Author Topic: Pirates on Trial (Read 30570 times)

Duki3003 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2009, 07:00:02 PM »

Quote from: mgz on February 19, 2009, 05:00:39 PM

i personally will move to spain and create thehiddenninjavilla ge.org
and it will be the best torrent site ever

'till Naruto finds you.....

HazukiChan · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2009, 07:22:14 PM »

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Following the lunch break, proceedings continued with prosecutor Håkan Roswall failing to start up his computer. For several minutes, listeners of the live audio could hear mouse-clicks as Roswall, who earlier claimed to be an expert on computer crimes, tried to get his PowerPoint presentation on the screen. He was eventually ordered by the judge to stick to his papers and continue.

glad he works for the other side.

quekmeister · « **Reply #22 on:** February 19, 2009, 08:30:14 PM »

Roswall isn't very tech savvy it seems. Hence the 2nd Day fiasco for the plaintiffs.

Day 4:
Pirates' pals pillage plaintiff HQ.
Faltering prosecution plays pedo card while trying to disguise fact that they know not the difference between diskette and CD.

Also, this article is a bit old, but here's a podcast by the BBC on the future of media and information transfer.
TPB's BBC Podcast.

Keevtara · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2009, 12:11:40 AM »

Quote from: Wikipedia

The term "King Kong defense" was quickly popularized by use in online blogs, micro-blogs, file-sharing news feeds, and in media reports on the Pirate Bay Trial.[4] A reference has been made to how the King Kong defense resembles the "unbeatable" Chewbacca Defense meme.[9]

Funny stuff.

SpeedKills · « **Reply #24 on:** February 20, 2009, 04:30:52 AM »

It's so great to know that the people at the forefront of anti-piracy don't even really understand anything about computers. lol.

Penthero · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2009, 11:26:25 AM »

Quote from: SpeedKills on February 20, 2009, 04:30:52 AM

It's so great to know that the people at the forefront of anti-piracy don't even really understand anything about computers. lol.

Indeed, I haven't laughed this much since I watched lucky star. Listening to them is quite hilarious.

quekmeister · « **Reply #26 on:** February 20, 2009, 05:51:09 PM »

Another Rosw[e]ll incident, aliens land and try to speak netspk... but fail miserably. Judge says: No Amerkin style attacks.

AceHigh · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2009, 06:20:50 PM »

I listened to it, it was priceless

If anyone is interested, you can download the audio here:
http://thepiratebay.org/user/SOADSN/

I love how Peter mocks the prosecutor. It's just awesome.

Penthero · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2009, 06:40:42 PM »

Quote from: Dragoon AceHigh on February 20, 2009, 06:20:50 PM

If anyone is interested, you can download the audio here:
http://thepiratebay.org/user/SOADSN/

Or you can get it streamed from SVTplay, in swedish ofcrouse <.<

AceHigh · « **Reply #29 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:03:38 PM »

Quote from: Penthero on February 20, 2009, 06:40:42 PM

Or you can get it streamed from SVTplay, in swedish ofcrouse <.<

I thought it was so obvious that I didn't bother mentioning it. Anyway I mean who doesn't know Swedish nowadays?

Penthero · « **Reply #30 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:22:20 PM »

Quote from: Dragoon AceHigh on February 20, 2009, 07:03:38 PM

I thought it was so obvious that I didn't bother mentioning it.

Some people might think it's translated, I rather point it out early so I don't need to read whine/complains later

Quote from: Dragoon AceHigh on February 20, 2009, 07:03:38 PM

Anyway I mean who doesn't know Swedish nowadays?

Everyone in my neighbourhood knows swedish, so I think it's safe to assume that no one doesn't know.

mgz · « **Reply #31 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:21:41 PM »

Quote from: Penthero on February 20, 2009, 07:22:20 PM

Quote from: Dragoon AceHigh on February 20, 2009, 07:03:38 PM
I thought it was so obvious that I didn't bother mentioning it.

