Discussion Forums > Politics
Gaza showdown
AceHigh:
--- Quote from: SpeedKills on January 30, 2009, 08:19:34 PM ---But the civilians who live there aren't even allowed to flee or anything... how can that be moral in any way?
--- End quote ---
Good question. Very good one I admit. My question is why Egypt - who is supporting Palestinians not allowing refugees into the city? The only theory is that countries surrounding Israel want people in Gaza to be there and be slaughtered so that they can have a casus belli to attack Israel. They have it now and if the support of Israel will drop, then they will attack as soon as they have world wide support against Israel. It's a cynical and heartless strategy, but a very good one as well.
--- Quote ---I concede that I don't know a whole hell of a lot about Israeli history, because I always just though of them as one of America's spoiled children :p
--- End quote ---
Try Great Britain and France. USA became a very close ally only later in the history.
--- Quote ---And i guess you could keep going back for hundreds of years if I said, "well, Israel did THIS before Hamas did THAT". lol
--- End quote ---
Exactly, that is why this war is not about who is right and who is wrong, but about who is strongest and who will survive.
SpeedKills:
What sucks is that, living in America, you're either ridiculously pro-Israel, or you're called an anti-Semite because you're ridiculously anti-Israel..
For once, I wish the US would be a dick and put each side in a corner... But we continue to finance Israel and make no official condemnation of it.
relic2279:
The US gives money to it's allies. Enemies of our enemies are our friends. Iran as well as other countries like Sudan give money to the Hamas. Iran may not be our enemy at this point, but they are close enough.
Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Funding
And they more then likely funnel weapons to them etc. I don't doubt, and it would be idiotic to believe they are not also getting illegally funding from other anti-western fronts. You have to understand, these people don't want peace. They want the death of the western culture. It's in their charter. They want to live in the stone age for all intents and purposes.
I am a bleeding heart liberal leftist, and even I won't support the Hamas. I am not pro-jewish, and I am not anti-muslim. I am pro-common sense.
SpeedKills:
Damn, didn't know all that...
I always try to find a rational side to be on, but in this case, I think I'd rather they both just explode, lol.
AceHigh:
Personally I am pro Israel because no matter how they act, they are our first line of defence. I am talking about Europe of course, second line would be Greece I believe. They are the only European country without the freedom of religion. No matter how wrong this seems ideally, these two countries do keep the muslim world at bay. Basically Israel is putting it's citizens at risk and pay the price of our western culture with their blood. If there is anything we can do to give them support, we should do so. It is a cruel and draconian reality.
However historically when we did not have enough defences and buffer zones against the spread of Islam it ended with loosing Europe's biggest city at the time, a jewel of a metropolis called Constantinople. Now it is called Istanbul and has a freaking crescent on rooftops. If I would have the power, I would obliterate the Turkey, push them back and retake what is ours.
That being said I am sympathetic with Jews who have exactly the same goal. I wonder why they called their country "Israel" instead of Judea though.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version