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Re: Aion
« Reply #240 on: October 14, 2009, 07:17:32 AM »
I hated that you had to find a certain word in the manual.. was it when you played it or installed it? I forget. =/
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Re: Aion
« Reply #241 on: October 14, 2009, 07:55:47 AM »
By that logic, unless you're playing an MMOFPS, or MMOR, I'm pretty sure that every MMO in existence is an Ultima clone.
Ultima as in Ultima Online? Right, most theme parks are clones of a sandbox... ::)

Most XP-based systems are clones of an use-based systems...

So let's stop with the WoW-clone bullshit, because it's just the same as saying that every FPS ever made is a Doom clone, or every racer ever made is a... well, you get the point.

Seriously, it wasn't accurate five years ago, and it still isn't accurate today. Knock it off already.
Look, it's just a way to describe the archetype. Another term would be theme park but there are theme parks that are very unlike WoW's design so I find using theme parks, for that, to not really be accurate. For me, "WoW clone" does not carry a pejorative baggage. It would be silly to expect all MMOs to be revolutionary and quite different one from another. It's just a way to point out that X or Y game has not really purpose something vastly different from what has been offered in the last five years.


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Re: Aion
« Reply #242 on: October 15, 2009, 02:58:18 PM »
I dunno about how I feel with Aion atm...

I like it, but I don't have much motivation to play it.  (Kinda MMO'd out at the moment)

And the more I log on to play it, the more I just want to find something else to do...


But (as I said) I think it's just me needing a break from the genre.

Take a few months off and play some console games that what I did when I quit wow and was much happier for it. It works really great if you like Rpgs like I did since I had like 8 back logged when I quit Wow. Im actually enjoying Aion but im sorta a sucker for the whole grind thing. The quests and stuff is pretty good until 20ish but then there is alot more grinding so if thats not your cup of tea you probably wont like it so much.

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Re: Aion
« Reply #243 on: October 16, 2009, 09:27:35 AM »
my therapy from WoW:

my GF said she will miss my shammy ownimg taurens (my shammy was Draenei female) wich didn't help me but she liked seeing me doing all that specially ot tauren wariors :D
my buddies from wow MSNed me all the time so that l was to go back lol, that didn't help much eighter :]
l uninstalled wow, that helped, now even if l wanted to it's a pain to instal and patch it up :D
l went to get another job (currently l have 3 jobs)
l spend a lot more time with my gf and friends
l spend a lot of time with anime as well, especially echii anime helped me out, skipping the echiiness it's quite funny
l play on my PS2 and PC instead of thinking about my shammy, but l still miss her, l started a drawing from the last screenie l did to comemmorate her, and gonna post it later on my guild forum.

it's best to do something else than thinking about MMO games when you were hooked to em.

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Re: Aion
« Reply #244 on: October 16, 2009, 09:55:34 AM »
I was addicted to WoW. I went out at midnight to buy Wotlk, and I leveled from 70-80 in ~4 days (not because I'm fast, but because I played like 24 hours a day). I saw a video of Aion back in January and uninstalled WoW. My only regret was that I had just applied a 60 day game card a week ago.
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Re: Aion
« Reply #245 on: October 16, 2009, 10:45:40 AM »
lol thats a bummer for you, l personally don't like the many things in Aion, for instance, they tried to follow WoW in multi classing one class, WoW did it in talents, Tank/dps/healer was resolved here awkwardly to me, as far as l see it, you gain a class change when you hit a specciffic level, l'm kinda tired of this kind of change wich was actually pleasant in Ragnarok Online but every other game with this simply tired me out, and l think WoWs idea of simple talents was the most perfect that way.

Aion has too little classes to choose from, and personally l think thats quite unballanced, little veriety in this matter, WoW on the other hand had slightlty a lot classes (10 as it is now) and ballancing them out was very hard and still is, but at least you had enough of frontline meatbags (melee) enough heaers (shamans/priests/paladins/druids) and enough ranged annoyance in heavy boss fights, like mages, hunters, locks also so called hybrid classes like paladins shamans druids and priests as healers were very welcome however when they were tank/dps specced it was sometimes annoying unless there wasn't a lot of them in the group, especially paladins, since on my server, every instance seemed to love paladins anyways, so it was a paladin paradise for looting.

as a shaman l loved being in the center of attention when l was DPSing and some idiot tank lost aggro and a healer died, l was a backup healer thanks to being elemental with enough spellpower to actually support the raid group long enough for a druid to revive the fallen healer (or a paladin to sacrifice himself on me so l could ress teh healer but then healing wasn't enough)

that aspect was great if you pugged in raids, especially surprise puling by me ;]

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Re: Aion
« Reply #246 on: October 16, 2009, 05:42:54 PM »
Look, it's just a way to describe the archetype. Another term would be theme park but there are theme parks that are very unlike WoW's design so I find using theme parks, for that, to not really be accurate. For me, "WoW clone" does not carry a pejorative baggage. It would be silly to expect all MMOs to be revolutionary and quite different one from another. It's just a way to point out that X or Y game has not really purpose something vastly different from what has been offered in the last five years.
Right, but if 99% of all MMO's are very similar, just with a different wrapping, why are we comparing them all to WoW? Why not just call them an MMO? Everyone knows that they're all similar, so why specify a particular one?

