Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood

[Havoc10K]

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l think the tatoo she had on her back has something to do with the gate, thats why her grandfather and she herself despise that research so much, she had Mustang burn it out,

thats what l would bet on.

[DaggerLite]

Eye in the preview?

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I didn't see anything related to that part in the preview. Just the battle between Wrath and GreedLin. Of course Wrath wouldn't die from falling into the water. Though, I am wondering a bit why his homunculus eye isn't healing instantly. Isn't he immortal like the others?

While I said I doubt that he'd do human transmutation, I also meant that I doubt that he caves in to the scientist's will. I doubt that he will open the gate for him, because by doing that he'll lose. But does he really have any other choice? I can go along with the tattoo idea. That is the reason his fire abilities are so potent in the first place, isn't it? He understands some sort of secret about it.

In short, I don't think Mustang will cave in to the scientist's plans. Assuming there's only five more episodes though, I'd say it's probably possible. In other words: I think we will get "5 human sacrifices" before the end.

[NaiveEden]

Yup, its there.

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24:10 to be exact, there's a huge eye there, something from within the gate.
As for what's on Riza's back, wasn't it all about flame alchemy? I thought it is, did they ever say there's anything more to it? I thought that its all about flame alchemy and once Riza saw its destructive force in the war she decided to seal it so it wouldn't be used for evil deeds.
And it really seems from the preview like Mustang is about to open the gate, otherwise that look on his face (24:08) is hard to explain. and like I said before, I don't wanna think that Mustang will put Riza in danger unless he has a trick he is sure will work 100%.

[DaggerLite]

@NaiveEden

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The eye at 24:10 is GreedLin's eye. It has nothing to do with the gate. I am guessing GreedLin will die a few times in the fight versus Wrath.

As for the tattoo being about flame alchemy, that's basically what I went towards. Mustang has an understanding of flame alchemy on an entire different level than others due to it. Whether there is something more to it isn't really known right now.

[Havoc10K]

l don't see a point in killing Riza, she has a considerable fan club, it would be bad, and l think Mustang would lose all resolve, after all, he's fighting to protect his subordinates, if he loses Riza l think he will crack down, actually in teh anime they never really said what that tatoo is, if it was in the manga keep it to yourselves ;]

l salute Buccaneer tough, damn bastard was hard to kill, seriously, even wounded as he was, most ppl would have trouble standing up, and he menaged to attack him at full force, and made sure the gate stays closed, he was an ugly guy but tough son of a bitch, miss Armstrong actually has what it takes to rule the country, she menaged to take the guys that were trying to kill her to follow her orders, damn l love her :]

l kind of thought that Major Armstrong knew more about the gate, he spent quite some time researching Elric brothers, right now he seems silly to me, maybe he took to much beating from Sloth after all ;]

[NaiveEden]

@DaggerLite

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I now understand what you wanted to say about the tattoo on Riza's back, and it does make sense, there might actually be something more to it.
As for the eye we see in the preview, I really don't think its Greed's eye, it looks nothing like his eye and we see it right after a weird look from Mustang which leads me to believe it has something to do with the gate:

Either that or I'm really making a fool out of myself, which isn't new to me really ;d

Edit: DaggerLite, is there a chance you're talking about 57's preview? cause I'm talking about 58's

[DaggerLite]

Huh, what? Which encode are you using? I used single frame-skipping from 24:09 to the end in Eclipse's version, and that shot is definitely not in it. Edit: Doh, yeah, I was watching 57, for some reason. Silly me. It seems 58 has been stored in a different folder than usual... (I just chose the 'latest' file). >.<

Hmm, it suddenly throws my whole argument around. Perhaps Mustang does it then.

On a sidenote:

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I wonder what Hohenheim is up to. Is he fighting Father from the inside? Or is he just being stored for later use? ;p It doesn't seem like he's being slowly consumed, at least.

[Havoc10K]

"Father" said hes gonna suck his stone later, when he takes care of those.

l think what Riza said is about the gate, there is no need for Mustang to use human transmutation to open the gate.

but by the look on Mustang's face it seems hes gonna put Riza in danger after all.

Edit:
l just thought about this a little and would like to talk about it with you guys:

Selecting Mustang as a sacrifice seems like a bad idea, when he sees the truth (and remembers it) he won't need a transmutation circle to use his flame alchemy, and if l remember correctly, "Fathers" room is made of stone and full of metal pipes, chance of crating a spark ? =1000% so is it really a good idea for Mustang to meet Father ? it's a blazing death, he already defeated Envy and Lust without much problems, what chance is there tha tFatehr wil lfare better than them ? if we coun't out Al due to some reasons, Ed, Scar and Sensei can easily create explosions/fires and sparks all over the damn place, l find it rather silly hahah tha tthe ydecided that Mustang be the 5th sacrifice, if you think logically thats the worst selection tbh ;]

[newy]

He can disable Western alchemy...

