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Pirates on Trial
queenmetroid:
--- Quote from: anerph on April 23, 2009, 04:53:02 PM ---It doesn't matter how many individual downloaders you sue, people are still going to be around to download. Since they overlooked this fact at first they are now trying step 2: take down the sites hosting and offering the torrents.
I just can't comprehend a solution to this problem. We are in a generation where it is dang near impossible to have an original idea without it already being copyrighted somewhere by someone. There are even people out there that think every time you draw an anime picture and post it online you should have to add sources to the original artists of the style of anime. I guess, on one hand I think it's only fair to the original creators of something to get credit, but on the other hand you can't do anything anymore without citing sources or giving credit or asking for copyright permissions. I don't really know where I was going with this. I just want to see people working on solutions to the problems rather than just taking sides.
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Tell me about it. Writing a college paper is freaking ridiculous already. You have to submit it to an internet database so they can make sure you didn't "cheat". In 10 years you won't be able to write an "original" paper. The small percentage of the world who pirates and copies screws it up for the rest of us.
fohfoh:
I thikn it's more along the lines of a paper that's 90% citations...
Aneroph:
--- Quote from: queenmetroid on April 23, 2009, 06:04:47 PM ---Tell me about it. Writing a college paper is freaking ridiculous already. You have to submit it to an internet database so they can make sure you didn't "cheat". In 10 years you won't be able to write an "original" paper. The small percentage of the world who pirates and copies screws it up for the rest of us.
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Aren't you considered a pirate? Maybe you meant something other than what you said here, but I was not saying anything bad about pirates nor the people who are against pirates. When you stop and think about it, anime is played on television in Japan for free yet for us to see it in its original glory we have to buy it because we are foreign? Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. People are getting cheated and the licensing and copyright companies are being too strict. On the flip side, the pirates are also overstepping the boundaries of gaining a little bit of justification and the copyrighters/licensors are right in trying to protect works. On one hand you don't want people to steal your invention and just claim it as their own, but on the other hand maybe the copyrighting things are just too strict and no one can claim anything as their own anymore. There in lies my dilemma. No matter how much I try to think of solutions I just can't wrap my brain around it.
mgz:
--- Quote from: anerph on April 23, 2009, 06:19:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: queenmetroid on April 23, 2009, 06:04:47 PM ---Tell me about it. Writing a college paper is freaking ridiculous already. You have to submit it to an internet database so they can make sure you didn't "cheat". In 10 years you won't be able to write an "original" paper. The small percentage of the world who pirates and copies screws it up for the rest of us.
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Aren't you considered a pirate? Maybe you meant something other than what you said here, but I was not saying anything bad about pirates nor the people who are against pirates. When you stop and think about it, anime is played on television in Japan for free yet for us to see it in its original glory we have to buy it because we are foreign? Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. People are getting cheated and the licensing and copyright companies are being too strict. On the flip side, the pirates are also overstepping the boundaries of gaining a little bit of justification and the copyrighters/licensors are right in trying to protect works. On one hand you don't want people to steal your invention and just claim it as their own, but on the other hand maybe the copyrighting things are just too strict and no one can claim anything as their own anymore. There in lies my dilemma. No matter how much I try to think of solutions I just can't wrap my brain around it.
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a majority of popular bands dont complain very openly, you look at bands like radiohead and NIN and shit that put out their stuff for free now.
Meanwhile record industry complains about poor sales when they put out the same garbage over and over again, movie sales have gone up in general not down.
And because lil wayne and nelly and 50 cent can sucker 1 million retards into buying their piece of shit albums in a week we all get the pissing and moaning of NOBODY WANTS TO PAY FOR YOUR OVERPRICED GARBAGE
queenmetroid:
--- Quote from: mgz on April 23, 2009, 07:12:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: anerph on April 23, 2009, 06:19:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: queenmetroid on April 23, 2009, 06:04:47 PM ---Tell me about it. Writing a college paper is freaking ridiculous already. You have to submit it to an internet database so they can make sure you didn't "cheat". In 10 years you won't be able to write an "original" paper. The small percentage of the world who pirates and copies screws it up for the rest of us.
--- End quote ---
Aren't you considered a pirate? Maybe you meant something other than what you said here, but I was not saying anything bad about pirates nor the people who are against pirates. When you stop and think about it, anime is played on television in Japan for free yet for us to see it in its original glory we have to buy it because we are foreign? Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. People are getting cheated and the licensing and copyright companies are being too strict. On the flip side, the pirates are also overstepping the boundaries of gaining a little bit of justification and the copyrighters/licensors are right in trying to protect works. On one hand you don't want people to steal your invention and just claim it as their own, but on the other hand maybe the copyrighting things are just too strict and no one can claim anything as their own anymore. There in lies my dilemma. No matter how much I try to think of solutions I just can't wrap my brain around it.
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a majority of popular bands dont complain very openly, you look at bands like radiohead and NIN and shit that put out their stuff for free now.
Meanwhile record industry complains about poor sales when they put out the same garbage over and over again, movie sales have gone up in general not down.
And because lil wayne and nelly and 50 cent can sucker 1 million retards into buying their piece of shit albums in a week we all get the pissing and moaning of NOBODY WANTS TO PAY FOR YOUR OVERPRICED GARBAGE
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@ aneroph
My point was that there is no solution. Yes, I'm a pirate. But my point was that because even though I write original papers, I get penalized for it, because some people would rather cheat, and so mine has to be checked, and then the 5% that "isn't original". Has to be re-written. It's the same thing with DRM. I get screwed when I buy a game, because some people pirate. People on both sides will always overreact and create solutions that benefit no-one. Yeah, copyright is a mess, and no one will fix it.
@mgz
I love NIN, and I buy his albums just because he hates the RIAA. And when movies are actually GOOD, like The Dark Knight, they make obscene amounts of money. The studios will complain about all the sales they "lost" from piracy, anyway, though.
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