Author Topic: Aion (Read 41624 times)

Sosseres · « **Reply #40 on:** July 23, 2009, 02:00:03 AM »

I still fail to see the distinction. As MMOs are constructed they try to get in as many different ways to play it as they can. Then it is up to you what you do in that world. If you follow the path the developer wants or not isn't of any relevance in an MMO you can still progress without it, if you want to. If you want to spend all your time as a wandering minstrel, crafting and never fighting a single opponent you can do that...

That there is a direction isn't of relevance for sandbox, only if you are forced to follow it. As in for example KotOR where you can't get to the next area/world until you complete certain quests.

Examples from when I played everquest 2, I didn't leave the beginner area for a week, I didn't want to, wasn't forced. Simply grew bored and moved on. When I got through I spent an entire day in the city using emotes and chat to beg for money (was a lot of fun). Neither of which any direction had asked me to do...

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 25, 2009, 01:56:01 AM »

Quote from: Sosseres on July 23, 2009, 02:00:03 AM

I still fail to see the distinction. As MMOs are constructed they try to get in as many different ways to play it as they can. Then it is up to you what you do in that world. If you follow the path the developer wants or not isn't of any relevance in an MMO you can still progress without it, if you want to. If you want to spend all your time as a wandering minstrel, crafting and never fighting a single opponent you can do that...

That there is a direction isn't of relevance for sandbox, only if you are forced to follow it. As in for example KotOR where you can't get to the next area/world until you complete certain quests.

Examples from when I played everquest 2, I didn't leave the beginner area for a week, I didn't want to, wasn't forced. Simply grew bored and moved on. When I got through I spent an entire day in the city using emotes and chat to beg for money (was a lot of fun). Neither of which any direction had asked me to do...

god how i hated when some random guy came up to me in wow to get some gold. . .

logos · « **Reply #42 on:** July 28, 2009, 03:35:32 AM »

Quote from: Sosseres on July 23, 2009, 02:00:03 AM

I still fail to see the distinction. As MMOs are constructed they try to get in as many different ways to play it as they can. Then it is up to you what you do in that world. If you follow the path the developer wants or not isn't of any relevance in an MMO you can still progress without it, if you want to. If you want to spend all your time as a wandering minstrel, crafting and never fighting a single opponent you can do that...

That there is a direction isn't of relevance for sandbox, only if you are forced to follow it. As in for example KotOR where you can't get to the next area/world until you complete certain quests.

Examples from when I played everquest 2, I didn't leave the beginner area for a week, I didn't want to, wasn't forced. Simply grew bored and moved on. When I got through I spent an entire day in the city using emotes and chat to beg for money (was a lot of fun). Neither of which any direction had asked me to do...

the difference between sandbox and regular mmorpg is the same as the difference between morrowind and mass effect, sure it is possible to go out and do something different in a WoWish mmo, but it's not very fun for a long term investment, in most mmo's you quest to level (grinding usually being way slower), instance with some random people, gain new stuff based off of class restrictions and join a guild for no apparent reason.
The point of a sandbox rpg is that there really isn't any leveling (if it's morrowind-esque like I said before) the only restrictions in travel are if you have the skills necessary to go there..and maybe a scroll of wind walking...no class restrictions, if you wanna be a mage wearing full heavy armor weilding a 2handed battle axe, then go for it.
So mostly I just dislike class and level restrictions on gear and not being able to go wherever I want unless I'm a certain level, I mean WoW is better than most but having a cery slowly expanding range is boring, I wanna go exploring, fly around with a levitation spell in the first hour of play and drop down outta the sky, crack open a dremora's skull and steal his soul with Umbra.

