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Drew:

--- Quote from: relic2279 on October 24, 2009, 01:26:30 AM ---If Chrome ever gets adblock plus, I'd switch... Adblock is sent from the gods. It even skips those nasty youtube commercials and removes the ads.

--- End quote ---
Yeah. If Adblock was a woman I would bang the shit out of her.

No joke.

Flusel:
You can start right now with your System... xD

TorturdChaos:
Is is just me or have we not seen this with a really crappy OS (Vista) then a decent one that looks just like it(Win7) before with ME & XP.  You could crash ME by looking at your computer funny from across the room.  Vista isn't much better.  But then they came along with XP, looked like ME, but was a hell of a lot more stable.  Now comes Win7.  Looks just like Vista, has some of the annoying things reworked, takes up less resources and is actually a decent OS. 

I really hope this isn't a trend M$ is starting with releasing a crap OS, then finishing and releasing the real deal.

Slykester:
Well, consider that Vista was being developed actively up until SP1, versus Windows 7 where development ended with the RC. During that time the competitors were able to gain additional market share, most notably OSX. I'd say M$ has learnt a valuable lesson, that much is evident in Windows 7.

The reason it seems so familiar is because M$ has a history of fixing up old code and re-releasing as something new.

95 - 98 (win)
98 - ME (fail)

The w9x codebase is a separate development branch from NT as far as I recall, so..

Win2k - XP (win)
Vista - Windows7 (win)

Now Windows 2000 wasn't bad, but XP definitely fixed a lot that was broken. I just cannot see M$ making the same mistake twice here (as they did with Vista), with OS being their bread&butter. It's clear what they attempted to do with Vista, they lacked the resources to produce the final product and tried to get the customer to pay for it. If they do it again.. Well it's not like you have to pay for it.


--- Quote from: TorturdChaos on October 27, 2009, 03:50:54 PM ---I really hope this isn't a trend M$ is starting with releasing a crap OS, then finishing and releasing the real deal.

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Nope, not a trend starting ;) (and yes, I left out server influence here)

Natheria:
Windows 7 is not even considered to be their seventh OS (it's actually internally referred to as Windows 6.1). You notice that pretty much every other OS is better because they basically have been working on the same kernel for two OS cycles.

Vista after SP1 really wasn't all that bad (I would never compare Vista to ME, ME was never a real OS in my mind and i'm sick to death of people who make such a comparison. Anyone who does never had to put up with ME. I still have to put up with ME. ME can go to hell and die a thousand flaming deaths.) Vista just couldn't recover from the extremely negative press at release and the fact that third party companies were essentially caught with their pants down on drivers and compatibility issues or just outright refused to work with Vista (I.E. Intel). Now that they've had three years to perfect their original product and tech has gotten better to support the OS that took up so many resources, and the re branding to 7 everyone is happy.

Microsoft as a whole has always used their initial releases as beta versions. Now with so many people willing to do that with Win7 (like 8 million testers) they can actually do that.

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