Macross Frontier

[Mele]

My favorite is Lion, Northern Cross, Triangler, What 'bout My Star? (Sheryl on Stage), Welcome to My FanClub's Night! (Sheryl on Stage), and Infinity which are all by Sheryl only. The Nyan Nyan Special Service Medley (Tokumori) is with Sheryl and Ranka. No, I'm not being biased. Ranka's only good song is actually in the Nyan Nyan special service. If you listen to the Nyan Nyan song going 9:01 into it, that's like the epic favorite part!

Erm, isn't that the definition of biased? It's kind of impossible to pick your favorite songs without being biased since music is exclusively subjective.


It's awesome that they picked May'n and Nakajima Megumi to sing since it was the first anime role for both of them (although Sheryl has a different voice actor when she isn't singing). It would have sucked if they just selected two random popular voice actors, but instead they put a lot of work into selecting singers that really suited the characters.

[Aneroph]

It's awesome that they picked May'n and Nakajima Megumi to sing since it was the first anime role for both of them (although Sheryl has a different voice actor when she isn't singing). It would have sucked if they just selected two random popular voice actors, but instead they put a lot of work into selecting singers that really suited the characters.

Both the voice actors should be used in a lot more roles soon. They both deserve a cookie for being so awesome *shoves a cookie in his fax machine and hits -send-*.

[Tatsujin]

That song is like a minute song, it's a funny one. What got you so addicted to it?

I just ran by it when I was listening to the soundtrack. I forgot where it was in the anime until I stopped and actually listened to the lyrics and remembered Ranka in the carrot suit. The lyrics are quite funny actually. The song talks about life and having dreams and decently serious things, but then it ends every phrase with "carrot loves you yeah". Most Japanese songs don't make a lot of sense, but I can't imagine what people would think as they pass someone on the street singing this.

So I just went through my OST list and counted how many songs each girl has. I counted only the songs that the girls didn't do together and I included every song that had the character listed as the artist. Can someone confirm that Ranka has 30 and Sheryl only has 13? That's extremely one sided. I went back and only counted the songs actually featuring the girls (no instrumentals or repeat songs unless the repeat changed/was a different version) and the numbers were 15 Ranka, 9 Sheryl. If I were a Sheryl fan I would demand a movie and a movie soundtrack featuring her

Kk, first of all. You counted songs that were already sang twice but in different tones or has different features in it. With that, she totals 13 songs (Ranka). Sheryl totals (with the same method you counted Ranka's method with) 14 songs. So you wanna count songs that are less thank a minute? 23 seconds and 26 seconds? If you count those, Ranka will come up with only 15 songs. But look over Sheryl, there is no song that has couple of seconds to be counted as a song. When I looked at your numbers, I went to Foobar to check their songs. I have no idea how you missed Sheryl's but 9 songs for her when she has this much fame? I doubt it. The songs On Stage do count, just like how you counted Watashi no Kare ha Pilot / Watashi no Kare ha Pilot -MISS MACROSS 2059-, Ai, Obeteimasu ka (and two other versions of hers). If you want to count just the songs without any additional features then the total would be 8 songs for Ranka and 10 songs for Sheryl. This is without counting similar songs (Triangler / Triangler something).

Forgot to mention, Ranka has a song with 1:03 ... wait, is it even considered a song?! Lol. That's the commercial one just like the other two which are less than a minute. I still counted it. Songs are literal songs that were written, spoken and demonstrated on stage ... not commercials.

[Mele]

Forgot to mention, Ranka has a song with 1:03 ... wait, is it even considered a song?! Lol. That's the commercial one just like the other two which are less than a minute. I still counted it. Songs are literal songs that were written, spoken and demonstrated on stage ... not commercials.

Oh wow, now we actually have to argue the number of songs each of them have? Does it really matter at all? It's possible that you guys have a different number of OSTs, and as has been demonstrated, there's such an odd variety of songs that it's difficult to count them accurately. Plus, who decided songs have to be performed on stage? You're trying too hard to see in favor of Sheryl in every single little thing. This is sort of what I meant by your love for one character and dislike of another impeding your enjoyment of the series. Your method of counting songs is just nitpicky and biased.

Can't we just appreciate both girls for what they offer, and have are own favorites instead of arguing about things such as the quantity of songs?

[Tatsujin]

Forgot to mention, Ranka has a song with 1:03 ... wait, is it even considered a song?! Lol. That's the commercial one just like the other two which are less than a minute. I still counted it. Songs are literal songs that were written, spoken and demonstrated on stage ... not commercials.

