Author Topic: FF VII [Series] + FF XIII + FF XIII-2 + FF XIII-3 + FF XV (Read 38744 times)

dbml · « **Reply #220 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:26:00 AM »

Quote from: SeventyX7 on September 16, 2011, 10:09:56 PM

Quote from: dbml on September 16, 2011, 07:12:19 PM
XIII-2... Serah is the lead character. HELL YES! My expectations just went up ten-fold.

My expectations will go up 20-fold if they get rid of Snow, Sazh, little boy (I don't remember his name), and Vanille.

Then let me keep Vanille for myself. Me likes her! She was my favorite of all the main characters. I want Hope to piss off and go cry to his mommy.

Spanks · « **Reply #221 on:** September 18, 2011, 10:30:55 AM »

As soon as XIII-2 was announced all my friends who played or finished XIII said to me "eh, boring the first time why drag it on" or similar. I was a bit more optimistic as I thought maybe they will change the game play and style of the game like they did X-2(I actually enjoyed this game unlike many others).

This optimism died when I found out the combat system is the same. Bargain bin for me in two years time.

Quote from: Tatsujin on September 14, 2011, 03:43:11 PM

Quote from: Takeshi on September 14, 2011, 06:50:00 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on September 14, 2011, 05:27:16 AM
Are they gonna fix the super easy battle system they have? Not to mention how irritating and shitty it is. I'm close to finishing the game but I quit because of it. FFVI and FFVII's battle system is still the best out of all their releases, including XIII.
If X had an easy battle system then XIII is holyfuckingshit easy. I'm playing that now, and most battles so far can usually be won by just pressing X. This also goes for a lot of other Final Fantasy titles in the beginning so I hope this changes.

VI, huh? I've only played the three on PSX and X and X-2 on PS2. I never got around to playing Final Fantasy XII though. Need to get the remaining fantasies on PSN.
I've enjoyed XII's battle system even thou' it felt like a freaking MMO. XIII is easy until you get around the middle of the game, thats when you need to prep your characters gear and tactics need to be used.

Tactics need to be used? target creature, do as much damage as possible in as small amount of time as possible, target breaks(whatever its called) target dies, move onto next target. Only tactical shifting made this game bearable.

Combat system ruined this game for me.

The combat ruined XIII for me

Havoc10K · « **Reply #222 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:03:54 AM »

Doh, FFX and FFX-2 in combat style are like FF1 and FF7 in visual style.
Unlike FFX which was predictable in combat as much as it gets, in FFX-2 a minimal error in decision could end your game in a single swipe, loved it when I had to fight immune mobs while not being really ready with the dress sphere

FF13 looks nice and has a nice story from what I read on so far, but other than characters and story, it doesn't really have much to offer in interesting combat, since FFXII SE is trying hard to make an interesting combat but fails on the simply stuff they were doing up till FF9 in combat style, and the only interesting thing was in FFX-2 with the changing class in-battle and anything afterwards started to be cheap.

Youtube only makes it less appealing when you look at combat in 13, and versus makes it even less interesting combat-wise. this is the reason why I am still not buying PS3, I thought FF13 would be incredible and I could finally play something really hard, but it seems like Visual experience is still the biggest priority for SE.

Spanks · « **Reply #223 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:16:49 AM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on September 18, 2011, 11:03:54 AM

Doh, FFX and FFX-2 in combat style are like FF1 and FF7 in visual style.
Unlike FFX which was predictable in combat as much as it gets, in FFX-2 a minimal error in decision could end your game in a single swipe, loved it when I had to fight immune mobs while not being really ready with the dress sphere

FF13 looks nice and has a nice story from what I read on so far, but other than characters and story, it doesn't really have much to offer in interesting combat, since FFXII SE is trying hard to make an interesting combat but fails on the simply stuff they were doing up till FF9 in combat style, and the only interesting thing was in FFX-2 with the changing class in-battle and anything afterwards started to be cheap.