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 28, 2009, 05:20:08 PM »

5th beta starts soon. . .

i dont like this 3 day beta things. . .

i remember the wow open beta was 7 days. . .that gives you time to lvl. . .i only reached 11 on beta 4

Penthero · « **Reply #44 on:** July 28, 2009, 07:36:03 PM »

Quote from: GoGeTa006 on July 28, 2009, 05:20:08 PM

5th beta starts soon. . .

i dont like this 3 day beta things. . .

i remember the wow open beta was 7 days. . .that gives you time to lvl. . .i only reached 11 on beta 4

Well this is closed beta so it's not solid to compare it to open beta which Aion will have later.
Doing 1->25 aren't all that horrible in 3days, 1-30 though is very horrible, most likely not alot of player will get and actually try the lvl30 stuff as beta is 1.0. If it follows what the korean beta were, CBT#6 will most likely also be 1-30 only in order for people to actually have enough time to check the lvl30 content.
I will level a new char instead of going for 30 though, want to decide what class I gonna play in retail as I do not like to spend time rerolling alot of alts there.

warped · « **Reply #45 on:** July 30, 2009, 10:30:16 AM »

The Japanese voices for Aion; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vudwycoB7nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWzCT-JuO6M&feature=related
I laughed my ass of listening to this.

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 30, 2009, 05:12:13 PM »

Quote from: warped on July 30, 2009, 10:30:16 AM

The Japanese voices for Aion; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vudwycoB7nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWzCT-JuO6M&feature=related
I laughed my ass of listening to this.

on the beta i didnt know you could choose a voice and i got this totally BUFF BIG MACHO! warrior but he had like a goblin's voice!

Penthero · « **Reply #47 on:** July 30, 2009, 05:58:14 PM »

Quote from: warped on July 30, 2009, 10:30:16 AM

The Japanese voices for Aion; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vudwycoB7nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWzCT-JuO6M&feature=related
I laughed my ass of listening to this.

Atleast they're better then the english voices which we've been patched with, I think the female voices sound very similiar and lack variety, especielly for chibi-characters.

chubbysumo · « **Reply #48 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:52:33 PM »

im currently playing in the beta tests. The game is amazing. The details are awsome, and the actual gameplay is really good. If you arent in the betas, you can prereserve a copy of the game, and you get in on all the betas. There is one more confirmed beta test, and then you get a 48 hour head start to everyone else.

chubbysumo · « **Reply #49 on:** July 31, 2009, 02:16:07 PM »

also, the point of the betas now is just to find spelling errors on NPC's, and find small bugs, like invisible walls and the like. The level cab has been raised to 25, and they are now letting oyu into the abyss for this weekends 5th beta. I spent 3 hours customising my character. The character creator is like the creator from Oblivion. You can control every aspect of your charcters look, from the the way the nose pionts, to the size of the hands and feet. Its a really in depth creator, and its about time that it was put into an mmo. And its not just you whos looks that good. Every charcter looks that good, even NPCs and rival factions. They kept the graphics amazing, and the gameplay is even better than *cough* WoW*cough*. as of now, i have suspended my WoW account and intend to play this. im on israphel, elyos, and my name is chubbysum0. Im currently a level 12 scout.

Penthero · « **Reply #50 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:23:07 PM »

Quote from: chubbysumo on July 31, 2009, 02:16:07 PM

also, the point of the betas now is just to find spelling errors on NPC's, and find small bugs, like invisible walls and the like. The level cab has been raised to 25, and they are now letting oyu into the abyss for this weekends 5th beta. I spent 3 hours customising my character. The character creator is like the creator from Oblivion. You can control every aspect of your charcters look, from the the way the nose pionts, to the size of the hands and feet. Its a really in depth creator, and its about time that it was put into an mmo. And its not just you whos looks that good. Every charcter looks that good, even NPCs and rival factions. They kept the graphics amazing, and the gameplay is even better than *cough* WoW*cough*. as of now, i have suspended my WoW account and intend to play this. im on israphel, elyos, and my name is chubbysum0. Im currently a level 12 scout.

In 1.5 you can customize even more, length of arms/legs etc, so you can make good dwarves if you feel like it. Also most invisibile walls been fixed with the korean launch, most of this is localisation as you mentioned.
Lvl12 scout? how about go and do your ascension quest and become ranger/assassin?

maltime · « **Reply #51 on:** August 05, 2009, 02:16:24 PM »

Gonna give it a shot, probably going to pre-order a copy.

