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Pirates on Trial
kyanwan:
--- Quote from: RasMuX on February 19, 2009, 04:08:38 PM ---If they're found guilty I'm going to start my own personal war against the US companies (read Facists).
YARRR!!
Hey Ho! And a bottle of rum!
--- End quote ---
I'll defend them in that people have a right to make money.
However, in the same defense, I will attack them for being complete and total assholes about their media, how much money they want, how much they pay themselves, how asshole they are about distribution, format shift, time shift, recording, sharing, personal duplication, fair use, fan use, etc, etc, etc.
Like - I can watch this show HERE for free ( say, House MD. ) BUT - if I copy it to my computer I'm a thief.
But if I watch it on my TV I'm ok.
WTF? Fuck hollywood. Then, if someone from - say - Norway - who I chat with with wants to watch too ... they have no way to see it. Hollywood complains : "Well, uh, um, bandwidth is expensive and we don't want to pay for it." And if I volunteer to pay for it - huh, oh no - that's bad.
Fuck em hard.
Neko13:
Reminds me of the NBC site... They have video's up so you can watch the episodes online if you want... Great...
Yeah, until I connect from the European continent: I get a nice notice that the video is not available to me at my current location. Please select another.
Well, I would... but all of them give me the same. So if I actually want to see an episode of a show they host online, you're pretty much out of options unless you go for torrents... The question then becomes: how bad do I want to see the show and do I actually feel like downloading it and committing something that can very likely be construed as a crime.
Add to that the fact that the industry does not release episodes or movies around the world at the same time, which causes the US people to usually be the first to see anything, and the remainder of the world can wait. Sure, you'll get it eventually, but that could take months. If it's out and you heard of it, and you're all excited about something like that... the threshold for downloading something so you can at least satisfy your excitement becomes increasingly lower.
I'm really curious how this is going to play out. Especially since it'll put forth a precedent for torrenting. If they get convicted for providing non-copyrighted files (which the torrents themselves are), and provide traffic between clients (which is basically the only thing a tracker does, and isn't illegal in any way, shape or form) something is seriously wrong with the worlds morals.
quekmeister:
Here is a report on a study conducted by researchers at Harvard detailing the fact that filesharing does not affect record sales, the language is a bit dry, but it doesn't have too many unusual terms:
Oberholzer-Gee and Strumpf (2007), Journal of Political Economy
mgz:
Its pretty obvious to most people who dont sit there on line and buy new cd from band X or Y.
The perceived quality of music coming from artists has shit the bed. So its like the old saying goes garbage in garbage out.
People dont feel like buying a 10-20$ cd for 1 track. And i think i could say with confidence that a majority of music downloaded and distributed illegally is more likely then not slightly older music where the CDs are rereleases of old material occasionally "remastered" and overpriced or slapped into a box set or put into a greatest hits CD.
The only reason record industries complain is because hiphop and pop music will sell a shit ton of cds for some artists and country music still sells fairly well.
They have seen a huge decrease in sales for a majority of other genres for the reasons stated above. There isnt a led zeppelin or aerosmith or the rolling stones or metallica of our current time(i know metallica is still around but most fans have turned their back on their cd releases)
With the invention of the internet and better technology it has made it much easier for more people to check out more music and thus be more selective in what they want. And by doing so saying FUCK THAT to your radio stations and what not. Which used to play a HUGE part in record sales and "the charts"
The record industry merely needs to update its archaic business model and figure out something new
AceHigh:
The music industry need to go away.
Music exists for many millennia and it was doing fine before the copyright laws and MPAA. If there is anything useful music organisations have done it was to distribute music world wide. So I guess now that we have a distribution superiour to that, the music industry has to go. It must be as it was 200, 500 and thousands of years before. When an artist makes art of cultural value it no longer belongs to him, but to the whole society. People who make music can still make shit loads of money by doing concerts and signing t-shirts and boobs.
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