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UMMX:
--- Quote from: kureshii on February 20, 2009, 03:22:44 AM ---Both Char's Counterattack and F91 BDs are remastered IIRC, but I'm too lazy to check it up at the moment (maybe later).
CCA and F91 trump 00 in animation because it looks much more natural, and moves much more smoothly. Fights/battles are also better-choreographed, and doesn't have too much of that boring lasers-and-clashing-melee nonsense. In still screens 00 definitely looks much better, but when in motion it doesn't look quite as pretty >_<
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Okay I will agree that UC does have Better-choreographed and more detail into it fights. BUt 00 does do pretty laser beam and does have great clashing-melee battles. I will agree that the fighting does get on my nervers but it should be a little hard to kill the enemy.
kureshii:
--- Quote from: UMMX on February 22, 2009, 08:40:33 PM ---Okay I will agree that UC does have Better-choreographed and more detail into it fights. But 00 does do pretty laser beam and does have great clashing-melee battles. I will agree that the fighting does get on my nervers but it should be a little hard to kill the enemy.
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Lasers? You mean beams...? Beams (in animation) haven't changed much in appearance over the past decade or so... but those GN particle effects are nice. And I loved the C.G. work on the Ptolemios. Considering 00 was made at least 15 years after both CCA and F91 we should expect at least as much ;)
But I can't agree on the "clashing-melee" battles. It still doesn't match up to UC standards IMO. I'm still seeing lots of standard, cliched moves, and nothing impressive so far. Whether this reflects more poorly on the fighting standard of the Meisters, or on the show's fight choreographers, I don't know.
UMMX:
--- Quote from: kureshii on February 22, 2009, 11:13:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: UMMX on February 22, 2009, 08:40:33 PM ---Okay I will agree that UC does have Better-choreographed and more detail into it fights. But 00 does do pretty laser beam and does have great clashing-melee battles. I will agree that the fighting does get on my nervers but it should be a little hard to kill the enemy.
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Lasers? You mean beams...? Beams (in animation) haven't changed much in appearance over the past decade or so... but those GN particle effects are nice. And I loved the C.G. work on the Ptolemios. Considering 00 was made at least 15 years after both CCA and F91 we should expect at least as much ;)
But I can't agree on the "clashing-melee" battles. It still doesn't match up to UC standards IMO. I'm still seeing lots of standard, cliched moves, and nothing impressive so far. Whether this reflects more poorly on the fighting standard of the Meisters, or on the show's fight choreographers, I don't know.
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I just blame the Meister! I mean come on It not that hard to kill somebody just pull-the-fucking-trigger. I do wish they would kill there enemies faster but it not to bad to have clashing-melee sometime it good to have a grudge match. Dont you want to see which gundam arm is going to torn to bits first?
kureshii:
Speaking of grudge matches...
"KIRAAAAAAAA!!!"
"ASURANNNNN!!!"
"KIRAAAAAAAA!!!"
"ASURANNNN!!!"
"KIRAAAAAAAA!!!"
"ASURANNNNNNN!!!"
...
and one season later...
"SHINNNNNNNNN!!!!"
"ASURANNNNNNN!!!"
"SHINNNNNNNNN!!!!"
"ASURANNNNNNN!!!"
"SHINNNNNNNNN!!!!"
"ASURANNNNNNN!!!"
Grudge matches? No thanks. Unless it's going to be the kind fought between Kou Uraki and Anavel Gato, Kamille Bidan and Jerid Messa, or [insert other classic UC match pair]. Apart from Amuro vs. Char, sicne everyone probably has that in mind already.
Clash-and-hold melee needs to start dying from the mecha genre. It's almost never used outside of a I-need-some-time-to-speak-to-you-in-a-battle-so-let's-clash-swords context.
UMMX:
--- Quote from: kureshii on February 23, 2009, 06:42:44 AM ---Speaking of grudge matches...
"KIRAAAAAAAA!!!"
"ASURANNNNN!!!"
"KIRAAAAAAAA!!!"
"ASURANNNN!!!"
"KIRAAAAAAAA!!!"
"ASURANNNNNNN!!!"
...
and one season later...
"SHINNNNNNNNN!!!!"
"ASURANNNNNNN!!!"
"SHINNNNNNNNN!!!!"
"ASURANNNNNNN!!!"
"SHINNNNNNNNN!!!!"
"ASURANNNNNNN!!!"
Grudge matches? No thanks. Unless it's going to be the kind fought between Kou Uraki and Anavel Gato, Kamille Bidan and Jerid Messa, or [insert other classic UC match pair]. Apart from Amuro vs. Char, sicne everyone probably has that in mind already.
Clash-and-hold melee needs to start dying from the mecha genre. It's almost never used outside of a I-need-some-time-to-speak-to-you-in-a-battle-so-let's-clash-swords context.
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LOOLOLL
Well maybe so But you know Amuro VS Char started the hole Clash-melee fighting style. They keep going after each over and over again so it really UC fault that we have it to this day.
Also did you guys see 00 that what i call pulling-the-fucking-trigger. If Gundam show did that after every Clash-melee everybody would want of them.
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