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sdedalus83:
Where Apple did have considerable interest followed by catastrophic failure were the server and HPC markets. I see that happening with workstations as well if the current Mac Pro is an indication of how they plan to approach that market in the future. Neither pixar nor the most retarded of affluent mac fanatics are big enough to justify continued production.
bloody000:
--- Quote from: iindigo on May 25, 2009, 11:27:06 AM ---In my eyes, two things are keeping Apple out of the enterprise market:
1. No cheapass computer to be bought en masse for employees. The Mac mini comes closest, but is still about $300 or $400 more expensive than the $200 and $300 junkboxes Dell will sell them.
2. Companies are unwilling to rewrite their inhouse software. So many companies make extensive use of custom-built in-house software. This wouldn't be bad, except this software is typically written hundreds of times worse than your average consumer application and leans on very specific parts of Windows - we're talking legacy code that should have been axed years ago. Sometimes these applications even require IE 5 or 6 to run.
So even if Apple did try to cater to that market, it wouldn't do them all that much good since these companies won't want to pay someone to rewrite their software. Apple would not only have to match or best Dell, etc in the cost sector but also have to pay the company or offer some other huge incentive to get them to even --consider-- switching.
And now you see why Apple has little interest in enterprise.
Also, keep in mind that despite the state of the economy and Apple's lackluster marketing, consumer marketshare is still slowly shifting towards Macs. At this point, Apple has approx. 10% of the entire internet-using population, up from 5-6% a few years ago.
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Point 1: machines for employees are dumb terminals of modern era. they have to be cheap.
Point 2: That doesn't stop people from using solutions from Red Hat/Novell/whatever. Using doesn't mean switching. Badly written crap is badly written crap, what makes you think that if they were using RHEL all along they would have better code? and don't give me that "but they use RHEL they must be smart enough to not hire some fail-filled college students" ::)
*that's mio from k-on!
furuoshiki:
Bloody000 - Off topic but Dude your avatar looks like a girl that has the psychic power to give herself orgasms on command. Almost like Carrie anime-style. What series or website is it from?
Either way all of this sounds really fucked up. I mean Legacy applications are out of my ballpark to begin with but I can't think of a reason why companies would try and create software that can't change with the times...Is it all to protect patents or something? I think the money saved from migrating to more efficient modules or standards would outweigh the costs you lose in the rewriting and migration process.
Besides won't Windows 7 have an XP mode anyways? That should make firms happy.
flaresignal:
--- Quote from: furuoshiki on May 26, 2009, 12:34:30 AM ---Either way all of this sounds really fucked up. I mean Legacy applications are out of my ballpark to begin with but I can't think of a reason why companies would try and create software that can't change with the times...Is it all to protect patents or something? I think the money saved from migrating to more efficient modules or standards would outweigh the costs you lose in the rewriting and migration process.
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The applications were probably written on a "get it working first, future-proof it later" principle, instead of anything deliberately nefarious. Once there's enough weight behind a legacy app, migrating to something different (or rewriting) becomes a pain because some behaviors aren't exactly the same, or there's too much data and too many users to make a smooth transition.
furuoshiki:
Beginning to sound a lot like American politics to me :(
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