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Too Much Fanservice?
dbml:
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--- Quote from: dbml on March 21, 2009, 02:06:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on March 20, 2009, 10:30:44 PM ---fanservice = the root of anime.
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LIIIIIIEEEESSSSS!!!! Like, 90% of all the best anime I've watched are sorely lacking in the fanservice department. Drama + tears > the occasional boob shot + panty shot.
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Which makes me wonder, is there such a thing as dramatic fanservice?
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Hm. That's a very good question. I'd think not... but I guess that can be up to debate. Example, I believe that Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and Elfen Lied have practically no fanservice whatsoever, regardless of how much skin is shown in them. I don't believe the nudity in either of them is meant to turn you on, it's just part of the show. Whereas Mahoromatic is FULL of fanservice.
zherok:
--- Quote from: dbml on March 21, 2009, 02:30:50 AM ---Hm. That's a very good question. I'd think not... but I guess that can be up to debate. Example, I believe that Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and Elfen Lied have practically no fanservice whatsoever, regardless of how much skin is shown in them. I don't believe the nudity in either of them is meant to turn you on, it's just part of the show. Whereas Mahoromatic is FULL of fanservice.
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I think inevitably fan service can be defined as "unnecessary" content, invariably for the purpose of pleasing fans. Nudity in and of itself is not fan service, but a beach or onsen scene in an anime that would otherwise have little or nothing to do with it would be, even if they involved no nudity.
As for dramatic fan service, I think the two would be mutually exclusive goals. I don't see how you would reasonably go about creating a "good" dramatic moment that is unnecessary for the plot, while also pleasing fans. It would be like creating filler content not because you overshot the manga, but to create a dramatic scene that had no relevance to anything else. It could probably be done but it would require an absurdest attitude to pull it off. Like dropping a short film into the middle of an anime that had nothing to do with the short film's subject.
quekmeister:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on March 20, 2009, 02:42:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: quekmeister on March 20, 2009, 01:50:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on March 20, 2009, 01:23:07 AM ---KAGAMI HIIRAGI! Fanservice in the avatar. Enjoy.
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*drool* I don't know which pic of her I like more, your avvie or the bashful miko.
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miko? who's that?
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Miko... Shrine maiden. Kagami is one. Her miko outfit is moe.
iindigo:
--- Quote from: zherok on March 21, 2009, 02:59:50 AM ---As for dramatic fan service, I think the two would be mutually exclusive goals. I don't see how you would reasonably go about creating a "good" dramatic moment that is unnecessary for the plot, while also pleasing fans. It would be like creating filler content not because you overshot the manga, but to create a dramatic scene that had no relevance to anything else. It could probably be done but it would require an absurdest attitude to pull it off. Like dropping a short film into the middle of an anime that had nothing to do with the short film's subject.
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It could work in an episodic anime, I think. I agree that it would difficult to pull off in an anime with a rolling storyline, though.
dbml:
--- Quote from: zherok on March 21, 2009, 02:59:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: dbml on March 21, 2009, 02:30:50 AM ---Hm. That's a very good question. I'd think not... but I guess that can be up to debate. Example, I believe that Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and Elfen Lied have practically no fanservice whatsoever, regardless of how much skin is shown in them. I don't believe the nudity in either of them is meant to turn you on, it's just part of the show. Whereas Mahoromatic is FULL of fanservice.
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I think inevitably fan service can be defined as "unnecessary" content, invariably for the purpose of pleasing fans. Nudity in and of itself is not fan service, but a beach or onsen scene in an anime that would otherwise have little or nothing to do with it would be, even if they involved no nudity.
As for dramatic fan service, I think the two would be mutually exclusive goals. I don't see how you would reasonably go about creating a "good" dramatic moment that is unnecessary for the plot, while also pleasing fans. It would be like creating filler content not because you overshot the manga, but to create a dramatic scene that had no relevance to anything else. It could probably be done but it would require an absurdest attitude to pull it off. Like dropping a short film into the middle of an anime that had nothing to do with the short film's subject.
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Yes, that does make sense. So in other words, dramatic fanservice is unlikely to ever exist without seeming completely out of place.
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