The same thing goes for any other genre where similar stigmas exist. Halo is a really good example. Every shooter released since 2001 one has been called a Halo-clone at some point, which I think is really dumb. Unless the game is literally an exact copy with different art or something, it can't be called a "clone". Shit, even then, it technically isn't a clone, because a clone would be the exact same thing.

All I'm asking is that we do away with that kind of close-minded mentality. I think it makes us all look like idiots, and doesn't help the genre get anywhere.

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Re: Aion
« Reply #247 on: October 16, 2009, 05:50:58 PM »
Right, but if 99% of all MMO's are very similar, just with a different wrapping, why are we comparing them all to WoW? Why not just call them an MMO?
Because it's not true that 99% of all MMOs are very similar to WoW.

There are several archetypes of MMOs and what is called "WoW clones" is only one of them. It's not even the summation of all "theme parks" as there are theme parks that are quite different from WoW in their gameplay and design. Then are sandboxes, MMOFPSes, MMORTSes, so on and so forth. Simply labeling them MMOs would not do.

It would not fulfill the same function as the two expressions are not synonymous (or even close to).

Don't get me wrong; I'm not a fan of the term but it does have a use.



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Re: Aion
« Reply #248 on: October 16, 2009, 05:52:19 PM »
l really loved Ragnarok Online, simple, easy, lotsa fun.

think l'll go and check it out again

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Re: Aion
« Reply #249 on: October 17, 2009, 01:34:00 AM »
Because it's not true that 99% of all MMOs are very similar to WoW.
Er, I meant "If 99% of MMORPGs are very similar, just with a different wrapping, why are we comparing them all to WoW? Why not just call them an MMORPG?"

Probably should've been more specific, sorry about that. >_>

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Re: Aion
« Reply #250 on: October 17, 2009, 04:49:56 AM »
best rates for Ragnarok
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Re: Aion
« Reply #251 on: October 17, 2009, 05:52:06 AM »
I kind of feel like im in the same page as some of you.

Maybe cause I grew up? I dont know. . .work friends n school arent the same now than how they were back in the days of wow (first one).

School mostly. . .now i DO have to study (for those who visit the "help w homework" thread.)

I like playing Aion. . .but I dont feel addicted as  I did while playing WoW.

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Re: Aion
« Reply #252 on: October 17, 2009, 07:29:57 AM »
yeah well, l feel nothing after watching a few movies on youtube and it didn't impress me at all.

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Re: Aion
« Reply #253 on: October 17, 2009, 11:51:14 AM »
Because it's not true that 99% of all MMOs are very similar to WoW.
Er, I meant "If 99% of MMORPGs are very similar, just with a different wrapping, why are we comparing them all to WoW? Why not just call them an MMORPG?"

Probably should've been more specific, sorry about that. >_>
Even if you remove the non-MMORPGs, you've got still a large portion of MMOs that would not fit the description of what is usually called "a WoW clone". While "WoW clones" are trendy right now, there is still a large sample of sandbox MMORPGs out there that are so unlike WoW's design (Asheron's Call, SWG, Ultima Online and EVE Online just to name four).

It's probably not the best term but it's a term most people understand, and it has a use.

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Re: Aion
« Reply #254 on: October 17, 2009, 12:01:41 PM »
and thus a thread about Aion, went in the direction of WoW-Clone definition, hmm, close ? or go back to the main topic ?

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Re: Aion
« Reply #255 on: October 18, 2009, 11:47:37 PM »
I hit lvl 22 5 minutes ago. . .then i teleported into pandemonium and (again) crashed!

my new plate boots rox your sox. . .


Now im completely lost. . .can any daeva be kind enough to point me where to go now!? I only find over 23 and under 20. . .what happened to 21-22. . .dont tell me i have to grind myself to 23?

Asmodian FTW BTW
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Re: Aion
« Reply #256 on: October 21, 2009, 05:54:53 AM »
You spend a decent amount of your level grinding.

Edit: Starting around level 35ish I'd say. There are some spots up to 35 where you won't find too many quests. I've just been skipping quests for the most part post-40, I just solo/group grind now. I'm at 46 and a half. =D
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Re: Aion
« Reply #257 on: October 21, 2009, 12:46:05 PM »
You start to grind around 20, imo. Too bad that you have to grind actually :(

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Re: Aion
« Reply #258 on: October 21, 2009, 12:57:15 PM »
If you have to grind pre-30 you're doing something wrong.

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« Reply #259 on: October 21, 2009, 01:05:33 PM »
Well, I do every quest I can find. If there are hidden quests out in the open then I have to find them... Try to kill the mobs which are 1-2 levels above mine if I have to kill them for my quests (which is normally true^^). If there is an opportunity to gather ingredients for my jobs I gather them (though it isn't my focus atm).

If I counted right then there were only 4 quests for lv22 :( so tell me how to get to lv23 without doing lv23 quests and grinding.

The repeatable quests... well, not very efficient, imo.

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