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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #200 on: September 01, 2009, 10:01:01 PM »
Hit ep 17 and there are some unknown people who never appear again in the series. I think they appeared only once before when that Kishima guy was meeting with them. Coulnd't it be that these guys and their possible organisation could appear in the 2nd movie? Or is that just Grace in some kind of disguise?

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I suggest to read over Wikipedia (once again). Most questions you ask are answered in there. Those "voices" that you hear are those whom are with Grace. There isn't much discussed about them since the series never explained who they are and what they are. Grace originally was a human, but then the Varja attacked her and screwed up her experiments with Ranka and her brother and whatever else she was doing and that ultimately pissed her off very much. Her thoughts "So you think you're better than us, attacking us? I'll over come this and will sacrifice everything to take you over, to overpower you, to control you" <-- These were her thoughts, in the anime they are different and in wikipedia it will explain further why she became so obsessed with taking over them. They just pissed her off a lot. Those OTHER voices that you hear were always within Macross Galaxy (was the name? Sheryl's homeland I think also the first Movie which will most likely be about Sheryl and the Galaxy and Grace) were most likely those who worked with Grace on her projects and were also killed off, in which most were saved by Grace (read wikipedia). The first movie should explain more about Grace's work and whomever was with her in her projects and also about Sheryl and the "missing" connection of her existence, how she ended up on Galaxy and why she was thrown on the streets before Grace took her in, and her rise to becoming famous as well. My fingers are tired, today sucked at work.


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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #201 on: September 01, 2009, 10:14:38 PM »
I'm not talking about the "Galaxian" collective inside Grace but
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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #202 on: September 01, 2009, 10:17:02 PM »
I'm not talking about the "Galaxian" collective inside Grace but
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Are you talking about ... man I don't remember who Kishma is lol.


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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #203 on: September 01, 2009, 10:18:56 PM »
Kishima is the "vice president"

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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #204 on: September 01, 2009, 10:19:30 PM »
Kishima is the "vice president"
That asshole? I never liked him from the beginning.


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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #205 on: September 01, 2009, 11:23:10 PM »
It's how I really feel about Ranka, Mele. =] I enjoyed Macross Frontier from start to finish and I didn't miss out on anything as you claim it to be.

I donno, to me if you're less entertained for 4-6 episodes it means you're missing out on something that other people enjoyed. Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to diminish your enjoyment of the series. It's clear that you loved Macross Frontier. It's just my personal belief that if you liked Ranka you would have enjoyed it even more, especially during those episodes. I'm not telling you to like Ranka, since something like that obviously can't be forced. Just explaining my thoughts further.  :)

Kishima is the "vice president"
That asshole? I never liked him from the beginning.

Agreed on this. I think they sort of made it too obvious that he was evil from the beginning. He just had that certain vibe. It felt like they didn't want you to like him.

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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #206 on: September 02, 2009, 12:15:34 AM »
It's how I really feel about Ranka, Mele. =] I enjoyed Macross Frontier from start to finish and I didn't miss out on anything as you claim it to be.

I donno, to me if you're less entertained for 4-6 episodes it means you're missing out on something that other people enjoyed. Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to diminish your enjoyment of the series. It's clear that you loved Macross Frontier. It's just my personal belief that if you liked Ranka you would have enjoyed it even more, especially during those episodes. I'm not telling you to like Ranka, since something like that obviously can't be forced. Just explaining my thoughts further.  :)

Kishima is the "vice president"

That asshole? I never liked him from the beginning.

Agreed on this. I think they sort of made it too obvious that he was evil from the beginning. He just had that certain vibe. It felt like they didn't want you to like him.
Yea. As you stated, that's your opinion. In my opinion, I enjoyed it as much. I like Ranka so I won't add "just" or "buts" to it since I've already explained myself. Even if I stated it was boring and killed the on-going mood I was in and I did slow down around episode 11 to 15 until the duel song happened and Grace did all those things (we know what) and Sheryl's past, at least most of it, opened up. I like hyper anime and Macross Frontier had it all!

Now that we're talking about Kishima, ... they don't tell us what happens to him after they capture him at the end. Hmm ... makes you wonder! ;]


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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #207 on: September 02, 2009, 12:31:00 AM »
What makes me wonder is the way of thinking of Alto, Klan and Luca.