Youtube only makes it less appealing when you look at combat in 13, and versus makes it even less interesting combat-wise. this is the reason why I am still not buying PS3, I thought FF13 would be incredible and I could finally play something really hard, but it seems like Visual experience is still the biggest priority for SE.

Wish I had the foresight to not buy a PS3, I have had one since just after they stopped selling the PS2 compatible PS3(Fuck you Sony) and since then I have bought a grand total of.... ONE game. No prize for guessing which one.

Only thing your missing out with FFXIII is some ok cut-scenes, go on youtube and you will more fun then playing the game.

SE???

Havoc10K · « **Reply #224 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:26:56 AM »

SE - Square-Enix

AS I said, the story is good, and the visual experience is great, and that is where it ends.
That means cutscenes are nice.

Spanks · « **Reply #225 on:** September 19, 2011, 12:52:03 AM »

I don't even know what SE are doing anymore, on one hand they are pumping out quick to make, cheap remakes and franchise psp, ds and phone games then on the other they are spending copious amounts of time and money on FFXIII franchise, only for them to be boring games anyway. Though I don't blame them for trying to make the combat different but you would think that after it not working in FF12 and and FF14.

SeventyX7 · « **Reply #226 on:** September 19, 2011, 02:56:30 AM »

I don't understand why people are talking about FF X-2 like it had a good combat system. It's combat system was horribly broken in flawed. It actually reminded me A LOT of FF8's combat system, except instead of spamming Renzokuken over and over I was just cracking out the special transformation dress sphere to pwn enemies in a couple turns.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #227 on:** September 19, 2011, 06:09:32 AM »

Lemme guess, you never fought Paragon ?
There are enemies where changing a dress sphere is the only way to fight it actually, like the ones immune to any magic or physical attacks. Main quest enemies were not even hard to fight, but some of the enemies on the side story were really something to be scared of. Vegnagun compared to Paragon was like Fire fly in FF8 compared to ... Ruby weapon in FF7, it's that much of a difference. Fighting Paragon and changing you dress sphere in the fight was a mistake every time.

Do you have such enemies in FF13 ? where even on capped level you can get owned wit ha 1 second lost for thinking ?

Remind me but isn't FF13 turn based ? like FFX ?

dbml · « **Reply #228 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:53:00 AM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on September 19, 2011, 06:09:32 AM

Remind me but isn't FF13 turn based ? like FFX ?

You should have all posting rights revoked for having to ask that.

No, it's not. It's very similar in style to X-2, but even more frantic. FFXIII has the toughest regular opponents in the series (that you pretty much have to grind against if you want to make $$$). Even with all your characters and weapons MAXED, you can still get 1HKO'd if you forget to switch your paradigm. And sometimes even then it's impossible to recover from.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #229 on:** September 19, 2011, 08:09:08 AM »

If it's fast paced then it's good, but from all the stuff I saw in vids it's pretty much just mash em up fast and not very fun, also I noticed that SE went a fairly easy way regarding spells effects. I liked the big flashy stuff pre-FFX and now it's just a shot of firaga and you barely even notice the spell itself, only the numbers.

That's at least what I see from vids.

SeventyX7 · « **Reply #230 on:** September 19, 2011, 10:03:42 AM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on September 19, 2011, 06:09:32 AM

Lemme guess, you never fought Paragon ?
There are enemies where changing a dress sphere is the only way to fight it actually, like the ones immune to any magic or physical attacks. Main quest enemies were not even hard to fight, but some of the enemies on the side story were really something to be scared of. Vegnagun compared to Paragon was like Fire fly in FF8 compared to ... Ruby weapon in FF7, it's that much of a difference. Fighting Paragon and changing you dress sphere in the fight was a mistake every time.

Do you have such enemies in FF13 ? where even on capped level you can get owned wit ha 1 second lost for thinking ?

Remind me but isn't FF13 turn based ? like FFX ?

The game's combat system isn't okay if the only time it works as intended is against a special optional boss fight.