Some people might think it's translated, I rather point it out early so I don't need to read whine/complains later

Quote from: Dragoon AceHigh on February 20, 2009, 07:03:38 PM
Anyway I mean who doesn't know Swedish nowadays?
Everyone in my neighbourhood knows swedish, so I think it's safe to assume that no one doesn't know.

i know a guy who knows a guy who knows swedish so i just assumed everyone did too

Penthero · « **Reply #32 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:32:45 PM »

Quote from: mgz on February 20, 2009, 08:21:41 PM

i know a guy who knows a guy who knows swedish so i just assumed everyone did too

I would do the same.

mgz · « **Reply #33 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:37:11 PM »

i mean honestly if you cant name me 642 million people who cant speak swedish its quite obvious that everyone can

quekmeister · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2009, 08:14:19 PM »

Pirate Party holds pirate party with police and politicians.

kyanwan · « **Reply #35 on:** February 21, 2009, 08:53:41 PM »

Quote from: RasMuX on February 19, 2009, 04:08:38 PM

If they're found guilty I'm going to start my own personal war against the US companies (read Facists).

YARRR!!
Hey Ho! And a bottle of rum!

I'll defend them in that people have a right to make money.

However, in the same defense, I will attack them for being complete and total assholes about their media, how much money they want, how much they pay themselves, how asshole they are about distribution, format shift, time shift, recording, sharing, personal duplication, fair use, fan use, etc, etc, etc.

Like - I can watch this show HERE for free ( say, House MD. ) BUT - if I copy it to my computer I'm a thief.

But if I watch it on my TV I'm ok.

WTF? Fuck hollywood. Then, if someone from - say - Norway - who I chat with with wants to watch too ... they have no way to see it. Hollywood complains : "Well, uh, um, bandwidth is expensive and we don't want to pay for it." And if I volunteer to pay for it - huh, oh no - that's bad.

Fuck em hard.

Neko13 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 21, 2009, 09:14:59 PM »

Reminds me of the NBC site... They have video's up so you can watch the episodes online if you want... Great...

Yeah, until I connect from the European continent: I get a nice notice that the video is not available to me at my current location. Please select another.

Well, I would... but all of them give me the same. So if I actually want to see an episode of a show they host online, you're pretty much out of options unless you go for torrents... The question then becomes: how bad do I want to see the show and do I actually feel like downloading it and committing something that can very likely be construed as a crime.

Add to that the fact that the industry does not release episodes or movies around the world at the same time, which causes the US people to usually be the first to see anything, and the remainder of the world can wait. Sure, you'll get it eventually, but that could take months. If it's out and you heard of it, and you're all excited about something like that... the threshold for downloading something so you can at least satisfy your excitement becomes increasingly lower.

I'm really curious how this is going to play out. Especially since it'll put forth a precedent for torrenting. If they get convicted for providing non-copyrighted files (which the torrents themselves are), and provide traffic between clients (which is basically the only thing a tracker does, and isn't illegal in any way, shape or form) something is seriously wrong with the worlds morals.

quekmeister · « **Reply #37 on:** February 21, 2009, 10:55:14 PM »

Here is a report on a study conducted by researchers at Harvard detailing the fact that filesharing does not affect record sales, the language is a bit dry, but it doesn't have too many unusual terms:
Oberholzer-Gee and Strumpf (2007), Journal of Political Economy

mgz · « **Reply #38 on:** February 22, 2009, 06:13:33 AM »

Its pretty obvious to most people who dont sit there on line and buy new cd from band X or Y.

The perceived quality of music coming from artists has shit the bed. So its like the old saying goes garbage in garbage out.

People dont feel like buying a 10-20$ cd for 1 track. And i think i could say with confidence that a majority of music downloaded and distributed illegally is more likely then not slightly older music where the CDs are rereleases of old material occasionally "remastered" and overpriced or slapped into a box set or put into a greatest hits CD.

The only reason record industries complain is because hiphop and pop music will sell a shit ton of cds for some artists and country music still sells fairly well.

They have seen a huge decrease in sales for a majority of other genres for the reasons stated above. There isnt a led zeppelin or aerosmith or the rolling stones or metallica of our current time(i know metallica is still around but most fans have turned their back on their cd releases)

With the invention of the internet and better technology it has made it much easier for more people to check out more music and thus be more selective in what they want. And by doing so saying FUCK THAT to your radio stations and what not. Which used to play a HUGE part in record sales and "the charts"

The record industry merely needs to update its archaic business model and figure out something new

AceHigh · « **Reply #39 on:** February 22, 2009, 08:36:10 AM »

The music industry need to go away.

Music exists for many millennia and it was doing fine before the copyright laws and MPAA. If there is anything useful music organisations have done it was to distribute music world wide. So I guess now that we have a distribution superiour to that, the music industry has to go. It must be as it was 200, 500 and thousands of years before. When an artist makes art of cultural value it no longer belongs to him, but to the whole society. People who make music can still make shit loads of money by doing concerts and signing t-shirts and boobs.