Pirates on Trial

[vuzedome]

In reality it is the lobbying behind the scenes. They may already be "working" the supreme court judges. I mean they got IPRED law. Obviously someone is affecting all that. I would not be surprised if MPAA suddenly won against all the odds and judges would refuse to give any comments.

And soon after that, we're the ones getting screwed 10 folds. I'm  not surprised when this actually happens.

[AceHigh]

Here I was hoping that the United States was the only nation that had lobby groups. How foolish of me.

Aye. Good to see that people are catching up at our modern "democracy". Anyway USA is just the worst when it comes to lobby power. After USA on the line up we have EU, other European states and 1st world countries in Asia.

And soon after that, we're the ones getting screwed 10 folds. I'm  not surprised when this actually happens.

You are correct, I predict the same. However they can not succeed unless they scare us away from it. Basically they can't sue everyone because they have millions of people downloading.

[captiosus]

However they can not succeed unless they scare us away from it. Basically they can't sue everyone because they have millions of people downloading.

Solution: Polymorphic computer virus that cripples any system using a filesharing protocol. They wont care about collateral damage; ie rerouting servers, satellites, stuff like that. They would just cripple it all because they think they can. And considering how corrupt they are, its going ot happen sooner or later.

[quekmeister]

Solution: Polymorphic computer virus that cripples any system using a filesharing protocol. They wont care about collateral damage; ie rerouting servers, satellites, stuff like that. They would just cripple it all because they think they can. And considering how corrupt they are, its going ot happen sooner or later.

Corrupt, yes, but technologically current? No. I doubt they have the know-how to do this as of now.

Of course, the stupidity of man has often proved greater than any prediction of it.

[Neko13]

If you restrict yourself to filesharing protocols technically HTTP traffic also falls into that group... Or FTP. Not something they could get off the ground I suppose...

[vuzedome]

If scenario:
P2P falls,
HTTP and FTP goes up,
High bandwith on HTTP and FTP transfers confirmed.
What next?
Then they put a bandwith limiter up on all connections,
all accounts will be throttle by 50% during peak hours.
Life still sucks,
Ministers are still pointing at each other,
P2P creeps back up in the shadows,
And we all screw them back 10 folds!

But about the part where bandwith gets throttled, still thinking of a way to get pass it.

[quekmeister]

HTTP and FTP goes up,
High bandwith on HTTP and FTP transfers confirmed.
What next?
Then they put a bandwith limiter up on all connections,
all accounts will be throttle by 50% during peak hours.

But about the part where bandwith gets throttled, still thinking of a way to get pass it.

The rise of the small scale ISP. Individual servers forming nodes in a Darknet.

[iindigo]

Yeah, filesharing is a beast that has grown too large to kill. It's like a phoenix or something, always coming back. People WILL find a way to do it, one way or another.

[bcr123]

Yeah, filesharing is a beast that has grown too large to kill. It's like a phoenix or something, always coming back. People WILL find a way to do it, one way or another.

File sharing goes back to the roots of the internet.  It's only the last 10 years or so that the Internet became conducive to the provider-consumer model that they are trying to force us into now. Originally it was entirely user generated content.

[AceHigh]

I thought that file sharing existed before the internet. You know.... Sneakernet 

[bcr123]

I thought that file sharing existed before the internet. You know.... Sneakernet 

True but I was just sticking to the context of the current discussion.  I dubbed my brother's cassettes instead of buying music long before computers were capable of playing/storing regular music so in a sense though it was analog I was "file sharing" before even having a computer.

Never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of DVD's driving down the freeway.

[Neko13]

April 17th finally here

[quekmeister]

And they fall...
http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-trial-the-verdict-090417/

[AceHigh]

Found guilty based on weak/no evidence.

The power of lobbying is terrifying. Yes we lose our right, welcome to the fascism.

[captiosus]

................... ............... shit.

[molbjerg]

Bummer.

Like, seriously, bummer.

[forevr]

Probably made an example of.

This case is far from over.

[Penthero]

What suprised me the most is that Lundström actually was found guilty, wtf did he do? He hosted the server, well duh that's what his company do...

[Neko13]

I want to see the courts foundation for this verdict... I mean, they host non-copyrighted material. They only facilitate a means of communication between clients... And being the biggest Torrent site out there being one of their goals is not implicating they do have illegal material on there.

Ofcourse the RIAA and MPAA are now going to be completely insane on cracking down on torrent activity... I mean, they won (for now), so there is a precedent now...

[Pzc]

The court found the defendants guilty of helping users commit
copyright violations "by providing a website with ... sophisticated
search functions, simple download and storage capabilities, and
through the tracker linked to the website." [source]

I am not a lawyer or anything.. but that looks to me like every
search engine is more or less guilty as well.