Macross Frontier

[Tatsujin]

you guys look like this when you talk about how shorryl is hot:

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you seriously need to change a little and stop drooling.


*goes to drool over Kanokon again*

First off her name is Sheryl and second I don't recalling us talking about how hot she is in this recent comvo lol.
Sheryl IS hot and I don't know how I look like that o.O
Why do I need to change also just because you say so lol. We have the right to like whoever!!!!!
I don't see whats wrong with Sheryl also o.o

She's the only character with the prettiest hair, most colorful and eye capturing.

[ss1252]

So, after watching this show and then skimming through the posts to see if there were any mentions of similarities to a certain book/series, I was surprised to not find any (only looked through MF threads, didn't think to look through other Macross threads, so my bad if this has been brought up).

For those of you who have read or heard of the book Ender's Game and the rest of the books in that series by Orson Scott Card, don't you find it odd in how similar the Vajra from MF and the buggers from Ender's Game are?  Not just that, but the situation as well as well as the final battle being at their respective home planet.

Both the Vajras and the buggers are creatures that live in a hive with the queen as the main force that directs everything.  They communicate through a similar network and not by words and because of this, felt the human species were inferior in that they were "alone" because they weren't connected to each other.  This network which allows instantaneous communication is what the humans develop in Ender's Game to talk to each other across the galaxy with no time lag.  Ranka Lee is also similar to Ender aka Andrew Wiggins in that both are somehow able to communicate with the other specie and are the ones to find a way for both species to coexist.

Similarities also exist in their most powerful weapon; the MDE (dimensional eater?) from MF and the MD device from Ender's Game that consumes matter (gets bigger from the starting point, as matter is all around, a chain-reaction is set off).  The list goes on and on...

Also, there are some similarities with StarCraft as well...

[Tatsujin]

So, after watching this show and then skimming through the posts to see if there were any mentions of similarities to a certain book/series, I was surprised to not find any (only looked through MF threads, didn't think to look through other Macross threads, so my bad if this has been brought up).

For those of you who have read or heard of the book Ender's Game and the rest of the books in that series by Orson Scott Card, don't you find it odd in how similar the Vajra from MF and the buggers from Ender's Game are?  Not just that, but the situation as well as well as the final battle being at their respective home planet.

Both the Vajras and the buggers are creatures that live in a hive with the queen as the main force that directs everything.  They communicate through a similar network and not by words and because of this, felt the human species were inferior in that they were "alone" because they weren't connected to each other.  This network which allows instantaneous communication is what the humans develop in Ender's Game to talk to each other across the galaxy with no time lag.  Ranka Lee is also similar to Ender aka Andrew Wiggins in that both are somehow able to communicate with the other specie and are the ones to find a way for both species to coexist.

Similarities also exist in their most powerful weapon; the MDE (dimensional eater?) from MF and the MD device from Ender's Game that consumes matter (gets bigger from the starting point, as matter is all around, a chain-reaction is set off).  The list goes on and on...

Also, there are some similarities with StarCraft as well...

Each has it's own unique things that makes it different than the others. The first, foremost and above all, is to actually compare an anime to a real-live movie, specially to American stuff: I hate that shit. I'm sorry, I just can't stand any American movie. I've grown to stop going there now, I go with my friend to him company every Friday. I took like a month and a half off (and he gets a girlfriend, haha!).

But honestly, the movies you mentioned would barely come close to Macross Frontier. Graphics, characters, plot build, technology, and the many other things around it. Go watch Macross Zero if you haven't seen it. It's a prequel.

[Borror0]

For those of you who have read or heard of the book Ender's Game and the rest of the books in that series by Orson Scott Card, don't you find it odd in how similar the Vajra from MF and the buggers from Ender's Game are?

"I don't believe most 'new' ideas are truly new. The human race has been around for a long time. Most concepts have been stumbled upon. (In much the same way, the writer in me believes most story archetypes have been hit upon.) I believe most 'new' ideas are finding interesting ways to combine old ones. Yes, truly original thoughts happen, but I think they are very rare" -Mark Rosewater

[ss1252]

Each has it's own unique things that makes it different than the others. The first, foremost and above all, is to actually compare an anime to a real-live movie, specially to American stuff: I hate that shit. I'm sorry, I just can't stand any American movie. I've grown to stop going there now, I go with my friend to him company every Friday. I took like a month and a half off (and he gets a girlfriend, haha!).

But honestly, the movies you mentioned would barely come close to Macross Frontier. Graphics, characters, plot build, technology, and the many other things around it. Go watch Macross Zero if you haven't seen it. It's a prequel.

Lol, first of all I'm not comparing it to a movie but a book series, but not all American movies are bad  , there's a gem every now and then, haha.  Anyways, this book which started a whole series was written in the 70's, and from there has grown quite a bit.  I want to say that for people who reads quite a bit of SciFi/Fantasy books have heard of Ender or at least the author, Orson Scott Card, but that could just be me.   If you enjoy reading and have the time, I'd recommend trying the series.  Everything from the characters, to the setting, the plot, etc is well written and you might find yourself identifying with a certain character(s)...but that's what makes a movie/anime/book good right?

I was thinking about whether to watch the other Macross series before watching MF but I've read many posts that MF was okay as it is to watch as a stand alone series.  But I just might watch the others, well, Macross Zero at least.

