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Offline lx4

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2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« on: March 21, 2009, 01:13:53 AM »
Back in 2007 it was reported that Israel bombed something in Syria which later turned out to be a nuclear reactor, I made a post about it here on box 2 year ago. Since then what happened has gotten out little by little. I just read a good summary of what is known today. I thought I would post it since this story never got much attention in the media. A lot of people dont even know it happened. If you ask me this should have been first page news more then once.


US intelligence had detected North Korean ship deliveries of construction supplies to Syria that started in 2002, and American satellites spotted the construction as early as 2003, but regarded the work as nothing unusual, in part because the Syrians had banned radio and telephones from the site and handled communications solely by messengers - "medieval but effective," Ruehle said.

Intensive investigation followed by US and Israeli intelligence services until Israel sent a 12-man commando unit in two helicopters to the site in August 2007 to take photographs and soil samples, he said.

"The analysis was conclusive that it was a North Korean-type reactor," a gas graphite model, Ruehle said.

Other sources have suggested that the reactor might have been large enough to make about one nuclear weapon's worth of plutonium a year.

Just before the Israeli commando raid, a North Korean ship was intercepted en route to Syria with nuclear fuel rods, underscoring the need for fast action, he said.

"On the morning of September 6, 2007, seven Israeli F-15 fighter bombers took off to the north. They flew along the Mediterranean coast, brushed past Turkey and pressed on into Syria. Fifty kilometers from their target they fired 22 rockets at the three identified objects inside the Kibar complex.

"The Syrians were completely surprised. By the time their air defense systems were ready, the Israeli planes were well out of range. The mission was successful, the reactor destroyed," Ruehle said.

Israel estimates that Iran had paid North Korea between $1 billion and $2 billion for the project, Ruehle said.

Israel has refused from the beginning to comment on, confirm or deny the strike, but after a delay of several months Washington presented intelligence purporting to show the target was a reactor being built with North Korean help.

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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2009, 07:53:10 AM »
Not being able to shoot down F-15..... their AA-systems are archaic. On other hand it seems that Syria will not get any state of art AA missiles from Russia like TOR-1M because Russians negotiate with Israel to buy the Hermes type UAV.

And I am totally making this post just to show of military hardware because I am such a weapon whore.
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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 02:36:43 PM »
Oh well.... old story is after all.... old. And now look what they forced Iran to do, and I'm actually supporting them on that, because I'm patriotic and if my country supports Iran, I'll too.
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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 02:43:19 PM »
Your country?
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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 02:57:22 PM »
Its a Muslim country, Malaysia, so yes, they support each other, even if Saddam was still around and running amok, they'll still stick with each other.

Its all just words, not really supporting each other as in "We'll fight along side with you, brother!", so don't worry about it.

Personally I'm not a Muslim, but I love my country because of its strict but easily by-passable rules(yes, money rules everything). And if the King wants me to go to war, then why not?! I was raised to join the military, but WW2 was already over when I'm old enough, and now I'm sitting here in front of my PC, letting my talents go to some place else.
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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2009, 03:07:01 PM »
It is so stupid to support someone just because they are of same faith.....

On other hand if King tells you to go to war, then it is a worthy cause.
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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2009, 12:32:43 AM »
Israel estimates that Iran had paid North Korea between $1 billion and $2 billion for the project, Ruehle said.

Wait... why is Iran paying North Korea to give Syria electrical power and the initial base reactor for a nuclear weapon? ???

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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2009, 08:25:15 PM »
Israel estimates that Iran had paid North Korea between $1 billion and $2 billion for the project, Ruehle said.

Wait... why is Iran paying North Korea to give Syria electrical power and the initial base reactor for a nuclear weapon? ???

People assume things..... the CIA probably does it all the time, but I can't comment any further on this.
This happens, the invasion of Iraq, the Gulf war, even civilians in the coffee shop talking about the world's political stability are just assuming the facts.
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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 07:59:25 PM »
There is some more information on another mystery Israeli air strike, this time in Sudan.

"A Sudanese government minister has confirmed reports of an air raid in eastern Sudan earlier this year.

The minister, Mabrook Mubarak Saleem, told an Arabic news channel that many people had been killed in the strike, said to have taken place last month.

Israeli officials have not commented publicly on reports that their planes may have been involved.

Israel's Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, did not confirm any raid but said Israel hit everywhere to stop terror.

The CBS television network said it had been told by American officials that a strike by Israeli planes in January had succeeded in preventing weapons from Sudan reaching Gaza.

They could have included surface to air missiles or perhaps missiles with a 70km (44-mile) range that would have enabled militants to hit Tel Aviv from Gaza, our correspondent adds.

The BBC's Paul Wood in Jerusalem says Israel's response is following a traditional pattern, set when it attacked a suspected nuclear reactor in Syria in 2007, of first refusing to confirm an alleged strike and then giving a nod and a wink. "

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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 03:17:56 AM »
I'm not sure what to make of this...on one hand, Israel should have stayed out of Syria's business...on the other, Syria seems to support Iran in wiping Israel off the map.

But you have to admit: Israel can put up one helluva fight:D

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Re: 2007 bombing of Syrian nuclear facility
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2009, 02:12:01 PM »
Not being able to shoot down F-15..... their AA-systems are archaic.

Kinda late, but anyway,
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I think the problem with the Syrian air defense lies not with outdated technology but rather with the order of battle itself. The Israeli F-15's and F-16's could by-pass majority of Syria's air defense assets, including interceptors from airfields, by flying through the Turkish airspace and then driving southward to the Dayz Az-Zor region where the nuclear facility is located.

There is also the underlying issue that Syria's S-200 out-ranges the current fleet of EW aircraft that Israel has. Something more powerful like the EA-6 from the U.S. Navy is needed to take down that one. But S-200 can't catch low-flying aircraft.

My guess is that Israel conducted either a hi-lo-hi mission via Turkey or a grueling lo-lo-lo mission directly through the Israel-Syria border neutralizing the less powerful SA-2 and SA-3 one by one.

Syria also has rather potent mobile self-sufficient air defense systems like this one also, the order of battle of which is of course unknown to us by virtue of their mobility:
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And the SA-3 Goa is still comparative to the I-HAWK that many European countries and South Korea are using. Not very outdated yet considering that half of Israel's combat aircraft are from the older block of models during the 70's 80's  ;)


Edit: E-6 => EA-6
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