Oh wow, now we actually have to argue the number of songs each of them have? Does it really matter at all? It's possible that you guys have a different number of OSTs, and as has been demonstrated, there's such an odd variety of songs that it's difficult to count them accurately. Plus, who decided songs have to be performed on stage? You're trying too hard to see in favor of Sheryl in every single little thing. This is sort of what I meant by your love for one character and dislike of another impeding your enjoyment of the series. Your method of counting songs is just nitpicky and biased.

Can't we just appreciate both girls for what they offer, and have are own favorites instead of arguing about things such as the quantity of songs?

I counted them fairly. I'd rather end this at peace rather than further arguments about this. Songs on stages either feature just the fans or/and extended song length. Besides the fact that he counted couple of songs that had little to no song re-arrangements. Similar shit to what he did right? Point your finger at him before you point it at me. Why not just count the actual songs with no other special features?

If you want to count just the songs without any additional features then the total would be 8 songs for Ranka and 10 songs for Sheryl. This is without counting similar songs (Triangler / Triangler something).

End of story. Count the songs yourself and tell me the numbers you come up with. Songs, not commercial shit.

I'm starting Macross Zero today (did I mention this some other day? I couldn't start at all, I was busy with the website).

[vuzedome]

I'm on my second go on this(including the tv version).
Anyone finished this more than twice(including the tv version)?

[Tatsujin]

I'm on my second go on this(including the tv version).
Anyone finished this more than twice(including the tv version)?

Huh ... ? You saw everything (all of Macross series) twice? ... Or are you talking about Macross Frontier? or Macross Zero?

Edit -- FYI, I am assorting all files I have downloaded for Macross Frontier. The interesting thing is there are about 9 or 12 other episodes, each 1 to 2 minute length only featuring some manga-type (no idea if these are side stories). They are non-translated. Another awesome part is I have two different calendars featuring Sheryl (Jan to April), Ranka (May to August) and the last four months are mix and match between the three characters. Also, another set of Calendar showing Sheryl's concerts and her time schedule, also for Ranka, too. The difference between the two is the color (Sheryl = Blue, Ranka = Green) and Sheryl uses English as Ranka uses Japanese. There's a lot more things in here (I'm digging and unzipping other folders). I forgot where I put my 1080p blu-ray folder too.

Edit2- I'm having a problem with Foobar (one down feature about Foobar). What file do I need to convert things to .flac? ... Similar to LAME'S MP3.

Edit3 -- Link to both opening themes for Macross Frontier. Enjoy.

[newy]

The 1-2min ones called Macross Fuffonia are specials of the DVDs/BDs. The Macross F staff is in modern day Tokyo (or wheresoever) and part of a company.

[Lupin]

I'm on my second go on this(including the tv version).
Anyone finished this more than twice(including the tv version)?

I've finished watching this 5 times: 1 (Lunar's), 3 (AOGM's), 1 (THORA's)
EDIT: I've marathoned the series everytime I watched it, 25 episodes straight.

[Tatsujin]

I'm on my second go on this(including the tv version).
Anyone finished this more than twice(including the tv version)?

I've finished watching this 5 times: 1 (Lunar's), 3 (AOGM's), 1 (THORA's)
EDIT: I've marathoned the series everytime I watched it, 25 episodes straight.

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Sheryl Nome is related to Sara and Mao Nome?! (from Macross Zero) ...

[Aneroph]

Forgot to mention, Ranka has a song with 1:03 ... wait, is it even considered a song?! Lol. That's the commercial one just like the other two which are less than a minute. I still counted it. Songs are literal songs that were written, spoken and demonstrated on stage ... not commercials.

Oh wow, now we actually have to argue the number of songs each of them have? Does it really matter at all? It's possible that you guys have a different number of OSTs, and as has been demonstrated, there's such an odd variety of songs that it's difficult to count them accurately. Plus, who decided songs have to be performed on stage? You're trying too hard to see in favor of Sheryl in every single little thing. This is sort of what I meant by your love for one character and dislike of another impeding your enjoyment of the series. Your method of counting songs is just nitpicky and biased.

Can't we just appreciate both girls for what they offer, and have are own favorites instead of arguing about things such as the quantity of songs?

I counted them fairly. I'd rather end this at peace rather than further arguments about this. Songs on stages either feature just the fans or/and extended song length. Besides the fact that he counted couple of songs that had little to no song re-arrangements. Similar shit to what he did right? Point your finger at him before you point it at me. Why not just count the actual songs with no other special features?

