Author Topic: Windows 7 and general bitching about OSes (Read 102184 times)

Cloud20200 · « **Reply #60 on:** January 11, 2009, 02:01:26 AM »

I'm a recent Linux user, I finally broke out of the windows circle because I was just sick of the way microsoft are going, everything they currently make seems to take up more and more resources for no reason and it really gets on my nerves, I love the way ubuntu feels and how it feels safer and more reliable to use nevermind the fact its so much faster, I don't think I'll ever use another Windows OS because I only go on XP for games infact I don't even use the internet on windows, my wireless card is mostly disabled because why let everything update when I want to get everything out of my sempron 2400+ I can. I won't use vista cause its just the boy that cried wolf and will complain about everything, it looks horrible but that doesn't matter because I use windows classic anyway. I don't care about directX 10, honestly the only difference I've seen on screenshots is stuff like smoke. That is not enough to make me run it. As for linux I do everything else on ubuntu, I don't use wine apart from my portable apps when I'm installing them on my PSP memory card, also I've never run any other kind of linux cause I only tried it in November so freely offer an alternative.

Also you might be pleased to know iindigo, I'm 16

fohfoh · « **Reply #61 on:** January 11, 2009, 03:26:39 AM »

I recently went to ubuntu myself. The only problem I have that bothers me is the battery life. Not being able to set up the memory stick drive, hibernate not working, but standby working is also fine. Not being able to use both my graphics card (turbo cache) is ok too.

However, I'm really waiting for release version 9.04. I wouldn't mind grabbing a crap copy of XP to use either (I totally got rid of vista because it sucked and was killing stuff left right and centre.)

sdedalus83 · « **Reply #62 on:** January 11, 2009, 03:44:27 AM »

Quote from: fohfoh on January 11, 2009, 03:26:39 AM

(I totally got rid of vista because it sucked and was killing stuff left right and centre.)

Like the drive it's installed on.

Gentoo is awesome, but you really need a decent internet connection for it to be worthwhile. Ubuntu is okay until you start wanting to use a lot of the Debian packages not in the Ubuntu repositories, at which point things start getting a little rocky.

nstgc · « **Reply #63 on:** January 11, 2009, 04:48:26 AM »

If I can't get it in the repository, I install from source. It takes longer, but I may as well.

As for UI, I wish you could have at least three different GUIs. The "classic" and its themes, something "Mac-ish" and the Spartan Special.

Most importantly, I want to see an icon box. Xfce has one, I thing OSX does (I know the OSX-like dock I use does), and Aston (for XP) makes one that comes with its virtual desktop thing. I'm much better at picking out pictures then I am hunting for text on a task bar. Get rid of the text and make the icon larger.

fohfoh · « **Reply #64 on:** January 11, 2009, 05:25:36 AM »

The learning curve isn't too bad for ubuntu now. I actually like the way it is. You have to learn a little bit, but it's set up in a way where it's not too hard and you actually begin to understand at a deeper level how your OS works. (windows is more of a it works, it works. OSX is more, it works, just use it)

iindigo · « **Reply #65 on:** January 11, 2009, 12:47:31 PM »

Quote from: nstgc on January 11, 2009, 04:48:26 AM

If I can't get it in the repository, I install from source. It takes longer, but I may as well.

As for UI, I wish you could have at least three different GUIs. The "classic" and its themes, something "Mac-ish" and the Spartan Special.

Most importantly, I want to see an icon box. Xfce has one, I thing OSX does (I know the OSX-like dock I use does), and Aston (for XP) makes one that comes with its virtual desktop thing. I'm much better at picking out pictures then I am hunting for text on a task bar. Get rid of the text and make the icon larger.

What do you mean by icon box? The area that windows are minimized to? If so, then yes the OS X dock features that. Windows are minimized to icon form to the rightmost side of the dock, between your documents/folders and the trash.

Quote from: fohfoh on January 11, 2009, 05:25:36 AM

The learning curve isn't too bad for ubuntu now. I actually like the way it is. You have to learn a little bit, but it's set up in a way where it's not too hard and you actually begin to understand at a deeper level how your OS works. (windows is more of a it works, it works. OSX is more, it works, just use it)

I agree about ubuntu, but I wouldn't be so sure about OS X. It might just be because I'm an inquisitive type when it comes to OSes, but I learned so damn much in the course of using OS X.

Before OS X came out, I used Mac OS 9 like every other Mac user out there. I knew how to use it well, and I could mod its system files with ease, but when it came to using any other OS I was pretty dumb. Commandlines of any type, for example, were a huge, frightening void.

Then OS X 10.0 comes out. It's slow, doesn't have many apps for it yet, and is still buggy, but damn it looks a lot nicer than OS 9 did. It could also run more than one or two apps at once without crashing (unlike OS 9) - "what a revolution!" I thought to myself. Because of that, I stuck with OS X despite the bugs and reduced speed.

Since then, I have poked around in the internals of the OS many, many times and have become very familiar with the commandline. In fact, many of my daily tasks, such as uploading stuff to my web host via FTP and torrenting, are done completely with the Terminal. I'm starting to lean towards it for file management too, since it's at times faster than using the Finder or any other UI. OS X also acquainted me with a lot of terms that OS 9 just didn't bother with.

