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Offline fuddle36767

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Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« on: June 22, 2008, 07:15:05 AM »
I've been following the 'Death Note' episodes on [adult swim] and after tonight's episode was where
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I don't think I've ever seen any character in anime or movies as cold-hearted and black-souled as Light Yagami in this series.  Not even Michael Corleone at the end of 'The Godfather' could beat this.  Maybe it was because he was portrayed more favorably at the beginning.

Anyways, now to watch Code Geass next (also on cable)...

So bad...yet, so good...

Offline AceHigh

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2008, 09:59:00 AM »
Funny, Light is my hero. He is a fucking strategic genius.
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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2008, 10:47:24 AM »
Yeah, light is a hero, but he is doing the right thing wrong way :(

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2008, 11:28:16 AM »
If you want to do what Light does you have to make sacrifices, mostly in terms or other peoples' lives. I thought that what he did was the right thing.

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2008, 01:22:01 PM »
I kind of have a love hate relationship with the character.  He is kind of cool sometimes and sure he is smart but overall he is just a bastard. 

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2008, 01:33:36 PM »
He don't get my vote. I dislike Light, L and Deathnote. He reckons he's so clever, stupidest (the list is big) thing he ever did was reveal to L the deathnote itself. As long as L didn't know about it, he was pretty much taking shots in the dark about pretty much EVERYTHING. Even his suspicien about light was based on no tangable proof. Oh and the tennis match L and Light had where one was thinking 'Your Kira,' and the other was like 'This tennis match can't prove im Kira,' was ultimately retarded.

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He's 99% bastard. Also a loser since he don't have any friends and a misrable one at that since before the deathnote showed up he was as morbid as hell. I guess everything about him boils down to massive psychological issues...

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2008, 02:08:36 PM »
Uh huh.... and you're smarter than Light because....

Light was smart
L was smart
Melo was semi-smart
Near was like a retard with a blindfold in the dark shooting a shotgun at light while facing the wrong direction. He only hit light in the end because the writer decided to mess with his weapon and give him heat seeking missles (metaphorically)
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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2008, 02:39:25 PM »
Near had spoilers. Knowing what was going to happen, he could easily deduce what was going to happen, and therefore manipulate the way things were going to happen in the way he wanted to in order to get those things to happen in the manner in which he anticipated them to happen in.
 
"The script says that I'm supposed to turn the television on, see someone rallying support of Kira, and then jump to the conclusion that they are working with Kira. Okay. And it says I should also play with my Death Note collectible figurines while doing this. Okay."
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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2008, 02:48:42 PM »
Uh huh.... and you're smarter than Light because....

Light was smart
L was smart
Melo was semi-smart
Near was like a retard with a blindfold in the dark shooting a shotgun at light while facing the wrong direction. He only hit light in the end because the writer decided to mess with his weapon and give him heat seeking missles (metaphorically)

Light is smart academicly, and yet he's stupid because...

1. He gave the people looking for him a trail to follow. Like wtf? He was pretty much the invincable, uncaptureable killer. If he were't a sadistic, egomaniac who couldn't help but kill anyone looking for him, they'd never have any leads to work with. If he was so smart he'd work out even if they knew Kira was a student, even if they invistigated every student in the region, the odds of being caught would still be next to nill. His killing L's invistigators did exactly the opposite and he should have known that would be the case.

2.He decided the best course of action was to reveal the deathnote. Oh yes, smart move, get rid of your problems by giving them the biggest bit of info that revealed everything to them and puts u at a disadvantage. He thinks inside such a small box, eg:- 'I need L's name to kill him!!!' Light had the names of all the people who hang around L 24/7. Why not use all of them to go suicide bomber on him? Once they blew themselfs up and L with them all problems solved.

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2008, 03:50:31 PM »
Light was a kick ass genious! He did exactly what he said he would do -- make the world safe and himself a god. His only real flaw was that he arrogant. I will admit he was a twisted dick, but he wasn't a sadist.

Light is one of my favorite anime characters of all time (he essential is a smart version of me...who is interest in law). He doesn't do "evil" things for kicks, he does "evil" things because its what must be done. I do think he should have had Misa killed (I hated that bitch). So long as you keep him away from that 'tard (Melo) and uber'tard (Nark) Light was as close to perfect as you can get.

