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Kimi ga Nozomu Eien [Series]
Havoc10K:
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--- Quote from: Havoc10K on July 15, 2009, 05:05:26 AM ---l know she has her reasons to be a pain, (click to show/hide)but she is the main reason in the anime that they didn't get along in the end and broke up, she basicaly stole him, she felt guilty for the girl but that didn't stop her, if you belive in heaven and hell she goes down the bucket if you ask me, in the anime she betrayed her quite a few times, only because she didn't have the courage to confess her own feelings to him in the begining
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I think, after explaining it to myself (yeah laugh it up, I talk to myself all the time) that I finally understand why the characters did what they did in this anime: (click at your own risk. Massive spoilers, lots of typing, and some rants) (click to show/hide) Takayuki and Hayase were both racked with guilt since they both truly believed that Haruka's coma was their faults; however, Hayase didn't just hurt Haruka with her actions, she hurt Takayuki as well (whom she was in love with). Feeling bad about this and trying to amend for some of her guilt she begins taking care of Takayuki who is uber depressed about Haruka being in a coma. Hayase finds that she is falling more and more in love with Takayuki every day, but he doesn't return her feelings. The only way she really knows how to help Takayuki is by becoming a 'Haruka replacement'. When she becomes this replacement, Takayuki begins to turn things around and actually seems to be in love with Hayase. Things are going seemingly well until!!!!!(dramatic music)!!!!!!Haruka wakes up from the coma.
Takayuki quickly begins to shove Hayese to the side in order to be with Haruka, unfortunately Hayese had fallen even deeper in love with him over this time and was under the impression that she had become more that a Haruka replacement. She didn't handle being tossed to the side by Takayuki very well. Takayuki doesn't seem to notice how badly he has made Hayase feel and he now has Haruka back so things are looking up for him. For Hayase however, she can't even look at Haruka because she feel guilt for sending her into the coma, she feels guilt for falling in love with Takayuki while Haruka was asleep, she feels defeated and broken down, and she also feels heartbreak since Takayuki has rejected her completely.
More drama happens here and there. Then at the end, Takayuki thinks he is making the right decision in being with Haruka, but Haruka knows otherwise. Haruka's life has stopped 3 years in the past, and while she may be losing a boyfriend and recovering from a tragic accident, Takayuki would be losing everything that happened to him over the past 3 years. It has become impossible for Takayuki to be with Haruka and be completely happy. Instead, Haruka does the most selfless thing and gives him the closure he had needed for the past 3 years by sending him off. With no obstacles left in his way he realizes that Hayase had been there for him all those times and that he really did love her. The only true way for everyone to be happy was for him to be with Hayase.
Think of it this way. To be with Haruka meant Takayuki would be striving to get back into college, get that great job, have the great girlfriend, and generally have a great life, but in order to do that he would have to leave another person that he loved, hurt her, and even try to forget all the things that happened in the past 3 years. To be with Hayase meant a mediocre house, a mediocre job, and generally a mediocre life, but he would be with someone he loved. How long did he date Haruka for before the coma? A few weeks? a few months maybe? Haruka has a much better chance of restarting her life since she hasn't been awake for the past 3 years. Even though she may always love Takayuki, she understands that she has the greater chance of still being happy if she is the one that gets left behind. And I think I have to agree with her.
<-- Just received the series less than 24 hours ago, and finished the series over an hour ago lol.
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yet in all that, (click to show/hide)if Hayase didn't stall Takayuki all those times, Haruka wouldn't be in a coma to begin with.
she was doing the most ridiculusly selfish things because she was a coward unable to convey her feelings on him, the accident gave her a bad push, she even had sex with their best friend, if you think about it, she had sex so often to forget the accident, not to quell her guilt, she was able to not think about this for the moment, all the time she was a coward, if she simply gave up on him, she would have a great life, she could be in the olimpics as a swimmer, she could have an amazing life, all that Haruka wanted is to make picture books for kids, and the rest of the friends had an incredible futures ahead of them, she would've made that picture book anyways, she just didn't want to suffer anymore.
btw, youre not the only one talking to yourself, we call it "Conversing with the most apropriate intelligent person"
l do that often ;]
dbml:
Blah. I don't care what anyone says!
(click to show/hide)I will always side with Mitsuki Hayase for two reasons. One, she is incredibly hot. And two, she's one of the most realistic and understandable characters I've ever seen in an anime.
Havoc10K:
--- Quote from: dbml on July 15, 2009, 06:19:26 AM ---Blah. I don't care what anyone says!
(click to show/hide)I will always side with Mitsuki Hayase for two reasons. One, she is incredibly hot. And two, she's one of the most realistic and understandable characters I've ever seen in an anime.
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every anime has one such character, it narrows what you watch tbh.
yeh shes hot, but there are ppl that look for more than looks, for me, a personality is very important, and she has a bad personality, l don't like ppl like her, cowards and traitors. if thats your prefference, good luck.
dbml:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on July 15, 2009, 06:22:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: dbml on July 15, 2009, 06:19:26 AM ---Blah. I don't care what anyone says!
(click to show/hide)I will always side with Mitsuki Hayase for two reasons. One, she is incredibly hot. And two, she's one of the most realistic and understandable characters I've ever seen in an anime.