If you want to count just the songs without any additional features then the total would be 8 songs for Ranka and 10 songs for Sheryl. This is without counting similar songs (Triangler / Triangler something).

End of story. Count the songs yourself and tell me the numbers you come up with. Songs, not commercial shit.

I'm starting Macross Zero today (did I mention this some other day? I couldn't start at all, I was busy with the website).

Tatsujin, I have to completely agree with Mele here. You are stretching in every direction to make Ranka look like shit and Sheryl to look good. I counted variety of songs by an artist, whether it was 1:00 long or 10:00 long. My point was, Sheryl was missing a lot of the little extras in the soundtrack that Ranka got and deserved more. You act like I was bashing Sheryl :p Either way, if you hate the other characters as much as you keep saying then I guess it's your loss.

Converting things to flac isn't done in foobar I don't believe, and you can't go from a lossy format to a lossless format to achieve better sound (It's like upscaling a non-vector image). Search the forums, I saw someone post the program needed to rip/convert files to flac just the other day.

[newy]

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Sheryl Nome is related to Sara and Mao Nome?! (from Macross Zero) ...

spoiler, spoiler, my friend

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Yes, she is. Granddaughter of Mao Nome (Well, being the granddaughter of Sara could be difficult^^

I mentioned that several post before. Didn't you read the spoilers?

She's human and (DO NOT READ the spoiler if you haven't finished yet)

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probably related to some of the most significant characters in the Macross universe; Sara Nome and Mao Nome (probably grandmother).

The Meltrandi is called Clan Clang (or something in that direction).

[Tatsujin]

Forgot to mention, Ranka has a song with 1:03 ... wait, is it even considered a song?! Lol. That's the commercial one just like the other two which are less than a minute. I still counted it. Songs are literal songs that were written, spoken and demonstrated on stage ... not commercials.

Oh wow, now we actually have to argue the number of songs each of them have? Does it really matter at all? It's possible that you guys have a different number of OSTs, and as has been demonstrated, there's such an odd variety of songs that it's difficult to count them accurately. Plus, who decided songs have to be performed on stage? You're trying too hard to see in favor of Sheryl in every single little thing. This is sort of what I meant by your love for one character and dislike of another impeding your enjoyment of the series. Your method of counting songs is just nitpicky and biased.

Can't we just appreciate both girls for what they offer, and have are own favorites instead of arguing about things such as the quantity of songs?

I counted them fairly. I'd rather end this at peace rather than further arguments about this. Songs on stages either feature just the fans or/and extended song length. Besides the fact that he counted couple of songs that had little to no song re-arrangements. Similar shit to what he did right? Point your finger at him before you point it at me. Why not just count the actual songs with no other special features?

If you want to count just the songs without any additional features then the total would be 8 songs for Ranka and 10 songs for Sheryl. This is without counting similar songs (Triangler / Triangler something).

End of story. Count the songs yourself and tell me the numbers you come up with. Songs, not commercial shit.

I'm starting Macross Zero today (did I mention this some other day? I couldn't start at all, I was busy with the website).

Tatsujin, I have to completely agree with Mele here. You are stretching in every direction to make Ranka look like shit and Sheryl to look good. I counted variety of songs by an artist, whether it was 1:00 long or 10:00 long. My point was, Sheryl was missing a lot of the little extras in the soundtrack that Ranka got and deserved more. You act like I was bashing Sheryl :p Either way, if you hate the other characters as much as you keep saying then I guess it's your loss.

Converting things to flac isn't done in foobar I don't believe, and you can't go from a lossy format to a lossless format to achieve better sound (It's like upscaling a non-vector image). Search the forums, I saw someone post the program needed to rip/convert files to flac just the other day.

1. Sorry that I seem that way.
2. You and him both like Ranka, so teaming up on me seems the appropriate way to defend Ranka. Right?
3. You counted the songs wrong whether because you don't have all of Macross Frontier's songs or just didn't count them accurately for whatever reason.
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I don't mind if I do seem exaggerating and all, but be accurate and be mindful when you speak about Sheryl at the very least. You don't see me speaking very lowly of Ranka in every post I make. At least I came to an understanding that I respect Ranka to a limit.

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Sheryl Nome is related to Sara and Mao Nome?! (from Macross Zero) ...

spoiler, spoiler, my friend

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Yes, she is. Granddaughter of Mao Nome (Well, being the granddaughter of Sara could be difficult^^

I mentioned that several post before. Didn't you read the spoilers?

She's human and (DO NOT READ the spoiler if you haven't finished yet)

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probably related to some of the most significant characters in the Macross universe; Sara Nome and Mao Nome (probably grandmother).

