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sdedalus83:

--- Quote from: costi on February 08, 2009, 07:19:22 PM ---
--- Quote --- intel forced microsoft to lower the vista capable branding so that intel graphics can be used when it fact they cannot?
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Dunno about you, but on my Intel X3100 Aero worked like a charm. It does in Win7 as well.

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It was the GMA950 GPU, still used in the vast majority of budget systems at Vista's launch, that pissed everyone off with its Vista Capable branding, not the X3000.


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--- Quote ---What kind of business stuff can't Linux run? or at least have an equal counter part application (there are a few, but most can be matched by linux).
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Microsoft Office. Open Office fails epically when it comes to something just a little more complicated than plain text.

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Sure, if you expect it to be a drop in replacement for MS Office.  If you actually take the time to learn how to use it (just as you did when you started using MS Office), then you'll find the capabilities quite similar, even with macros.


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--- Quote ---Because it hasn't been release yet, no one *really* knows.
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Damn, the beta I'm using for over a month must be my imagination, then...

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You're using the public, free, internet distributed Beta.  I don't see how you have any insight into how the copy protection scheme in the production version will function.

costi:

--- Quote ---Sure, if you expect it to be a drop in replacement for MS Office.  If you actually take the time to learn how to use it (just as you did when you started using MS Office), then you'll find the capabilities quite similar, even with macros.
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I don't care about controls, what I care about is portability between OOo and MSO, and that sucks.
Let me give you an example - I did the charts for my M.Sc. thesis in Excel. Overall it was about 20 charts and about 50k cells of data and corresponding calculations.
It was created in Excel 2003.

The results were (all tested on one machine, a different one than the one used to create the document):
Excel 2003: took about 10 seconds to open, no problems
Excel 2007: about 3 seonds, no problems
OpenOffice.org: 10 minutes (yes, minutes), all the charts were FUBAR

I didn't even try to open the thesis itself...

From my experience, OOo is good if you need to create a CV or write a letter. For any serious work, it just fails. It's too slow and compatibility with MSO is random.

sdedalus83:

--- Quote from: costi on February 08, 2009, 09:53:47 PM ---
--- Quote ---Sure, if you expect it to be a drop in replacement for MS Office.  If you actually take the time to learn how to use it (just as you did when you started using MS Office), then you'll find the capabilities quite similar, even with macros.
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I don't care about controls, what I care about is portability between OOo and MSO, and that sucks.
Let me give you an example - I did the charts for my M.Sc. thesis in Excel. Overall it was about 20 charts and about 50k cells of data and corresponding calculations.
It was created in Excel 2003.

The results were (all tested on one machine, a different one than the one used to create the document):
Excel 2003: took about 10 seconds to open, no problems
Excel 2007: about 3 seonds, no problems
OpenOffice.org: 10 minutes (yes, minutes), all the charts were FUBAR

I didn't even try to open the thesis itself...

From my experience, OOo is good if you need to create a CV or write a letter. For any serious work, it just fails. It's too slow and compatibility with MSO is random.

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Blame Microsoft for portability; they're the ones who are creating that problem.  OOo doesn't suit your specific needs due to problems with reading a proprietary file format, but that has nothing to do with actual capabilities.  Sometimes it works the other way.  I was working on a project updating technical manuals, almost all of which were 10 years old and saved in an archaic format that Word couldn't read.  OOo could read the files, saving me a hell of a lot of time and effort.

mgz:
at this point its kinda silly to argue, a vast majority of businesses use either corels software or microsofts for the likes of excel powerpoint and word
the fact that they have yet to develop something in open office to properly run such a massive proprietary format is quite the large negative.

iindigo:
All this hubbub over office suites has me wondering one thing; while the hell isn't there a spreadsheet equivalent to RTF? You know, just a simple styled table file, openable by about anything...


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