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every anime has one such character, it narrows what you watch tbh.
yeh shes hot, but there are ppl that look for more than looks, for me, a personality is very important, and she has a bad personality, l don't like ppl like her, cowards and traitors. if thats your prefference, good luck.
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Really? I thought she had a great personality. She made very rational (and irrational) decisions that a real person would make. I can't fault her for anything she did. I sympathize with her feelings. I found her to be one of the more "human" characters... most are either too perfect or too stupid. She was far more real.
Aneroph:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on July 15, 2009, 05:52:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: anerph on July 15, 2009, 05:41:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on July 15, 2009, 05:05:26 AM ---l know she has her reasons to be a pain, (click to show/hide)but she is the main reason in the anime that they didn't get along in the end and broke up, she basicaly stole him, she felt guilty for the girl but that didn't stop her, if you belive in heaven and hell she goes down the bucket if you ask me, in the anime she betrayed her quite a few times, only because she didn't have the courage to confess her own feelings to him in the begining
--- End quote ---
I think, after explaining it to myself (yeah laugh it up, I talk to myself all the time) that I finally understand why the characters did what they did in this anime: (click at your own risk. Massive spoilers, lots of typing, and some rants) (click to show/hide) Takayuki and Hayase were both racked with guilt since they both truly believed that Haruka's coma was their faults; however, Hayase didn't just hurt Haruka with her actions, she hurt Takayuki as well (whom she was in love with). Feeling bad about this and trying to amend for some of her guilt she begins taking care of Takayuki who is uber depressed about Haruka being in a coma. Hayase finds that she is falling more and more in love with Takayuki every day, but he doesn't return her feelings. The only way she really knows how to help Takayuki is by becoming a 'Haruka replacement'. When she becomes this replacement, Takayuki begins to turn things around and actually seems to be in love with Hayase. Things are going seemingly well until!!!!!(dramatic music)!!!!!!Haruka wakes up from the coma.
Takayuki quickly begins to shove Hayese to the side in order to be with Haruka, unfortunately Hayese had fallen even deeper in love with him over this time and was under the impression that she had become more that a Haruka replacement. She didn't handle being tossed to the side by Takayuki very well. Takayuki doesn't seem to notice how badly he has made Hayase feel and he now has Haruka back so things are looking up for him. For Hayase however, she can't even look at Haruka because she feel guilt for sending her into the coma, she feels guilt for falling in love with Takayuki while Haruka was asleep, she feels defeated and broken down, and she also feels heartbreak since Takayuki has rejected her completely.
More drama happens here and there. Then at the end, Takayuki thinks he is making the right decision in being with Haruka, but Haruka knows otherwise. Haruka's life has stopped 3 years in the past, and while she may be losing a boyfriend and recovering from a tragic accident, Takayuki would be losing everything that happened to him over the past 3 years. It has become impossible for Takayuki to be with Haruka and be completely happy. Instead, Haruka does the most selfless thing and gives him the closure he had needed for the past 3 years by sending him off. With no obstacles left in his way he realizes that Hayase had been there for him all those times and that he really did love her. The only true way for everyone to be happy was for him to be with Hayase.
Think of it this way. To be with Haruka meant Takayuki would be striving to get back into college, get that great job, have the great girlfriend, and generally have a great life, but in order to do that he would have to leave another person that he loved, hurt her, and even try to forget all the things that happened in the past 3 years. To be with Hayase meant a mediocre house, a mediocre job, and generally a mediocre life, but he would be with someone he loved. How long did he date Haruka for before the coma? A few weeks? a few months maybe? Haruka has a much better chance of restarting her life since she hasn't been awake for the past 3 years. Even though she may always love Takayuki, she understands that she has the greater chance of still being happy if she is the one that gets left behind. And I think I have to agree with her.
<-- Just received the series less than 24 hours ago, and finished the series over an hour ago lol.
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yet in all that, (click to show/hide)if Hayase didn't stall Takayuki all those times, Haruka wouldn't be in a coma to begin with.
she was doing the most ridiculusly selfish things because she was a coward unable to convey her feelings on him, the accident gave her a bad push, she even had sex with their best friend, if you think about it, she had sex so often to forget the accident, not to quell her guilt, she was able to not think about this for the moment, all the time she was a coward, if she simply gave up on him, she would have a great life, she could be in the olimpics as a swimmer, she could have an amazing life, all that Haruka wanted is to make picture books for kids, and the rest of the friends had an incredible futures ahead of them, she would've made that picture book anyways, she just didn't want to suffer anymore.
btw, youre not the only one talking to yourself, we call it "Conversing with the most apropriate intelligent person"
l do that often ;]
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I have to disagree with you Havoc. (click to show/hide)The crash was no one's fault. Things like that just happen. What if Takayuki had made it on time? He might be in a coma as well, or even dead. Maybe all of them make it on time and now their all dead or in comas. Placing blame on a freak accident like that is never a good idea, but it inevitably someone feels it was partly their fault. Even Haruka wouldn't have wanted either of them to be blamed for what happened to her, even if she knew why Takayuki was held up.
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