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nstgc:
Simple. I like Louise and so does Proin. Obviously she's a loli. She also is a tsundere. She's small, flat chested, and cute. Especially when making the pouty face. She is 100% pure loli. Now this is like strong acid. A strong acid is one that ionizes 100% in water. So how can you tell which strong acids are stronger? You use some different measure. Similarly, Louise is 100% loli, but so is Mao (Earth Defense). I don't know how they measure the acidity of strong acids, but for loli its largely subjective. Louise lacks a completely childish face and I feel the tsundere-ness takes away from her loli score as well.

[edit] While thats the more widely used definition in anime, I much preffer this one by the way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita_(term)

This would have, at the top of the list are characters like Cosetto (Cosetto) and Mimi (Mnemosyne). They are unquestionably suppose to have a more adult appeal to them while still remaining children. This is why I don't find lolicon to be that big of a deal. If an individual in real life liked an 8 year old like Nanoha or Fate (both from Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha) then thats a bit odd (I'm talking real girls, not ones like Nanoha or Fate). Thinking someone who is post-pubescent, but still underdeveloped, while social unacceptable is still, in my opinion, within the realm of "okay". Not that I am suggesting it should be legal for a 21 year old to fuck the brains out of a 13 year old.

[edit2] I'd also like to point out that ephebophilia (sexually desiring younge people in their teens) is not considered a paraphilia and thus is not a disorder. The attraction felt by a 30 year old man towards a 12 year girl, while unacceptable in Western society, is not considered an actual problem from a psychological stand point.

psyren:

--- Quote from: nstgc on July 23, 2008, 01:06:49 AM ---I don't know how they measure the acidity of strong acids

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Universal indicator.

kureshii:

--- Quote from: nstgc on July 23, 2008, 01:06:49 AM ---I don't know how they measure the acidity of strong acids
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Or pH meters.

Like nstgc, I employ a definition of loli that is less strict. Under that definition anything with a cute, childish charm, in terms of character design and personality, qualifies. So Louise definitely qualifies, and to some extent Shana as well.

nstgc:
I was thinking more gereanly. In both cases, Psy and Hure O know that they use other chemicals and I assime they can use electricity (to messure the pH). I also assume they can just titrate it with something. I'm not sway I don't know the details, not that I know nothing,

Yeah Shana is 95% loli and a 4 of the loli scale. The cast of Sky Girls. 100% loli and 10/10.

Proin Drakenzol:

--- Quote from: xShadow on July 22, 2008, 12:22:57 PM ---http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lolicon_Sample.png

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that's borderline toddlerkon.

And to whomsoever mentioned Lina Inverse: she is indeed a loli character, both in appearance and age (she's 15)

and loli refers solely to the physical appearance of the character: shorter than normal, flat chested, flat butt, etc.

LOLI IS NOT A PERSONALITY TYPE. personality types are tsundere, yandere, etc.

loli doesn't mean innocent, either. it means a physical body indicating an apparent innocence based on perceived age, not actual innocence.

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