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altlavista:
--- Quote from: Steve Basnof on April 28, 2009, 10:15:05 PM ---What are you talking about? I don't know what translation you're reading of the manga but I'm sure you're getting caught up in the alternate meanings of English words being used to attempt to express what is said in Japanese. In the scanlation I'm reading Ulquiorra is talking about the human "heart", not the "soul". I think reading a translation that uses the word 'heart' would make things make a lot more sense to you.
http://read.mangashare.com/Bleach/chapter-354/page001.html
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yes, exactly! it's the heart, the source of emotions and all that stuff. and hollows (that probably means arrancars too) are driven only by hatred/loneliness (so no tender feelings) and so cannot understand what it is to be a human...
Penthero:
--- Quote from: altlavista on April 29, 2009, 08:21:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Steve Basnof on April 28, 2009, 10:15:05 PM ---What are you talking about? I don't know what translation you're reading of the manga but I'm sure you're getting caught up in the alternate meanings of English words being used to attempt to express what is said in Japanese. In the scanlation I'm reading Ulquiorra is talking about the human "heart", not the "soul". I think reading a translation that uses the word 'heart' would make things make a lot more sense to you.
http://read.mangashare.com/Bleach/chapter-354/page001.html
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yes, exactly! it's the heart, the source of emotions and all that stuff. and hollows (that probably means arrancars too) are driven only by hatred/loneliness (so no tender feelings) and so cannot understand what it is to be a human...
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But doesn't hollows come from humans from the beginning?
zherok:
--- Quote from: Penthero on April 29, 2009, 01:48:24 PM ---But doesn't hollows come from humans from the beginning?
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They're the souls of humans who've dwelled too long on negative emotions or something. Also, assuming the author hasn't forgotten, all higher forms of hollow are actually collections of these souls. If any one of them retains it's personality, it can continue to grow into the greater forms/sidestep into an arrancar.
Nikran:
--- Quote from: zherok on April 29, 2009, 02:02:08 PM ---They're the souls of humans who've dwelled too long on negative emotions or something. Also, assuming the author hasn't forgotten, all higher forms of hollow are actually collections of these souls. If any one of them retains it's personality, it can continue to grow into the greater forms/sidestep into an arrancar.
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Hmm, with the current state of this manga i think the author prolly ditched the original course it was taking. now we are heading into chaotic and retarded territory, so be prepaired =P
mgz:
--- Quote from: Steve Basnof on April 28, 2009, 10:15:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: dankles on April 28, 2009, 04:08:18 PM ---Ichigo will turn back into that evil hallow 2nd form again then kill everyone and the story will end.
Thats a prophecy from urs truly 8)
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I will politely clap for the show if that happens. :)
--- Quote from: mgz on April 28, 2009, 06:47:32 PM ---i still dont get why he couldnt understand the concept of a soul, arent hollows and shinigami in general personifications of souls
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What are you talking about? I don't know what translation you're reading of the manga but I'm sure you're getting caught up in the alternate meanings of English words being used to attempt to express what is said in Japanese. In the scanlation I'm reading Ulquiorra is talking about the human "heart", not the "soul". I think reading a translation that uses the word 'heart' would make things make a lot more sense to you.
http://read.mangashare.com/Bleach/chapter-354/page001.html
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memory fail that was all, lol coulda sworn orihime had said souls were connected but hearts connected works too, in the context of my memory either one works.
And if he ripped her chest open yes there would be heart, because heart = organ in the human body she should have told him that she meant thoughts/feelings maybe then he wouldnt have been confused
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