Pirates on Trial

[iindigo]

The music industry need to go away.

Music exists for many millennia and it was doing fine before the copyright laws and MPAA. If there is anything useful music organisations have done it was to distribute music world wide. So I guess now that we have a distribution superiour to that, the music industry has to go. It must be as it was 200, 500 and thousands of years before. When an artist makes art of cultural value it no longer belongs to him, but to the whole society. People who make music can still make shit loads of money by doing concerts and signing t-shirts and boobs.

Well they need not limit their revenue to that.

From what I've heard, a lot of indie bands have posted their music online for free, and when people figure out they like it, they'll buy a CD for the sole purpose of supporting the band.

But I do agree that with the advent of the internet, the record industry is completely obsolete. The movie industry almost is as well, but won't be completely useless until the majority of populated countries have FiOS-grade bandwidth.

[forevr]

TPB is a great smoke screen to keep the anti-piracy assholes away from the private trackers.

[quekmeister]

Oh Norway...

[AceHigh]

Hah, he did upset a lot of lobbyists.

The really cool thing is that while time is passing more and more politicians will be from a new generation who have downloaded music themselves for their whole life. I really think this is the final years of music lobbying in Scandinavia. Hopefully Europe will follow and after that Asia as well... maybe one day even USA as well.

[captiosus]

At least those money hogging bastards arent going after aXXo. And in the VERY UNLIKELY event thepiratebay does go down, i bet 50 bucks and all the shiat i have downloaded that another tracker will spring up to take their place. LONG LIVE THE PIRATE BAY!!!!!

[Penthero]

At least those money hogging bastards arent going after aXXo. And in the VERY UNLIKELY event thepiratebay does go down, i bet 50 bucks and all the shiat i have downloaded that another tracker will spring up to take their place. LONG LIVE THE PIRATE BAY!!!!!

tpb won't go down even if they're found guilty, they've(tpb) said it themselves that this trial doesn't matter at all. Tpb ain't even in Sweden anymore so nothing they can do about it.

[Unsubv]

I think the trial is important not because it would make the Piratebay disappear which it could not do but because it will show whether the Swedish Government will bow to pressure from US big business over the rights and freedoms of their own citizens.

I just want to say thanks to all the Swedes and Scandinavians who work so hard making the web free from big business and not just another "revenue stream" to suck money out of consumers.

The US laws are insane. 100 year copyrightes for things like superman and Disney!

Imagine a world where satire is illegal If the US gets what the money scumbags want it is a death knell for creativity.
Alan Moore's "League Of Extraordinary Gentleman"   would be banned because it would violate "copyright" and in fact the latest version was banned in the US and Canada because it has James Bond in it. It has been 40 years and dozens of movies and books yet they still NEED a total ban on anyone using the character? I am surprised they have not copyrighten the bible and banned anyone from making films about Jesus without paying royalties and getting studio approval.

[zherok]

http://www.amazon.com/League-Extraordinary-Gentlemen-Black-Dossier/dp/140120306X

I can still buy it on Amazon apparently. Wikipedia says it's not sold outside the US though, due to copyright issues. The third volume isn't set in Victorian times and uses more modern characters. The James Bond character is a pretty thinly veiled variant (although a pretty major fuck up, personality-wise) named Jimmy Bond.

[Unsubv]

Yeah I bought it here in Canada through Amazon ,awesome 3d art by the way.
If the US studios get their way art like LOEG would never exist. Dracula and his girlfriend , the Invisible man ,Jekyll and Hyde etc would all be studfio property if thewy had the same copyright laws then as they do now and their is no way they would let Hyde do what he does to the invisible man in the second book!

[AceHigh]

At least those money hogging bastards arent going after aXXo. And in the VERY UNLIKELY event thepiratebay does go down, i bet 50 bucks and all the shiat i have downloaded that another tracker will spring up to take their place. LONG LIVE THE PIRATE BAY!!!!!

Don't mention that asshole. aXXo is stealing other people's work on the scene and releases it with his own name on it. He is a Scene stealer thus breaking ethical rules of filesharing not to mention Scene's own rules. I hope he will be caught and taken down so that scene release groups with real skills will get the credit they deserve for their hard work.

[Unsubv]

I like AXXO ,"the scene" generally only releases their stuff on private trackers that are not available to most people.
I think it's great that AXXO is letting the general public in on it especially as what he is known for is new hollywood releases
that really appeal to the general public. It is ironic that people complain that he stole something from them that they stole in the first place.

AXXO is like Robin Hood ,stealing from "The scene" and giving to the noobs.

His stuff is perfectly designed for the average consumer as well. I doubt any single person has taken a bigger bite out of Hollywoods bottom
line than him either because the people who download AXXO's low bitrate new releases are exactly the ones who used to go to the video store.
The Hollywood lobby could really care less about scenesters and their private trackers. At least that was the case. I have to admit AXXO and friends have
created a LOT of heat.

It would be nice if the actual encoders got the credit but they were not putting anything up on PB and even when they did not at such a crappy small filesize
for the average PC user.

And don't think for a second the big studios don't want AXXO's head in a gift basket!
 

[HazukiChan]

Doesn't he have several other people releasing stuff in his name as well? I heard he was exclusive to Demonoid now, yet torrents with the axxo name are all over the place. And, even on TPB, some people are saying the same thing as Dragoon AceHigh just did, so he is not without controversy.

[quekmeister]

NZ delays filesharing law for Fry.

RIAA/MPAA >= Big Brother. (In Ireland at least.)
Well, it's not like anyone there comes out of the pub to torrent stuff anyway. 

Precedent? Hmm...

More hypocrisy fail for IFPI and friends.

[captiosus]

^ Ill check it later, have to get my fat ass to bed LOL

[quekmeister]

IFPI = I Fail at Prosecuting almost Intentionally.

[Keevtara]

    Gottfrid: Before taking the screenshot, did you turn off DHT and Peer Exchange?

    Mårtensson: DHT was obviously on. I wanted to be like an average user.

    Gottfrid: So in other words, you can’t check if the tracker was used?

    Mårtensson: The tracker address was visible on the screen. From that I assumed it was used in some way.

    Gottfrid: But since you had DHT on, you have no possibility to state to the court as to whether The Pirate Bay’s tracker was actually used or not?

    Mårtensson: No.

I lawl at this.

[Pzc]

In the midst of all the coverage of the TPB trial a new
service called OneSwarm has arrived and fueled some
forum discussions regarding downloading and privacy.

Interesting it was completed/announced at this time.

[captiosus]

well. ill say that TPB has a greater than 99% chance of winning this at the moment. Dumbass prosecutors dont even know what they are talking about, and it shows.

[AceHigh]

Did anyone even have any doubt? Of course if this would happen in USA it would be a different matter because the prosecutors and lawyers would be way more competent (they have a lot of experience  ) also the laws are different and the general public opinion would be on the music industry side.

So they rushed in with this case riding on their high horse and now realize that Swedish courtroom is a different matter and making drama without proof doesn't work.

[HazukiChan]

IFPI = I Fail at Prosecuting almost Intentionally.

too funny.
Yes, good thing that trial was not held here in the US , the place where we sue,(McDonald's) when we spill hot coffee in our crotch (that's what the cup holder is for moron) because no one told us it was too hot!!!
And she won that case.