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iindigo:

--- Quote from: Dragoon AceHigh on January 27, 2009, 06:03:56 PM ---Holy shit that is cheap, here they start at about 100USD and go up to 150USD if I want eSATA features. So stop whining, buy an external and don't keep stash on your OS drive  ;)

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No, I'm literally broke - as in $0 broke >_> That will change when my college loans come in, though... plan to get myself a nice desktop setup with a number of internal drives if possible.

Back on topic - Will Windows 7 finally graduate from NTFS or will Windows users have to stick with the creaky old filesystem for years to come?

Reinvent:
I actually read most of the seven pages and I can say topics changed like ... something that changes a lot...

Anyways... I would like to try Windows 7 when it is finalized, since it seems much improved: OSX and PC are both good for our anime, but OSX isn't compatible with all our games, unless you are counting Bootcamp: there are games for PC, for consoles, and for both: why not put everything on one partition or HD if you have space?

AceHigh:

--- Quote from: iindigo on January 27, 2009, 06:18:45 PM ---No, I'm literally broke - as in $0 broke >_> That will change when my college loans come in, though... plan to get myself a nice desktop setup with a number of internal drives if possible.
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So my theory about mac users being unemployed was true  ;D


--- Quote ---Back on topic - Will Windows 7 finally graduate from NTFS or will Windows users have to stick with the creaky old filesystem for years to come?
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I did let it slide last time I saw that, now I have to ask: what is wrong with NTFS? It supports twice the size of the files compared to HFS+, superior encryption and security features, better time stamp rate, single instance storage... It is robust and works well.

kyanwan:
Sweet vindication.   I've said all along:  Vista blows.   Not just because it was blah - and I generally have a deep-seated disdain for Microsoft ... but because technically - under the hood - it sure as hell did. 

Enough said about that - I don't need to delve into the reasons ( largest - being it's an absolute pig and eating 1GB of ram for just a shitty OS to run. )

I said - happily - with my still unused Vista Premium COA sitting in a box ... I'll stick with XP.   

And - lo & behold - Microsoft has seen the light.   +1 for them.

The more I hear about Win7 - the more I want to see the next Windows 98/2000.

Know.   

They're living up to their BS these days.

They've got a hit.   They've got a miss, then a hit built off that miss.   

Win95 = shit.
Win98 = Killer.
WinME = shit
Win2K = Killer
WinXP = Wait ... I just killed my own theory!
Vista = Rancid Maggot-infested Shit
Win7 = (?, but it's looking killer so far.)

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NTFS is good for my purposes.  It's never failed me yet.  The only thing I could possibly more - is Unix-like robust permissions and enhanced file security.

The defragmenting thing ...

Yeah. 

Back when I thought I knew shit about computers I cared about Defragmenting.  Now - I just find it to be a waste of a few hours.

These days - I just buy a new hard drive or delete shit.

Or better yet - stick with having a few GB free on the drive.

And even better yet: 
Keep a dedicated OS drive/partition - with plenty of free space.
( Notice how guided Linux installs suggest you to do the above. )

And finally - the anti-pack-rat rule.

If I haven't used it for 6-12 months, I'll probably never use it again.  Trash.  Works wonders.   If you're living with a nearly full & fragmented drive these days - you really need to take that hard drive, drill a hole through it then smash it with a sledgehammer - and get a bigger drive.  There's no excuse to have no space.  ( Before you embarrass yourself - don't attempt to explain fragmentation to me.  I know more about it than you do. )

iindigo:

--- Quote from: Dragoon AceHigh on January 27, 2009, 07:17:50 PM ---So my theory about mac users being unemployed was true  ;D
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Only because this town I'm living next to is really damn poor, full of old people, and doesn't have very many jobs that are worth a damn. I can't commute, either, since I can't drive.


--- Quote from: Dragoon AceHigh on January 27, 2009, 07:17:50 PM ---I did let it slide last time I saw that, now I have to ask: what is wrong with NTFS? It supports twice the size of the files compared to HFS+, superior encryption and security features, better time stamp rate, single instance storage... It is robust and works well.

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I'm not worried about Apple's decisions on filesystems since they've been prepping for a transition to ZFS for a while now (might even happen as soon as 10.6). HFS+ has served me pretty solidly, anyway.

It may just be a side-effect of Windows itself, but NTFS has always felt a little flakey to me. I've had it do things like make normal, unhidden files stored on a perfectly good drive show up just fine on one system and then pretend to not even exist when hooked up to another. Other than that, I don't really know how to describe it. It's not the drives I'm using, either - the same exact drives work fine when formatted with ext2/3 or HFS+...

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