The Meltrandi is called Clan Clang (or something in that direction).

So, going back to Macross Frontier ..

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Mao is the female in the necklace the Owner had? ... I thought Macross had thousands of years in-between each series

[dbml]

So, going back to Macross Frontier ..

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Mao is the female in the necklace the Owner had? ... I thought Macross had thousands of years in-between each series

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You mean the big Z who owned the Frontier? That happens to be Minmay from the original Macross

[Lupin]

I thought Macross had thousands of years in-between each series

No. Only 48 years have passed since Macross Zero and the launch(?) of Macross Frontier. The war involving the Zentradi (not with the humans) has been going on for thousands of years though.

EDIT: This reminds me: in the Macross timeline, it was this year (2009) that the war between Zentradi and humans occurred)

[newy]

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Mao Nome is the little girl in Macross Zero and the elderly woman in the wheelchair sitting together with Ranka's mother, Ranka and Brera on the planet of the Vajras.

Like dbml said, the picture in the necklace is from Lynn Minmei

[Mele]

I counted them fairly. I'd rather end this at peace rather than further arguments about this. Songs on stages either feature just the fans or/and extended song length. Besides the fact that he counted couple of songs that had little to no song re-arrangements. Similar shit to what he did right? Point your finger at him before you point it at me. Why not just count the actual songs with no other special features?

You're right, he did count re-arrangements. It's debatable whether those can be considered new songs or not. That's not my point though. My point is that you choose to skew every little thing in favor of Sheryl, however minuscule in importance. "Ranka may have more songs than Sheryl? Oh, in that case, anything that isn't on stage is automatically not considered a song!" I would not consider the Nyan Nyan jingle to be a song either. It's more of an extended, extremely cute Ranka catchphrase. It's really not about the number of songs. I couldn't care less if Sheryl has more songs than Ranka, I just wish you wouldn't be so biased in every single post comparing them and then claim not to be. That's why I responded to your post, and not his.

1. Sorry that I seem that way.
2. You and him both like Ranka, so teaming up on me seems the appropriate way to defend Ranka. Right?
3. You counted the songs wrong whether because you don't have all of Macross Frontier's songs or just didn't count them accurately for whatever reason.
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I don't mind if I do seem exaggerating and all, but be accurate and be mindful when you speak about Sheryl at the very least. You don't see me speaking very lowly of Ranka in every post I make. At least I came to an understanding that I respect Ranka to a limit.

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Sure, you haven't literally insulted Ranka in every one of your posts, but each one is oozing with your biased reasons why Sheryl is superior. In almost every one of my posts pertaining to Ranka vs. Sheryl, I've been sure to concede that I am very fond of Sheryl and that I think both girls are awesome. Ranka just happens to be my favorite.

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My whole point in originally responding to Tatsujin's post was that the number of songs each girl has does not matter in the slightest. You're just actively looking for anything you can to "prove" Sheryl's superiority.

I think you're right, though. It's time to end it here. If you can't see that you're biased towards Sheryl and pushing her at any little opportunity, than nothing we can post is going to make you see that.

I'll just stick to loving both girls and enjoy Macross Frontier to its maximum potential.

[Tatsujin]

In the end, you're a Ranka fan and I'm a Sheryl fan. Amusing isn't it? You're coming out of no where to judge me and tell me how to act? That you don't like me being biased? That you don't like how I responded and "This is why I responded to you and not him"? Well guess what? Tough luck. This is how I am. Accept it or ignore it. And Sheryl, in my own fucking opinion, is superior to Ranka. As much as I have giving Ranka credit for her voice and about 2 or 3 of her single songs, I can't push any harder on her. I don't dislike her as much as you view it in your own mind. You're not me, as I am not you.

I've skipped most of your sentences for the sake of not wasting my own time over this silly argument. I'll end it here. Enough with the kids fight. Responding back to my post will not end the arguments.

[vuzedome]

I'm on my second go on this(including the tv version).
Anyone finished this more than twice(including the tv version)?

I've finished watching this 5 times: 1 (Lunar's), 3 (AOGM's), 1 (THORA's)
EDIT: I've marathoned the series everytime I watched it, 25 episodes straight.

Oh gosh!! This goes to show the first timers how good this show is.

[relic2279]

I'm in your court Tatsujin. You're not alone

I also preferred Sheryl over Ranka.

But man, this is one of those shows you know will never have a second season, but you want one bad, if not for the music alone. And I don't even listen to anime music.