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"The script says that I'm supposed to turn the television on, see someone rallying support of Kira, and then jump to the conclusion that they are working with Kira. Okay. And it says I should also play with my Death Note collectible figurines while doing this. Okay."

Yep, pretty much. He may, however, have been playing with blocks, legos, army men, or licking the walls.

The things they had Nark do to show that he was smart only made he look more like a retard 12 year old in a 20 year olds body.

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2008, 04:09:03 PM »
Hes what I look for in male anime characters.
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Offline Lupich

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2008, 05:40:22 PM »
He was a bastard, but I love the fact that he never relied on self-pity or didn't cry about useless things.

What counts is that he's not emo, he has a plan, and hes determined unlike 90% of anime protagonist males.  ;)
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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2008, 06:45:05 PM »
I've been following it on [AS] as well, and yeah that struck me as rather dickish when he did that.

Also, L was so much cooler than Near. Mello is annoying and just sucks, I hate him.

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2008, 07:45:34 PM »
Discard all episodes after L's death. L dies and Light shapes the world in his image. That is how the story is supposed to be!  >:( >:( >:(

The quality went down after L's death and the story wasn't just that interesting anymore.
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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008, 08:08:37 PM »
also, the ending was fucking random, it had nothing to do with Light (The way they found that his friend had a deathnote)

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008, 10:08:26 PM »
...but I love the fact that he never relied on self-pity or didn't cry about useless things.

I never really thought about that, but you're right. Its easier to notice what goes wrong then what goes right. I took for granted how he always dealt with the situations infront of him with a calm demeanor. It was pretty much required, but still.

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2008, 08:30:11 AM »
Umm... the trail that Light left was based on his testing of the death note. It wasn't planned. Don't tell me if you found a book that said death note you'd immediately begin plotting how to use it without getting caught (assume an era BEFORE you watched this anime) I'm sure you'd probably do something like, "Let's write the name of that asshat at my school" or something.

Also, unlike most anime chars, Light doesn't go, "Hmm... what do I do?" He usually goes, "Do I do A, B or C?"

Yes his arrogance was his downfall, people don't like the ending, but it makes sense. Ryuk was to write Light's name in the book.

On another note, melo and Near seemed to be shadows of Light and L. Melo seemed to be similar to Light and L (dominantly light) and melo seemed to be a shadow of ALL the quirky side of L, but add some random autism and coin flipping. Melo geared up towards his goal and did what he needed to do. (Even if it seemed cruel etc) Near hid in the background going, what do I do now? Near's a pussy. I refuse to believe anything else.

Honestly, near and misa were the ones I hated THE MOST in this anime. Even Ray Penbar and those other random characters excited me more than those two retards.
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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2008, 01:53:52 PM »
On another note, melo and Near seemed to be shadows of Light and L. Melo seemed to be similar to Light and L (dominantly light) and melo seemed to be a shadow of ALL the quirky side of L, but add some random autism and coin flipping. Melo geared up towards his goal and did what he needed to do. (Even if it seemed cruel etc) Near hid in the background going, what do I do now? Near's a pussy. I refuse to believe anything else.

Thats very interesting. I don't exactly agree with it, but I haven't much on it either. I had always thought of Near and Melo to simply be L split in two, but that sounds pretty good as well.

I wonder where Light did go. Will be meet his father? If he meets his father is he going to get his ass kicked? "You God damn son of a bitch, I don't remember raising you to be such a bastard!"

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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2008, 02:53:32 PM »
I wonder where Light did go. Will be meet his father? If he meets his father is he going to get his ass kicked? "You God damn son of a bitch, I don't remember raising you to be such a bastard!"

No, he will return as the death god.... more wicked then ever before. He and Ryuk will both eat apples.
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Re: Light Yagami gets my vote for All-Time Bastard
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2008, 03:12:19 PM »
Crappy Shinigami apples.

"'Nathan whatever the fuck, dies by choking on small plastic toy found in a Happy Meal lunch bag'. Hah! Fuck you Near! Oh, oh...'slowly. It is found that he has been sexually molesting puzzle pieces, plastic army men, and toy cars'" Light would be very happy as a Shinigami.

Also, Ace, is that a joke or does it actually say that somewhere? All I recall was that they don't go where everyone else goes.