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Offline iakovl

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Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« on: July 28, 2008, 05:18:36 PM »
i was wandering if i should start watching Macross F (http://anidb.net/a5415)
but i want to know if i can just start watching it and understand what the hell is going on
or do i need to go and see all (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=5415) related stuff?

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2008, 05:19:16 PM »
From what I can tell, no.

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2008, 06:19:08 PM »
it might help, althrough from what I have watched so far of Macross F just watching Macross - Do You Remember Love and Macross zero would be enough (mainly because I'm starting to see links to Macross zero

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2008, 07:34:28 PM »
I asked this on another forum and they said no. :P

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2008, 08:01:34 PM »
There are some minor references now and then, but they are not that important, so there is no real need to see prequels.
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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2008, 10:30:57 PM »
macross zero is a great OVA and has good animation, a must watch if you like macross Frontier.

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2009, 11:02:10 AM »
Probably not worth a new topic, but it could be useful to point out that a group is redoing the first Macross series in much better quality.

The same is going on for the original Gundam series, [EG] Zeta Gundam and Great Mazinga.

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2009, 12:00:20 PM »
I have watched all series recently :) And no, it's not necessary. In Macross F there are scenes that pay a hommage to older series like the original 36 ep series 'SDF Macross' and the movie 'Do you remember love?' Some characters resemble ones in the original series. As omegadragon already said 'Do you remember love', 'SDF Macross' and 'Macross Zero' could be watched but aren't a must-see.
In case you want to watch the above mentioned series I recommend to read the Wikipedia-articles about Macross (or just Macross F) so that you can fully grasp the parallels^^

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Probably not worth a new topic, but it could be useful to point out that a group is redoing the first Macross series in much better quality.

The same is going on for the original Gundam series, [EG] Zeta Gundam and Great Mazinga.

How are they in comparison to W-B's work?
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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2009, 03:05:40 PM »
If you truely want to watch quality Macross
check out Macross Plus.

I have watched Macross F at least 3 times or so now but never got around to finishing it lolz. It has great animation but tward the end it gets a little stale. Not the story line the animation is sort of looped.. Meh then again i havent seen the ending so what do i know.

BUT YOU have to see Macross Plus.. Best Macross evah.. and yes i think its bettah then Macross Zero... thou that first secene when he is int he f14 is pritty hawt

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2009, 03:10:40 PM »
Watching Macross - Do You Remember Love might help ease the shock of suddenly seeing giant aliens living along side humans, since all they do is give you a quick intro at teh start of each series.

There's also a major reference to Macross Zero. Apart from that I don't think you really need to any other backstory to enjoy it (actually if you're not fussy about backstories you can just watch it without worrying too).

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2009, 12:31:49 AM »
Probably not worth a new topic, but it could be useful to point out that a group is redoing the first Macross series in much better quality.

The same is going on for the original Gundam series, [EG] Zeta Gundam and Great Mazinga.

How are they in comparison to W-B's work?
Hey, I'm Yot-chan from Galaxy Network (I handle all the translations and QC issues: A couple of other guys do all the ripping and encoding).

If you just want to SEE the original Macross show, W-B or AnimeFriends is probably a better bet. The files are smaller, and W-B has the added attraction of the English dub. But I think our rips look better, and we're using the 2008 R2 DVD remaster, which isn't as colorful as the R1 remaster, but has A LOT more detail.

As for the subs, the translation is mostly a mashup of the AnimeEigo and ADV subs, with a few additions of my own in places where I think it's necessary (for example, some of the slang that both versions use sounds a little dated. Also, occasionally a line from the show will get reused later in Frontier, and I want to make sure that the same line works in both contexts...although, admittedly, that hasn't happened yet in the series).

But really, the SDFM remaster is just the icing on the cake. The REAL reason for Galaxy Network's existence will be released soon, and I think it's going to make old-timey fans very, very happy.

Offline bfontaine

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2009, 12:40:56 AM »
Funny, I just finished watching Macross Frontier for the 4th time today...  ;D

Seriously, you can enjoy the story without watching the original Macross.  What you need to know is very well explained in the beginning of each episode.  There is a huge back story in episode 12 about Macross Zero, plus lots of small details from Macross and even Macross 7, but it's not important on the first watch.

I have watched Robotech first (when I was 12), then straight Macross Frontier and Macross Zero.  Then, I've watched the movie "Do you remember love?", Macross Plus, Macross 7 (the firsts 15 episodes are such a pain to watch) and it's movies, OVAs... to really enjoy Macross F to the fullest.

Yeah, I also consider myself a 'tard for watching it that much...  :D

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2009, 12:54:58 AM »
Yeah, the main character of Macross 7 was kinda annoying^^

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2009, 05:20:38 AM »
I recently just started watching Macross F without having watched any other macross (or indeed, any other mecha series) at all. I just read up on the wikipedia article to understand the basic condition of the universe and the origin of the name and such, and between that and the simple introductions they give at the beginning of the series, I think I understand quite enough. I know there are probably some specific references they are making that I am not getting or something, but it certainly isn't affecting my impression of the series (I am enjoying it by the way).

Later on, after all, if you watch the other series being mentioned here, you will just get all the references then and such, so what's the problem?

tl;dr, I say, Go for it!

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2009, 11:57:38 AM »
I watched Macross F before I watched the other series and I am sure the only the thing I didn't understand at first was the phrase "Yack! Deculture!" of the Zentradi. Other than that I think there wasn't any reference to the past.

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Re: Macross F, is there need to see prequels?
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2009, 12:34:34 PM »
Probably not worth a new topic, but it could be useful to point out that a group is redoing the first Macross series in much better quality.

The same is going on for the original Gundam series, [EG] Zeta Gundam and Great Mazinga.

How are they in comparison to W-B's work?
Hey, I'm Yot-chan from Galaxy Network (I handle all the translations and QC issues: A couple of other guys do all the ripping and encoding).

If you just want to SEE the original Macross show, W-B or AnimeFriends is probably a better bet. The files are smaller, and W-B has the added attraction of the English dub. But I think our rips look better, and we're using the 2008 R2 DVD remaster, which isn't as colorful as the R1 remaster, but has A LOT more detail.

As for the subs, the translation is mostly a mashup of the AnimeEigo and ADV subs, with a few additions of my own in places where I think it's necessary (for example, some of the slang that both versions use sounds a little dated. Also, occasionally a line from the show will get reused later in Frontier, and I want to make sure that the same line works in both contexts...although, admittedly, that hasn't happened yet in the series).

But really, the SDFM remaster is just the icing on the cake. The REAL reason for Galaxy Network's existence will be released soon, and I think it's going to make old-timey fans very, very happy.

Will be waiting for Galaxy to finish it. Keep it up!