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Offline Havoc10K

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #740 on: July 08, 2010, 07:36:05 AM »
alchemy being useful to him and him performing alchemy are two different things, he doesn't have to be the one to perform alchemy for him, he only lost ability to perform the achemical reactions, not the knowledge.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #741 on: July 08, 2010, 10:22:58 AM »
I don't think he needs alchemy or want it that badly himself since...
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #742 on: July 08, 2010, 10:43:04 AM »
l agree, l think tihs made him more fulfilled, and l think it would be ok if Al went on the journey on his own, with the two bodyguards at least, l think Ed went on a journey cuz he misses it.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #743 on: July 08, 2010, 05:08:20 PM »
Wat would completely ironical would be for one of his child dying and him being unable to perform human transmutation
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #744 on: July 08, 2010, 05:50:57 PM »
Wat would completely ironical would be for one of his child dying and him being unable to perform human transmutation
It's not like he would've done that anyway...

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #745 on: July 08, 2010, 09:51:02 PM »
Wat would completely ironical would be for one of his child dying and him being unable to perform human transmutation
It's not like he would've done that anyway...
Well you never know.When people are in despair they do things that otherwise they wouldnt.When he lost his mother he did know wat would happen but still tried(it was the grief that motivated him)
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #746 on: July 08, 2010, 10:19:12 PM »
Wat would completely ironical would be for one of his child dying and him being unable to perform human transmutation
It's not like he would've done that anyway...
Well you never know.When people are in despair they do things that otherwise they wouldnt.When he lost his mother he did know wat would happen but still tried(it was the grief that motivated him)

wat

No he didn't. When he tried to ressurect his mother he had no idea that he's ressurect:
A) Someone completely different
B) Half of someone

And he also didn't know he'd lose his leg and all of his brothers body.


He is now well WELL aware that human transmutation is nigh impossible.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #747 on: July 08, 2010, 10:22:02 PM »
Wat would completely ironical would be for one of his child dying and him being unable to perform human transmutation
It's not like he would've done that anyway...
Well you never know.When people are in despair they do things that otherwise they wouldnt.When he lost his mother he did know wat would happen but still tried(it was the grief that motivated him)

wat

No he didn't. When he tried to ressurect his mother he had no idea that he's ressurect:
A) Someone completely different
B) Half of someone

And he also didn't know he'd lose his leg and all of his brothers body.


He is now well WELL aware that human transmutation is nigh impossible.
Well mate he knew that human transmutation had never succeded before
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #748 on: July 08, 2010, 10:47:52 PM »
Wat would completely ironical would be for one of his child dying and him being unable to perform human transmutation
It's not like he would've done that anyway...
Well you never know.When people are in despair they do things that otherwise they wouldnt.When he lost his mother he did know wat would happen but still tried(it was the grief that motivated him)

wat

No he didn't. When he tried to ressurect his mother he had no idea that he's ressurect:
A) Someone completely different
B) Half of someone

And he also didn't know he'd lose his leg and all of his brothers body.


He is now well WELL aware that human transmutation is nigh impossible.
Well mate he knew that human transmutation had never succeded before

He knew it was banned/outlawed/whatever, but he didn't know the specifics.

That's why he was so sure it would work.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #749 on: July 08, 2010, 11:35:41 PM »
Wat would completely ironical would be for one of his child dying and him being unable to perform human transmutation
It's not like he would've done that anyway...
Well you never know.When people are in despair they do things that otherwise they wouldnt.When he lost his mother he did know wat would happen but still tried(it was the grief that motivated him)
As Kyoraku posted, he didn't have much information about it when he was a kid... and yeah he was a kid.
He's an adult now and after all he has been through it wouldn't happen...

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #750 on: July 09, 2010, 05:51:19 AM »
actualy they know that Human transmutation IS possible, but, it doesn't work the way the want it to.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #751 on: July 09, 2010, 07:49:16 AM »
Actually, we have plenty of examples of human transmutation working within the series itself.