[Havoc10K]

oh yeh l forgot about that, imba op dude, l want a tank like that hahah.

[newy]

I didn't think of these guys, wow. And that is also a way to disable him. Well then, off to the giant transmutation circle.

[DaggerLite]

Hmm, I'm not sure what to think about 59... there was too much deus ex machina for my taste (is that even the correct way to put the term in a sentence?)

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First off, a chimera and May appears, and suddenly the fight vs. the "Wraths" becomes a bit too easy for no apparent reason. Following that, the true Wrath appears simply because as he fell into the water, there was a damaged grate that lead to the room with the mad scientist by chance. I can understand Pride appearing after that though. Lastly, while it went both ways with the predictions of human transmutation, I thought the way it actually happened was the third occurrence of deus ex machina.

I did like the chat between Al's body and soul. However, I was wondering a bit about why he would get the choice of having his body back, when none of the others do. His case is a bit special, I'll give him that. I was also thinking that if Al got his body back, wouldn't that ruin Our Father's plans somewhat? The body saying that he might just have caused the world to get overrun by despair by going back sort of confirmed my thoughts, but he might've just have meant that "going back either way" would lead to the same thing (in which case I find it a bit pointless).

I found Mustang's loss interesting, and am looking forward to see him kick ass sightless. Just a guess, of course.

[newy]

Didn't they say that a soul seeks out its body (or vice versa) and that that is responsible for his blackouts. And maybe this is the reason that he had a choice.

[Havoc10K]

well,

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Al's body said that it's him returning could lead to worlds disaster, doesn't really matter in wich form he would return

all they can do now is to defeat Father and Pride, and that won't be easy, but should he disable their Alchemy, they can still fight melee, and May has Eastern Alchemy, so it shouldn't be impossible, the only problem is Pride, but it seems like he can't recover his wound as well anymore. At least he didn't recover that facial damage he recived just now.

[nstgc]

I've read the manga

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don't expect any miracles of that sort. Father opens up the gate. Thats where I left off.

[Nikran]

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With flame alchemist blinded and out of the picture things aren't that great, but judging on the fact that pride seems to be decaying, perhaps dying maybe they can pull this off.

Tbh I don't think Edward and Alphonse are up to these kinds of fights. neither of them have managed to beat a homunculus, only flame alchemist has (twice now) because that guy is just death on legs (coupled with the 'I'll keep killing you until you die' attitude he's a homunculus slayer). At least their master Izumi is there, she can prolly do alot better then the elric brothers combined.

[wyld_life21]

So how is this one compared to the previous series? Does it have similar plot as the manga or has it taken the story in a totally different direction?

[NaiveEden]

So how is this one compared to the previous series? Does it have similar plot as the manga or has it taken the story in a totally different direction?

It's awesome, as expected, some would say even better to the first. concerning the plot, it follows the manga pretty closely, it'll also have the same ending as the manga, so if you've enjoyed the manga I would say its a safe bet you'll enjoy this as well.
Btw, I have a small dilemma, didn't watch 59 yet, I don't know if I should wait till all episodes are out so I can finish it in one go or keep watching per week (which isn't easy, the tension is killing me )

[pari1981]

well, all they can do now is to defeat Father and Pride, and that won't be easy, but should he disable their Alchemy, they can still fight melee, and May has Eastern Alchemy, so it shouldn't be impossible, the only problem is Pride, but it seems like he can't recover his wound as well anymore. At least he didn't recover that facial damage he recived just now.

The next episode preview says ...

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the amestris wide circle is activated and people being killed. so father does get to activate it. just not sure how far it goes.

[Havoc10K]

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he may have activated it, but the goal of the attack was to disrupt the circle and turn it around, maybe what is shown in the preview is the goal of Father, as he says it, not certain if l put this the right way, but l doub't they'd allow him to activate it, if he was able to use the lives of Amestrians then they lost the fight outright cuz the point was to stop it, it doesn't matter what happens afterwards, and if he succeeds the series should end with ep 60, and we know it wil lend at ep 63 ir so that meansthey ought to pull it off

So how is this one compared to the previous series? Does it have similar plot as the manga or has it taken the story in a totally different direction?

It's awesome, as expected, some would say even better to the first. concerning the plot, it follows the manga pretty closely, it'll also have the same ending as the manga, so if you've enjoyed the manga I would say its a safe bet you'll enjoy this as well.
Btw, I have a small dilemma, didn't watch 59 yet, I don't know if I should wait till all episodes are out so I can finish it in one go or keep watching per week (which isn't easy, the tension is killing me )

the manga is still ongoing, planned to finish at the same time as anime series. So if you enjoyed the Manga, that means youre from the future, and if you didn't bring with yourself a few DVDs with featuired anime shows you are not welcome XD