As to what Borror0 said, I agree, novel and original ideas are rare nowadays and I'm sure most thoughts/ideas/concepts have been touched upon or another.  But after watching this series, I can't help but think that the creators have read Ender's Game and played StarCraft, haha.

[Tatsujin]

Each has it's own unique things that makes it different than the others. The first, foremost and above all, is to actually compare an anime to a real-live movie, specially to American stuff: I hate that shit. I'm sorry, I just can't stand any American movie. I've grown to stop going there now, I go with my friend to him company every Friday. I took like a month and a half off (and he gets a girlfriend, haha!).

But honestly, the movies you mentioned would barely come close to Macross Frontier. Graphics, characters, plot build, technology, and the many other things around it. Go watch Macross Zero if you haven't seen it. It's a prequel.

Lol, first of all I'm not comparing it to a movie but a book series, but not all American movies are bad  , there's a gem every now and then, haha.  Anyways, this book which started a whole series was written in the 70's, and from there has grown quite a bit.  I want to say that for people who reads quite a bit of SciFi/Fantasy books have heard of Ender or at least the author, Orson Scott Card, but that could just be me.   If you enjoy reading and have the time, I'd recommend trying the series.  Everything from the characters, to the setting, the plot, etc is well written and you might find yourself identifying with a certain character(s)...but that's what makes a movie/anime/book good right?

I was thinking about whether to watch the other Macross series before watching MF but I've read many posts that MF was okay as it is to watch as a stand alone series.  But I just might watch the others, well, Macross Zero at least.

As to what Borror0 said, I agree, novel and original ideas are rare nowadays and I'm sure most thoughts/ideas/concepts have been touched upon or another.  But after watching this series, I can't help but think that the creators have read Ender's Game and played StarCraft, haha.

If you say so. I heard a lot about Ender's game, but I'm not gonna read a book from here in America, Europe, or anywhere else.

Check Macross Zero. That's the closest relation you can get to Macross Frontier. The other ones have a little relation (designs of planes, etc).

[newy]

FYI, all the Macross series are kind of stand alone series. They have all their own stories and only references or mentionings of things happened in the old series. They do not continue a story of a previous series. There's only a meta plot.

[Borror0]

There's only a meta plot.

It's called a setting.

[newy]

Yeah, whatever. <.< Someone on Wiki used that term and it let me sound intelligent... (You'll pay dearly for humiliating me. xD)

[relic2279]

A meta plot, is a plot within a plot. A setting is where the plot takes place, no?

[Borror0]

A meta plot, is a plot within a plot. A setting is where the plot takes place, no?

A metaplot would be plot other than the plot that has consequences on the plot. For example, if we consider the Buffy series as the plot, the Angel series would be the metaplot in that what happens in it might have consequences in what happens in the Buffy series.

They also share the same setting, obviously.

In the case of the Macross series, it's a common setting where the events that happened in the past matter in the future. It cannot be a metaplot because all the events happened before or after the events of the plot (ie it's only prequels and sequels rather than simultaneous events that may have impacts one to another). If we call plots from the previous series "metaplots", then the word just rejected all its etymology since meta means "adjacent" or "exterior" and we're referencing to previous or subsequent events. Plots are not adjacent if they follow chronologically.

[relic2279]

A metaplot would be plot other than the plot that has consequences on the plot. For example, if we consider the Buffy series as the plot, the Angel series would be the metaplot in that what happens in it might have consequences in what happens in the Buffy series.

They also share the same setting, obviously.

So you're saying my definition is correct.

In the case of the Macross series, it's a common setting where the events that happened in the past matter in the future.

I wasn't talking about Macross at all, I was only trying to clarify what each word meant since I was a little foggy.

[Borror0]

So you're saying my definition is correct.

Aye.

I wasn't talking about Macross at all, I was only trying to clarify what each word meant since I was a little foggy.

I was simply clarifying it for newy.

[Tatsujin]

Macross Frontier 01-03 @ 1080p on TT. Get it while I'm seeding it.  2x OP as DDLs on the blog as well. Someone poke MTR and till him its up.

[armitron]

Throughout the series, they talk about running out of resources, but towards the end of the series, it showed Macross 11 and Macross City back on Earth. Why didn't they just go back to Earth to replenish their resources? Or get reinforcements? Anyone know?

[blubart]

well, the Frontier isn't called the 55th large-scale, super-long-distance colonization fleet without reason.
folding in the macross universe takes both time (the frontier can't jump through fold faults) and a lot of energy (which they don't have to begin with).
as they are quite far out cruising to the center of the milky way they would never make it home with the resources they have left.
they can only meet up with the Galaxy because both are on a similar path.

[Tatsujin]

Throughout the series, they talk about running out of resources, but towards the end of the series, it showed Macross 11 and Macross City back on Earth. Why didn't they just go back to Earth to replenish their resources? Or get reinforcements? Anyone know?

Why are you making a new thread when ANOTHER THREAD exists? What's with all these "title questions" threads lately? Put them in their threads. You don't need to make new threads.

Use SEARCH.

[relic2279]

Trailer for the new Macross Movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x1_uqrFMec

[XinWind]

Trailer for the new Macross Movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x1_uqrFMec

Woooooooooooooo now if only it would come out now. Anyone else excited and is going to watch it when its out?

[dbml]

Doesn't look like a continuation of the series, which is disappointing. But more Sheryl and Ranka songs?! Hell yeah, count me in!