipulation powers? It could be the reason he can warp here to there and not being able to be damaged by conventional techniques (ex. rasengan).

Kakashi got a normal sharingan from Obito, the reason it turned into m. sharingan is unknown (AFAIK).

fohfoh:
I wasn't aware of Tobi's space time technique. Though we're guessing he has longevity.

Wasn't it also explained that M Sharingan doesn't need you to kill someone but to witness the death of someone close? (Which Kakashi should have witnessed a bunch of times over and over.

BotMan2:
About the space/time technique, it still (my) speculation.


--- Quote ---Wasn't it also explained that M Sharingan doesn't need you to kill someone but to witness the death of someone close? (Which Kakashi should have witnessed a bunch of times over and over.
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True. But a M. Sharingan doesn't just appear out of nowhere. There must be a reason (which IF I remember kakashi was going to explain but was interrupted by Naruto and Sakura).

vicious796:
Kakashi has always felt, at least, that he killed Obito. We also don't know what happened to Rin but I believe we were told she's dead for sure.

Tobi/Madara has teleported randomly at small differences with an unknown max range. This is not guaranteed to be a Sharingan technique as the 4th Hokage was also able to do this over GREAT distances (like half the f'n planet).

The only known M.S. to alter "the space/time continum" is Kakashi's. Itachi didn't actually remove anyone from the physical plane, he just invaded the mind and controlled "time" there (stabbing Kakashi for 72 hours in the matter of 1 second). It's one of those mind over matter things. If you truly believe 72 hours passed in 1 second, it did. Itachi had the most perfect form of Genjutsu with his M.S. (genjutsu being his specialty anyhow).

Sasuke has not shown if he's developed a special technique utilizing his M.S. or not. So far we've only seen him have extreme control over amaretsu.

EDIT: After rereading chapter 390, page 8, Itachi was also able to recede the flames.

flamedance58:
About Tobi's ability..I do believe somewhere in the manga it does mention Kakashi wondering how Tobi can move so fast that he takes no damage and there was mentioning of a time/space teleportation ability.

Oh and the 4th isn't as advanced as Tobi's considering the 4th had the mark the things he wanted to go to like when he slapped that mark on that Earth Country guy in the Kakashi Special (Can't remember name it's the one where they talk about him being a kid,etc.) and the special kunai.
While he has to mark things Tobi just up and does it without any special equipment or preparation. Also to note it's very fast considering he did need to get away from when Deidera(sp?) exploded.

I'm kind of curious whether Naruto ever gains control over the Kyuubi like that Bull Demon guy did; cause even though some might not like the idea I still think it'd be pretty neat to see Naruto slipping into the forms and not going crazy.

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