So yeah, it actually taught me a lot.

lollero45 · « **Reply #66 on:** January 11, 2009, 09:13:12 PM »

I have windows 7 intalled now on my other computer, it looks very good, it works faster and better than windows XP and all the programs seems to work fine too.
I really think that windows 7 has a bright future, compared with vista...

nstgc · « **Reply #67 on:** January 11, 2009, 10:48:16 PM »

Quote from: lollero45 on January 11, 2009, 09:13:12 PM

I really think that windows 7 has a bright future, compared with vista...

Jarudin · « **Reply #68 on:** January 12, 2009, 01:06:14 AM »

Maybe a bit late but I thought I'd share it:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/2088311 Windows 7 in VMWare, so you don't have to wipe your harddisk if you want to take a peek

Details can be found on the mininova page.

--Jarudin--

MTR · « **Reply #69 on:** January 12, 2009, 01:30:55 PM »

I personally am in love with Windows 7. I am currently using it as my main operating system and I like it a ton more than Vista Home Premium. I have not had any crashes yet since I have installed it which is more than I could ever begin to say about Vista. Upon the installation all of my hardware (including my new TV tuner) were all recognized and installed automatically, while both Vista and XP required me to install drivers that were not included. That's a big selling point for me as it's one of the biggest annoyances for me when installing an OS; having to go through and locate and install the drivers that didn't come with the OS installation after installing it. I also love the superbar's new minimized window and window preview setup. Not only does it make porn much easier to hide while it's open...it also makes the screen much cleaner and I love being able to hover over a window icon and see it maximized on my screen without actually switching over to that window. I actually found that it makes doing homework for online classes a lot faster.

I am hoping they end up releasing Beta 2 and the RC's to the public once they are done, but if they are anything as good as Windows 7 is, I am sold. Microsoft will definitely be getting my money on this one....assuming they don't add it to MSDNAA and get it to me for free ;p

Lupin · « **Reply #70 on:** January 12, 2009, 01:57:23 PM »

i'm also currently using the windows 7 beta. so far the only problem i encountered is the mp3 issue. good thing i had my mp3s write protected.

costi · « **Reply #71 on:** January 12, 2009, 04:30:59 PM »

There's already a fix for that, available via Windows Update...

mgz · « **Reply #72 on:** January 12, 2009, 06:44:57 PM »

downloading tonight will install cod4 and see how it goes

per · « **Reply #73 on:** January 12, 2009, 08:02:13 PM »

I'm rather tempted to install it, actually, mostly since vista just plain sucks, and I have misplaces my old XP 64-bit licence key and CD.

But then I noticed that I don't have any DVD-writer any more. It's not recognized for some reason or other, and fiddling around with the cabling did not help, so apparantly I'm doomed to stay with vista forever. :-)

Lonewolf5460 · « **Reply #74 on:** January 12, 2009, 11:21:16 PM »

Quote from: Jarudin on January 12, 2009, 01:06:14 AM

Maybe a bit late but I thought I'd share it:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/2088311 Windows 7 in VMWare, so you don't have to wipe your harddisk if you want to take a peek
Details can be found on the mininova page.

--Jarudin--

You dont have to do a wipe to check it out. I shrank my partition with disk management by 20 gigs, formatted it and installed in 25 min. I am more impressed by the day actually thinking of swapping over to it completely, only thing stopping me is that MCP is a tad buggy sound wise. Its not 7 though music plays fine and anime plays well in windows media player I just don't like it is too clunky.

BTW After you are done messing around just click extend volume to reclaim the space.

Semnae · « **Reply #75 on:** January 13, 2009, 07:56:50 AM »

The website for the Windows 7 Beta download is back up again. I'm trying to download it, but it seems Microsoft hasn't discovered bittorrent yet. I select my language, hit "go", and I end up staring at a green circle of dots being formed and unformed as it loads, up until it freezes up and I have to try again.

Edit: I finally got it to work. Their download page was freaking out because it isn't compatible with Chrome.

iindigo · « **Reply #76 on:** January 13, 2009, 11:59:49 AM »

Quote from: Semnae on January 13, 2009, 07:56:50 AM

Edit: I finally got it to work. Their download page was freaking out because it isn't compatible with Chrome.

You honestly think MS bothers testing their pages in anything other than IE?

sdedalus83 · « **Reply #77 on:** January 13, 2009, 12:17:58 PM »

Quote from: iindigo on January 13, 2009, 11:59:49 AM

You honestly think MS bothers testing their pages in anything other than IE?

They have to make sure that their page doesn't work properly in any other browser, so of course they test them.

nstgc · « **Reply #78 on:** January 13, 2009, 02:53:25 PM »

Quote from: sdedalus83 on January 13, 2009, 12:17:58 PM

Quote from: iindigo on January 13, 2009, 11:59:49 AM
You honestly think MS bothers testing their pages in anything other than IE?

They have to make sure that their page doesn't work properly in any other browser, so of course they test them.

I wouldn't be surprised.

costi · « **Reply #79 on:** January 13, 2009, 09:46:54 PM »

Quote from: per on January 12, 2009, 08:02:13 PM

I'm rather tempted to install it, actually, mostly since vista just plain sucks, and I have misplaces my old XP 64-bit licence key and CD.

But then I noticed that I don't have any DVD-writer any more. It's not recognized for some reason or other, and fiddling around with the cabling did not help, so apparantly I'm doomed to stay with vista forever. :-)

Make yourself a bootable pendrive and install from that.