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Tatsujin:

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--- Quote from: Havoc10K on September 28, 2009, 01:00:58 PM ---you guys look like this when you talk about how shorryl is hot:
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you seriously need to change a little and stop drooling.


*goes to drool over Kanokon again*

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First off her name is Sheryl and second I don't recalling us talking about how hot she is in this recent comvo lol.
Sheryl IS hot and I don't know how I look like that o.O
Why do I need to change also just because you say so lol. We have the right to like whoever!!!!!
I don't see whats wrong with Sheryl also o.o

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She's the only character with the prettiest hair, most colorful and eye capturing.

ss1252:
So, after watching this show and then skimming through the posts to see if there were any mentions of similarities to a certain book/series, I was surprised to not find any (only looked through MF threads, didn't think to look through other Macross threads, so my bad if this has been brought up).

For those of you who have read or heard of the book Ender's Game and the rest of the books in that series by Orson Scott Card, don't you find it odd in how similar the Vajra from MF and the buggers from Ender's Game are?  Not just that, but the situation as well as well as the final battle being at their respective home planet.

Both the Vajras and the buggers are creatures that live in a hive with the queen as the main force that directs everything.  They communicate through a similar network and not by words and because of this, felt the human species were inferior in that they were "alone" because they weren't connected to each other.  This network which allows instantaneous communication is what the humans develop in Ender's Game to talk to each other across the galaxy with no time lag.  Ranka Lee is also similar to Ender aka Andrew Wiggins in that both are somehow able to communicate with the other specie and are the ones to find a way for both species to coexist.

Similarities also exist in their most powerful weapon; the MDE (dimensional eater?) from MF and the MD device from Ender's Game that consumes matter (gets bigger from the starting point, as matter is all around, a chain-reaction is set off).  The list goes on and on...

Also, there are some similarities with StarCraft as well... ;D

Tatsujin:

--- Quote from: ss1252 on October 01, 2009, 02:28:48 AM ---So, after watching this show and then skimming through the posts to see if there were any mentions of similarities to a certain book/series, I was surprised to not find any (only looked through MF threads, didn't think to look through other Macross threads, so my bad if this has been brought up).

For those of you who have read or heard of the book Ender's Game and the rest of the books in that series by Orson Scott Card, don't you find it odd in how similar the Vajra from MF and the buggers from Ender's Game are?  Not just that, but the situation as well as well as the final battle being at their respective home planet.

Both the Vajras and the buggers are creatures that live in a hive with the queen as the main force that directs everything.  They communicate through a similar network and not by words and because of this, felt the human species were inferior in that they were "alone" because they weren't connected to each other.  This network which allows instantaneous communication is what the humans develop in Ender's Game to talk to each other across the galaxy with no time lag.  Ranka Lee is also similar to Ender aka Andrew Wiggins in that both are somehow able to communicate with the other specie and are the ones to find a way for both species to coexist.

Similarities also exist in their most powerful weapon; the MDE (dimensional eater?) from MF and the MD device from Ender's Game that consumes matter (gets bigger from the starting point, as matter is all around, a chain-reaction is set off).  The list goes on and on...

Also, there are some similarities with StarCraft as well... ;D


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Each has it's own unique things that makes it different than the others. The first, foremost and above all, is to actually compare an anime to a real-live movie, specially to American stuff: I hate that shit. I'm sorry, I just can't stand any American movie. I've grown to stop going there now, I go with my friend to him company every Friday. I took like a month and a half off (and he gets a girlfriend, haha!).

But honestly, the movies you mentioned would barely come close to Macross Frontier. Graphics, characters, plot build, technology, and the many other things around it. Go watch Macross Zero if you haven't seen it. It's a prequel.

Borror0:

--- Quote from: ss1252 on October 01, 2009, 02:28:48 AM ---For those of you who have read or heard of the book Ender's Game and the rest of the books in that series by Orson Scott Card, don't you find it odd in how similar the Vajra from MF and the buggers from Ender's Game are?
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"I don't believe most 'new' ideas are truly new. The human race has been around for a long time. Most concepts have been stumbled upon. (In much the same way, the writer in me believes most story archetypes have been hit upon.) I believe most 'new' ideas are finding interesting ways to combine old ones. Yes, truly original thoughts happen, but I think they are very rare" -Mark Rosewater

ss1252:

--- Quote from: Tatsujin on October 01, 2009, 02:35:56 AM ---Each has it's own unique things that makes it different than the others. The first, foremost and above all, is to actually compare an anime to a real-live movie, specially to American stuff: I hate that shit. I'm sorry, I just can't stand any American movie. I've grown to stop going there now, I go with my friend to him company every Friday. I took like a month and a half off (and he gets a girlfriend, haha!).

But honestly, the movies you mentioned would barely come close to Macross Frontier. Graphics, characters, plot build, technology, and the many other things around it. Go watch Macross Zero if you haven't seen it. It's a prequel.

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Lol, first of all I'm not comparing it to a movie but a book series, but not all American movies are bad  :P, there's a gem every now and then, haha.  Anyways, this book which started a whole series was written in the 70's, and from there has grown quite a bit.  I want to say that for people who reads quite a bit of SciFi/Fantasy books have heard of Ender or at least the author, Orson Scott Card, but that could just be me. ;D  If you enjoy reading and have the time, I'd recommend trying the series.  Everything from the characters, to the setting, the plot, etc is well written and you might find yourself identifying with a certain character(s)...but that's what makes a movie/anime/book good right?

I was thinking about whether to watch the other Macross series before watching MF but I've read many posts that MF was okay as it is to watch as a stand alone series.  But I just might watch the others, well, Macross Zero at least.

As to what Borror0 said, I agree, novel and original ideas are rare nowadays and I'm sure most thoughts/ideas/concepts have been touched upon or another.  But after watching this series, I can't help but think that the creators have read Ender's Game and played StarCraft, haha.

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