Quote from: dbml on September 19, 2011, 07:53:00 AM

Quote from: Havoc10K on September 19, 2011, 06:09:32 AM
Remind me but isn't FF13 turn based ? like FFX ?
FFXIII has the toughest regular opponents in the series

...What? You can't really believe that? Any FF game before 8 has tougher regular opponents than 13..

Havoc10K · « **Reply #231 on:** September 19, 2011, 10:20:37 AM »

Quote from: SeventyX7 on September 19, 2011, 10:03:42 AM

...What? You can't really believe that? Any FF game before 8 has tougher regular opponents than 13..

God I hate when you're right, far worse is the fact that we agree.

Spanks · « **Reply #232 on:** September 19, 2011, 12:36:28 PM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on September 19, 2011, 08:09:08 AM

If it's fast paced then it's good, but from all the stuff I saw in vids it's pretty much just mash em up fast and not very fun, also I noticed that SE went a fairly easy way regarding spells effects. I liked the big flashy stuff pre-FFX and now it's just a shot of firaga and you barely even notice the spell itself, only the numbers.

That's at least what I see from vids.

what it seems like is what it is. flashy, spammy but the moves have no substance.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #233 on:** September 19, 2011, 12:47:42 PM »

Kay, I will wait for FF15 then.
Cuz both 13-2 and versus are going to be shit that looks nice.
and yeah Versus will be DMC with FF style

no thanks.

SeventyX7 · « **Reply #234 on:** September 19, 2011, 01:17:06 PM »

Honestly, I used to consider Final Fantasy games buy-before-review type games 100%.

Ever since Squaresoft became Square Enix...it's just gone downhill. They've turned their backs on the type of gameplay that made all their money and fame in the first place.

I'm not getting any new Final Fantasy game until its heavily reviewed and/or in the bargain bin for 20 dollars.

kurandoinu · « **Reply #235 on:** September 19, 2011, 01:20:22 PM »

^ I have to say, I think I may be joining you with that. :/

Havoc10K · « **Reply #236 on:** September 19, 2011, 01:20:44 PM »

I'm better, i'll wait for at least 50 vids showing gameplay and stuff on youtube. I don't really care about bargain bins. I'll bargain myself, but still only one game I could buy a PS3 for, well 2 games. Valkyria Chronicles and VC2. That is not enough to buy a PS3.

SeventyX7 · « **Reply #237 on:** September 19, 2011, 01:38:14 PM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on September 19, 2011, 01:20:44 PM

I'm better, i'll wait for at least 50 vids showing gameplay and stuff on youtube. I don't really care about bargain bins. I'll bargain myself, but still only one game I could buy a PS3 for, well 2 games. Valkyria Chronicles and VC2. That is not enough to buy a PS3.

VC 2 is PSP-only because PEOPLE ARE GAY AND DIDN'T BUY THE ORIGINAL AMAZING GAME OMFG YOU BASTARDS.

If you already have a Xbox 360, don't bother with PS3. Otherwise, if you prefer rpgs over FPS's, get ps3.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #238 on:** September 19, 2011, 01:43:08 PM »

VC3 is on PSP if I recall

I only have PS2 and PC. I don't care much about FPS for consoles so I'll pass on xbox. I don't like it anyways, but I will buy a PS3 only when I actually see a title that is worth it.

Takeshi · « **Reply #239 on:** September 19, 2011, 02:59:11 PM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on September 18, 2011, 11:03:54 AM

FF13 looks nice and has a nice story from what I read on so far, but other than characters and story, it doesn't really have much to offer in interesting combat, since FFXII SE is trying hard to make an interesting combat but fails on the simply stuff they were doing up till FF9 in combat style, and the only interesting thing was in FFX-2 with the changing class in-battle and anything afterwards started to be cheap.

Wait, let me get this right. You're commenting on a game you haven't even played yet? Seriously, aren't there enough threads in this forum where you're actually able to reign in with a rightful opinion?