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By the sounds of things so far it seems like a good game. Hopefully i can get into it so i can finally -gasp-, stop playing WoW

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Mele · « **Reply #52 on:** August 05, 2009, 10:06:46 PM »

GoGamer had a 48 hour deal for the full collector's edition with preorder code for only $39.99. I jumped on that shit. Unfortunately with the size of my HD I won't be able to play the beta until I get a new one.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #53 on:** August 05, 2009, 10:20:33 PM »

For everyone that has played this game... how is it so far? Is it similar to WoW? Is it really demanding on hardware? And how big is the game in general?

Penthero · « **Reply #54 on:** August 06, 2009, 04:05:31 AM »

Quote from: TMRNetShark on August 05, 2009, 10:20:33 PM

For everyone that has played this game... how is it so far? Is it similar to WoW? Is it really demanding on hardware? And how big is the game in general?

It has similarities to wow, but the biggest difference is that they haven't split up pvp and pve like wow(instances, bg,arena etc) and it's more based on world bosses, world pvp. Yes there are group/raid instanced but not many compared to the world bosses.
It's not demanding on hardware, I run 40-50fps in group and solo(I admit I have lnoger loading time than others) with 3ghz singlecore and 1gb RAM and a cappy graphic card( radeon 9800 pro), though when I engage in bigger pvp(30v30 and above) I suffer pretty heavy fps loss ~10-15fps. You can check system req on wiki or other places through google.
It's not as big as wow area-wise, compared it's pretty small, atleast in version 1.0, though that's understandable as big areas will spread out world pvp etc, which can hurt it.

kyanwan · « **Reply #55 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:13:28 AM »

I was looking to maybe start WoW - and I saw that Aion may be better.

So I looked it up on Wikipedia.

Korean made.

I guess it's settled, Aion sucks a fat dick. I'm never touching another shitsucking assfucking piece of fuckcrap Korean MMO shit game ever again.

It's like manhwa or whatver - it looks good, but it always ends up sucking an AIDS asshole.

Quote from: TMRNetShark on August 05, 2009, 10:20:33 PM

For everyone that has played this game... how is it so far? Is it similar to WoW? Is it really demanding on hardware? And how big is the game in general?

Let me give you a predicted summary of gameplay:

- Collect 50 rat penises.
- Collect 100 bear testicles.
- Collect 150 vials of flying fish sperm.
- Collect 200 of mountain rat penises
- Collect 500 glowing bear testicles
- Collect 1000 vials of super flying fishes sperms.
- Rimjob and slay boss monster glorious glowing slutgirl riding flying bear fish.

Graphical features - photorealistic breasts and frilly underpants, with extra sexy Koreans like European girl look for player models, more sexy graphics and flashy colors for your masturbation enjoyment.

Meanwhile, the gameplay is a rotten STD anus, seeping its goodness all over your hands and face.

( I predict: Korean quality: sucks dick, as usual. )

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 06, 2009, 08:14:48 AM »

Quote from: kyanwan on August 06, 2009, 06:13:28 AM

I was looking to maybe start WoW - and I saw that Aion may be better.

So I looked it up on Wikipedia.

Korean made.

I guess it's settled, Aion sucks a fat dick. I'm never touching another shitsucking assfucking piece of fuckcrap Korean MMO shit game ever again.

It's like manhwa or whatver - it looks good, but it always ends up sucking an AIDS asshole.

Quote from: TMRNetShark on August 05, 2009, 10:20:33 PM
For everyone that has played this game... how is it so far? Is it similar to WoW? Is it really demanding on hardware? And how big is the game in general?

Let me give you a predicted summary of gameplay:

- Collect 50 rat penises.
- Collect 100 bear testicles.
- Collect 150 vials of flying fish sperm.
- Collect 200 of mountain rat penises
- Collect 500 glowing bear testicles
- Collect 1000 vials of super flying fishes sperms.
- Rimjob and slay boss monster glorious glowing slutgirl riding flying bear fish.

Graphical features - photorealistic breasts and frilly underpants, with extra sexy Koreans like European girl look for player models, more sexy graphics and flashy colors for your masturbation enjoyment.

Meanwhile, the gameplay is a rotten STD anus, seeping its goodness all over your hands and face.

