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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #80 on: January 14, 2009, 01:59:25 AM »
I'm rather tempted to install it, actually, mostly since vista just plain sucks, and I have misplaces my old XP 64-bit licence key and CD.

But then I noticed that I don't have any DVD-writer any more. It's not recognized for some reason or other, and fiddling around with the cabling did not help, so apparantly I'm doomed to stay with vista forever. :-)
Make yourself a bootable pendrive and install from that.

SD Cards are pretty cheap for space now. getting a USB card reader + SD cards might be a viable option if you can't find a cheap thumbdrive
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #81 on: January 14, 2009, 02:22:16 AM »
http://i.gizmodo.com/5129919/what-a-windows-7-bsod-looks-like

now i know how 7's bsod looks like. haven't encountered it during my use

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #82 on: January 14, 2009, 07:04:44 PM »
I heard it happened to some people... well, it's still a beta, so it's entitled to the occasional hiccup ;)

I installed it yesterday on my laptop (specs a few posts before) and I'm really impressed - everything works like a charm, the only drivers I had to download from Toshiba's website were the Bluetooth stack and card reader, everything else either worked from the start or downloaded via Windows Update. The only thing I haven't tested yet is HDMI, but it is present on the list of audio devices, so I'm pretty certain it'll work.

The system boots a bit faster than XP, significantly faster than Vista, and is very fast and responsive (even with Aero turned on, and we're talking Intel X3100 here).

The new taskbar is really cool, it's much better organized than before, gives quick access to everything. Things like player controls on WMP window miniatures and a progress bar overlaid on top if the IE or Windows Explorer icon when downloading or moving files are a nice touch. The miniatures could be generated faster, though, there's too much delay.

Apart from eye-candy, there are also some other additions which aren't as flashy, but are very useful. The Task Manager now has a Services tab, where all the services are listed and can be stopped or started; there's also a butoon that opens the services.msc applet.
Another great addition is the Resource Monitor - it's a tool that gives a lot of information about CPU, memory and HDD usage, network traffic and other stuff. It's really detailed, and I'm sure will be useful for troubleshooting.
Last, but not least - the new Windows Firewall. Forget the simplistic thingy that was in Windows XP - this one is totally configurable, with a ton of already existing rules (separately for inbound and outbound traffic) and the option to create new ones, based on application or port (or range of ports), allowing not only to block or allow traffic, but also do it only for selected users, computers in the network or applications. At the same time the basic interface is simple and unobtrusive, so less experienced users can leave all the aforementioned stuff work in the background, while advanced users will probably tweak the firewall to their liking.

Wordpad and Paint received a new interface, with a ribbon similar to Office 2007. It's a change for the better, because all the options are now visible (they're on a single tab). Calc was upgraded with a programmers and statistical view, as well as a unit converter and date calculator.

BTW. Wordpad no longer has the option to save in DOC format (there's RTF), but can save in OOXML and ODT :)

In my case, the system takes about 10GB of HDD space, and eats up about 800MB of RAM with some apps running (WMP, Wordpad). CPU usage, when idle, is around 0-2%, with the occasional peak to 5% (1.86GHz Intel T2390 Dual Core).

All in all, I think Microsoft did things right this time, and if they don't screw the final version up, I'm moving from XP as soon as Windows 7 hits the shelves.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #83 on: January 14, 2009, 08:38:58 PM »


Wordpad and Paint received a new interface, with a ribbon similar to Office 2007. It's a change for the better, because all the options are now visible (they're on a single tab). Calc was upgraded with a programmers and statistical view, as well as a unit converter and date calculator.

