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Apple releases new... everything
iindigo:
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--- Quote from: molbjerg on March 09, 2009, 09:15:43 AM ---
--- Quote from: iindigo on March 06, 2009, 02:15:49 PM ---"better side of computing" my arse. Macs are for idiots.
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That's personal opinion. Ironically, I've found that OS X generally does less hand holding and expects the user to be more technically adept than Windows does, which is odd considering that Macs are supposedly better for computer noobs than Windows is.
Besides, going to Windows means giving up my commandline (cmd.exe is a poor excuse), which is something I'm not willing to do >_>
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What?? i use windows and i have all the commandline i want. CMD.EXE is still in windows, and its a handy thing too. Windows comandline tools are the same as in macs, basically, they just run stuff from a specified set of paramiters. All are the same, windows command line tools just mean you have to be a bit more experienced in how to use them.
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Well more accurately, the Mac commandline is exactly like that of any other Linux or UNIX distro, which happen to be very powerful when in the hands of someone knowledgeable.
As for the power of cmd.exe, what all does it come standard with? Can I use sudo to force things the system doesn't normally allow because of permissions? Can I use it to SSH into other machines and control them remotely? Does it have the full arsenal of file management tools (including batch permission changing)? Does it allow full control of open processes, allowing you to kill them no matter what or limiting their processor usage to a certain amount, or even temporarily "freeze" or pause a processor-heavy app? I could go on and on.
molbjerg:
You could drag any of the files out of their position in the project, which will obviously break things, and leave you trawling through folders to find where it is since undo usually never works.
And on to the commandline etc. few people seem to accept that a GUI is just a tiny part of an OS. Well, it is for me, since I use windows and don't have explorer running... I use Litestep which has a good commandline implementation, not to mention customisability which drives windows and mac into the ground. (here is the GUI I made/use: http://www.xan-creations.com/xandos/flvxandos.html)
I have a good interface AND compatibility.
iindigo:
Undo has always worked perfectly for me under Mac OS. Can't say the same for Windows.
And that UI looks alright, but isn't quite my cup of tea. Too compact, at least in my opinion. I have messed around with various alternative desktops on Windows before (litestep, bb4win, emerge, etc) and most of them take too long to get them exactly the way I like them. I'd prefer to just be able to boot up off of a clean install and have everything set up "my way" within 10 minutes.
molbjerg:
The undo problem is not a problem of windows in general, it is just generally a problem. Even ridiculous programs like 3D Studio etc. often can't deal with all of the eventualities it needs to be able to undo.
My interface is pretty irrelevent, what I mean is that on windows you can ultimately control what your interface is - can you do the same on mac? Not that I've heard. But then, mac people aren't exactly the sort of people who customise anything, so it seems pretty weird making the fact that osx is sort of customisable a selling point versus windows.
As for getting it all working quickly, if I reinstall windows I have my interface running in 5 minutes, the trouble is that it took about a year to develop! But if you didn't care about things being EXACTLY as you wanted them there are plenty of possibilities out there, themes that others have made. Certainly, I wouldn't consider even an hour setting up your interface as a negative point against an OS, as that one hour setting up will probably be 0.00001% of the time you spend on your computer. You have to do it once, it's not like you have to do it every time you turn on the computer...
Stsin:
Is that Directory Opus similar to the one on the Amiga? Now that's something I've missed. Windows Explorer is so backwards when you've used a file management program like Directory Opus.
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