( I predict: Korean quality: sucks dick, as usual. )

good one!
but thats the beauty of aion
it already exists in korea. . .this is the american/euro version that we're talking about and IF i must say its far from being a grind-fest. . .I was able to lvl up by questing really easy.

Quote from: TMRNetShark on August 05, 2009, 10:20:33 PM

For everyone that has played this game... how is it so far? Is it similar to WoW? Is it really demanding on hardware? And how big is the game in general?

It is REALLY similar to wow. . .I played WoW, then I played Warhammer . . . I liked warhammer but I didnt get the grasp of it (it was different than wow) but this thing is basically the same thing. It has better stuff tho.

- amazing spell graphics
- wings

- more pvpve (less instances)
<. . . . >
havent played it that much (2 chars on lvl 11)
I like it so far. its pretty wowish. . . and from what i heard from a friend (who plays MMO's since everquest) he says that wow is a n00b MMO (easy to handle n get the grasp without being addcited) . . .Aion is like that too

kyanwan · « **Reply #57 on:** August 06, 2009, 10:23:36 AM »

Quote from: GoGeTa006 on August 06, 2009, 08:14:48 AM

It is REALLY similar to wow. . .I played WoW, then I played Warhammer . . . I liked warhammer but I didnt get the grasp of it (it was different than wow) but this thing is basically the same thing. It has better stuff tho.

- amazing spell graphics
- wings
- more pvpve (less instances)
<. . . . >
havent played it that much (2 chars on lvl 11)
I like it so far. its pretty wowish. . . and from what i heard from a friend (who plays MMO's since everquest) he says that wow is a n00b MMO (easy to handle n get the grasp without being addcited) . . .Aion is like that too

I dunno. Anything game related that is "made-in-korea" will have an uphill battle with me. This hill that the battle will take place on has a name too: Mount Everest, covered in ice - with oil poured on it.

I know in Korea - it seems there are cave trolls who play their RPGs. They enjoy grinding mindlessly. Here in the USA - we enjoy maxing out quick - then smack PvP.

I'm not interested in spanky the monkey or loli-flying-cat girl either.Though, jiggles, the DDD catgirl, maybe. (ah shaddup)

We'll see if they put effort into the gameplay - to keep people playing, keep people entertained to make their money ~ not just ... leveling ... slowly, with all of the agility and speed of drunken snail.

Penthero · « **Reply #58 on:** August 06, 2009, 01:47:16 PM »

Even though I agree that korean mmo usually are what you describe, but if you actually bothered to read what's been written before that's not true for Aion. You can without problem reach 30 within a week(in version 1.0) and max level is 50 in 1.2(which has increased XP from quests etc) and EU/NA will be launched as 1.5(more quests increased and more exp also including more leveling instanced).

It's more like vanilla-wow than a normal korean mmo when it comes to leveling, also the most bothersome quest I seen were to collect 50marks that has 100% drop chance and that's a group quest(it can be soloed, but still marked as group) and that's a campaign quest that gives loads of exp either way.

Btw the fastest I heard someone level were 7days to reach 45(which is max-lvl in version 1.0). So no 1000 vials of super flying fishes sperms gathering ;o Though I would actually like if I got a quest like that.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #59 on:** August 06, 2009, 03:39:34 PM »

Ok, so I've devised up some more questions for you all! I use to play WoW until I hit 80, but then I didn't really see any reason to continue to gain armor because it was just another grind. I currently play Eve Online with no real satisfaction when playing it. So here are the questions!

Official TMRNetShark Questions For Aion:

Smaller than WoW, correct? But still filled with tons of quests and none really too similar (Get me away from Dailies!)?
Cities? How many MAIN cities? Are there smaller towns and bases for supplies and such?
Armor System, do you have to repair your armor and such? Does it get more and more expensive as you level? (I hated 50g repairs)
Definite room for expansions (like BC and WotLK for Wow)?
There is actually people playing it? How many people can fit on a server? (Estimate)
Is there a possible prevention of the number of "powerful" classes? (CoughPaladinCough)
Would someone who played Wow and enjoyed leveling in it (me) enjoy leveling in Aion?
And lastly, END game material... Will it keep me going (Like PvPvE and such for Armor or reknown or Cool looking Wings!)?