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xShadow:
... I personally don't think that Louise is very much a loli at all...

I mean, in terms of loli-ness, she doesn't strike me as loli; more like a flat-chested, immature, teenage girl whose voice isn't even all that squeal-ish. Now, Shana is somewhat there... but still doesn't look that "loli" to me; more the same of Louise, really.

Some pictures of Etna or Flonne (Disgaea), on the other hand, are quite there (though Flonne's voice is the only one that sounds REMOTELY loli out of the both of them...).

That's not to say I'm that crazy about loli at all, or as much an expert as some people here, but I kinda find it mysteriously optimistic that lolilovers would quantify either Louise or Shana with such high levels of loli. They just don't look or seem too loli to me... >_>

Now, I mean, this, to set the standard, is loli up the ass!!!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lolicon_Sample.png

I don't think either Shana or Louise are there...

kureshii:
I tend to think more along the lines of Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni or Lucky Star (or Kodomo No Jikan, though I haven't seen it) when the word loli comes to mind, but different people have different standards I guess.

Dakkar:
loli = undeveloped + cute

So, it's not precisely the matter of declared character's age, but the way she's presented. In other worlds, if explicit focus is put on some prepubertal traits of girls with overall attractive appearance, we can start counting points on the scale of loliness :) Funny thing is that formally even Lina Inverse is a loli character :D


--- Quote from: ETL19 on July 22, 2008, 06:45:47 AM --- /face palm...

the majority of us guys like big boobs anyway...

that an elf? i noticed the ears and w/e but didn't really be like " oh wow she really is a big breasted elf."

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Well, not all the guys are brainwashed by media :) In order to have natural big breast, girl should be of particular body type, which is quite different from being slender. If you want a thin or even frail girl girl with huge breast, there's only one way - silicon. Take a look at classic paintings - artists back when also paid tribute to large breasts (which is instinct based preference), but the women there are obviously different from nowdays models.

Elves are described as graceful, almost frail creatures with delicate features, and this is exactly the image I like. Naturally, big breasts have no place in here, as well as silicon, because elves are pretty close to nature and won't go for artificial adjustments :P

nstgc:
When I think elves I think of (a) ass kicking mages and (b) Dedolit. Dedo was probably the perfect elf from a physical and emotional stand point (she had a bad case of wonder lust, which I associate with elves).

Dakkar:

--- Quote from: nstgc on July 22, 2008, 05:49:00 PM ---When I think elves I think of (a) ass kicking mages and (b) Dedolit. Dedo was probably the perfect elf from a physical and emotional stand point (she had a bad case of wonder lust, which I associate with elves).

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Well, I think about Tolkien and D&D :) If you mean Deedlit from Lodoss thing, then it's actually a D&D adaptation, and yeah, in anime she's pretty much a model of an elf. Unfortunately, Pirotess as a model of a drow was more of a failure, but it didn't prevent her from being an interesting character.

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