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Can someone enlighten me on the change of mind? That's what I didn't understand the first time I watched it, too.


EDIT2: Finished. Great show!!
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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #208 on: September 02, 2009, 01:38:13 AM »
What makes me wonder is the way of thinking of Alto, Klan and Luca.

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Can someone enlighten me on the change of mind? That's what I didn't understand the first time I watched it, too.


EDIT2: Finished. Great show!!
If my memory recalls correctly, Klan stayed behind because his grave was there ... She wanted to be close to him, not further away from him. Klan is smart in my opinion, despite her acting. I honestly felt that Klan's story was too short compared to Sheryl's and Ranka's.


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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #209 on: September 02, 2009, 11:47:56 AM »
In my eyes she was the most rational of them. Do you have an explanation/a theory for the others?

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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #210 on: September 02, 2009, 12:26:25 PM »
In my eyes she was the most rational of them. Do you have an explanation/a theory for the others?
Alto stayed for Sheryl ... he has feelings for her, as he does for Ranka. Tho' after learning what's happening to Sheryl it somewhat hit him pretty hard, besides the fact that Ranka left him for her own reasoning. That genius kid stayed for that girl. I can understand their points. I don't see a problem with Klan staying behind. I would have done the same thing. She was attached to him to the very core ... after all, Michael died in the worst possible situation, with a confession at the last moment ... so you gotta take Klan's feelings. He doesn't get to feel her body either way. Klan's got the hottest body out of the girls in Macross Frontier, despite she's a giant (scary ...). I still prefer Sheryl's >_<!


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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #211 on: September 02, 2009, 03:00:09 PM »
Can you explain their change of mind?
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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #212 on: September 02, 2009, 03:12:36 PM »
Can you explain their change of mind?
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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #213 on: September 02, 2009, 03:20:54 PM »
Hmm, then the rhetoric and the evidence must have been very convincing. Not very satisfying but I accept it :/

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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #214 on: September 06, 2009, 09:16:48 AM »
Torrent uploaded. PM me for the link. I've got THORA's release, FLAC music (from BakaBT) and Doujins (grabbed everything I can) and the booklets with the calendars I've been mentioning. I'll be seeding it for a week to two weeks.


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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #215 on: September 06, 2009, 10:14:06 PM »
I am loving this anime so much right now. I'm only on episode 6, but it got me fully hooked right now. =D

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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #216 on: September 06, 2009, 11:00:36 PM »
I am loving this anime so much right now. I'm only on episode 6, but it got me fully hooked right now. =D
Sweet! Glad your in the wagon now!


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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #217 on: September 06, 2009, 11:28:23 PM »
I am loving this anime so much right now. I'm only on episode 6, but it got me fully hooked right now. =D
Sweet! Glad your in the wagon now!

Glad to be on the wagon now lol. I'm enjoying every last min. of it.

Just finished it. I spent my day watching it only, but its because i was hooked the whole time. =D Definitely an A+++ in my books.
Spent a total of 12hrs straight watching all this lol.
I should of took my time, but it was too good to stop lol. =P
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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #218 on: September 07, 2009, 06:09:04 PM »
I am loving this anime so much right now. I'm only on episode 6, but it got me fully hooked right now. =D
Sweet! Glad your in the wagon now!

Glad to be on the wagon now lol. I'm enjoying every last min. of it.

Just finished it. I spent my day watching it only, but its because i was hooked the whole time. =D Definitely an A+++ in my books.
Spent a total of 12hrs straight watching all this lol.
I should of took my time, but it was too good to stop lol. =P
Ah, see!?!  :D I've seen it twice so far.


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Re: Macross Frontier
« Reply #219 on: September 07, 2009, 06:17:18 PM »
I am loving this anime so much right now. I'm only on episode 6, but it got me fully hooked right now. =D
Sweet! Glad your in the wagon now!

Glad to be on the wagon now lol. I'm enjoying every last min. of it.

Just finished it. I spent my day watching it only, but its because i was hooked the whole time. =D Definitely an A+++ in my books.
Spent a total of 12hrs straight watching all this lol.
I should of took my time, but it was too good to stop lol. =P
Ah, see!?!  :D I've seen it twice so far.

I'm already watching it again lol. o.o
Its still good and I'm enjoying it just as much as I did the first time lol.

Also I see nothing, but Macross Frontier and Clannad which I've become addicted to because of you lol.