I've been using office 2007 for a while now...
I want to stab whoever came up with the "ribbon" in the face, it's awful and takes up too much screen space for useless eye candy graphics, and makes it near impossible to find what you need. Traditional menus are much more efficient.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #84 on: January 15, 2009, 11:28:47 AM »
Make yourself a bootable pendrive and install from that.
SD Cards are pretty cheap for space now. getting a USB card reader + SD cards might be a viable option if you can't find a cheap thumbdrive

I have a new DVD on the way from the webshop, I think I'll wait for that one.
But it seems that Windows 7 is faster than vista, at least, according to all reviews I've read.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2009, 12:01:23 PM »


Wordpad and Paint received a new interface, with a ribbon similar to Office 2007. It's a change for the better, because all the options are now visible (they're on a single tab). Calc was upgraded with a programmers and statistical view, as well as a unit converter and date calculator.

I've been using office 2007 for a while now...
I want to stab whoever came up with the "ribbon" in the face, it's awful and takes up too much screen space for useless eye candy graphics, and makes it near impossible to find what you need. Traditional menus are much more efficient.

I have a totally opposite opinion - I'm in love with the new interface, it's much faster to use. It does take some getting used to, since the layout (while rather intuitive most of the time) is completely different than the old one.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #86 on: January 16, 2009, 08:53:18 PM »
I love windows 7 it is awsome! check it out!


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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #87 on: January 17, 2009, 10:14:54 PM »
Installed on the laptop. I love it, just hope that the release version will not be full of bloat.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #88 on: January 17, 2009, 10:28:07 PM »
Well if the pattern follows, the final will be bloaty. Didn't a number of the Longhorn betas perform more nicely than Vista final does overall?



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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #89 on: January 18, 2009, 02:58:43 AM »
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Didn't a number of the Longhorn betas perform more nicely than Vista final does overall?
Nope. Don't remember about the bloat though.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #90 on: January 18, 2009, 03:28:28 PM »
Well if the pattern follows, the final will be bloaty. Didn't a number of the Longhorn betas perform more nicely than Vista final does overall?




not really, the beta of vista(longhorn) used to be pretty crappy.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #91 on: January 18, 2009, 05:42:33 PM »
i cant install it atm i get a bsod when it finishes loading files and goes to the starting window screen lol

i am gonna try a few things when i have time but atm its a no go

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #92 on: January 19, 2009, 12:22:19 AM »
Just take the leep of faith and move to linux. A much easier OS once you know how to use it ;)

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #93 on: January 19, 2009, 12:48:41 AM »
i have linux installed on one of my HDD
but i game ALOT
so its a pain

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #94 on: January 19, 2009, 01:09:01 AM »
You could just shift to console gaming exclusively :P



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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #95 on: January 19, 2009, 01:18:18 AM »
I want to stab whoever came up with the "ribbon" in the face

Oh my gosh :D R O F L, yup I agree.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #96 on: January 19, 2009, 03:09:58 AM »
i have linux installed on one of my HDD
but i game ALOT
so its a pain

Then switch to windows agility or whatever it was called. It supports windows based games without a vr windows.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #97 on: January 19, 2009, 04:18:13 AM »
sounds like a pain in the ass when i have windows functioning just fine on my pc, and simply got a bsod when i tried to install 64 bit windows 7 BETA

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #98 on: January 19, 2009, 03:34:23 PM »
You could just shift to console gaming exclusively :P

Crappy controls for FPS and RTS
No graphic detail adjustments/looks crappier on TV screen then same game on a pc monitor (especially if you get a NEC LCD2690WUXi  :P)
Forget about mods
Console + Tv + Mac/pc with linux still costs more then a good computer which you can use for all purposes.


In other words you can't play BF2 with it's 20+ unofficial mods  ;D However some games are exclusive for consoles... too bad you have several of them to choose from with each having their own exclusive games.

For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #99 on: January 19, 2009, 04:47:49 PM »
You could just shift to console gaming exclusively :P



yes ill switch to console gaming, where there is limited competition in games, shitty controllers to rely on, shittier utilization of game engines AND NO LEANING.

I am stuck using shitty things like xbox live to play, and have less control over tweaking my config for making people show up easier or just more to my liking.

Modding the game on consoles is limited extremely  and are usually shitty at best.

Ide be stuck using my XBOX or buying a ps3. Would have to play on my tv which i dont like to do for FPS. Also being stuck with limited patching and paying for new maps.