However, we have several attempts of human transmutation to resurrect the dead, and all of those failed horribly. They all received a punishment for their arrogance, because "Truth/World/God" keeps things in order and those souls have already "moved on". They do seem to linger on for a while, since Edward was able to attach Alphonse's soul to the armor. Also Barry, Slicer brothers. Eventually the soul will reject the foreign container, so you might be able to permanently resurrect someone if you did it very soon after they died, after repairing their body of whatever it was that killed them.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #752 on: July 14, 2010, 05:26:39 AM »
so im rewatching the original series, then im either going to read the manga (never did) or watch brotherhood. Havent decided which first. Hell if anyone has an opinion on if i should read the manga or watch brotherhood first, im open to hear them

anyway i snagged the whole thing but im a bit confused about the specials. ADB lists about 4

S1         "Hagane no Renkinjutsushi" Complete Clarification!!
S2         Blind Alchemist
S6          Simple People
S10     Tales of the Master / Master`s First Love Story

and myanimelist (which usually gives more info on stuff like that) lists about 3

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1. Fullmetal Alchemist: The Blind Alchemist (Moumoku no Renkinjutsushi)

Based on a side story of "Fullmetal Alchemist" manga published in "Fullmetal Alchemist Perfect Guidebook" (2003). It's about a blind alchemist Jude, who serves the Humbergang family. He once violated the taboo of the Alchemy.

2. Fullmetal Alchemist: Simple People (Shinpuru na Hitobito)

A story about Riza (why she let her hair grew longer) and Winry (why she had her ears pierced and how she got her earrings).

3. Fullmetal Alchemist: Tales of the Master

Based on a side story of "Fullmetal Alchemist" manga, the third OVA is about Edward and Alphonse's master Izumi Curtis.

The story is compiled of two parts. The first part shows how Izumi (then 18 year old) survived in the Mt. Briggs to become an apprentice of a renowned alchemist. The second part shows how Izumi and Sig met and their love at first sight.
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So basically im not really sure what the deal is here. Are there 3 or 4 specials? whats the S1         "Hagane no Renkinjutsushi" Complete Clarification!!  one listed on ADB? Can someone clear this up for me? Im also wondering if any groups have done these. It seems eclipse didn't. I would definatly like to snag these for watching as well when i go through brotherhood. Im also wondering where they fit in viewing wise

Im aware of the little short gag ones too but im not as interested in those

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #753 on: July 14, 2010, 10:44:25 AM »
Depends on your preferred medium.
Brotherhood follows the manga pretty damn well, and all the fights are animated, so I'd say go for that.

And the OVAs just go in anywhere really. There's no huge revelations that'll affect the storyline in them.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #754 on: July 16, 2010, 12:53:43 AM »
so as far as viewing order goes, i should probably watch brotherhood first THEN read the manga? Does anyone else concur/disagree with that? Sounds like a pretty good idea i guess. As far as viewing order for the specials goes.. theres no chronological spot where the specials sit? They could literally be watched before i even start the series?

Im still confused about the specials i listed though. So are those actually OAV's or where they just extras put out with the DVD release?

Im also not clear on what the first one listed on ADB is. I see the other 3: Blind alchemist, simple people, tales of the master; all seem to have some fansubers listed. But the first special ""Hagane no Renkinjutsushi" Complete Clarification!! " has no entry for it on Myanimelist at all. What is it? As far as Myanimelist is concerned there are only 3 specials and it seems even on ADB theres no groups that have done that first special.

It looks like eclipse didn't do any of the specials, so i need to find a release for them from another group. Hiyono seems to have done all 3 although they only list them as oav 1 oav 2, ect instead by title. Is Hiyono a decent fansub group? I havent heard of them at all. If not im curious who you guys used for the specials
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #755 on: July 16, 2010, 01:02:39 AM »
Honestly, the manga is covered extremely well in the series.
If you want to read it for completion sakes, go for it.

Thinking about it, the OVAs are kinda linked to some stuff in the new series, but nothing major. As in, the fact that Izumi was at Briggs is briefly mentioned in the main anime. Etc. If you know the characters, you'll enjoy them whenever you watch them. And they were released as OVAs far as I know, but I'm not sure on it.

I've never heard of that first special though, the ""Hagane no Renkinjutsushi" Complete Clarification!!"

And subs, I used Hiyano for it, and they were just fine.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #756 on: July 16, 2010, 01:27:05 AM »
Haha, it seems Mr. Ask-A-Lot is back.

Watch the series from Eclipse, watch the specials from Hiyono. Read the manga afterwards if you wanna kill some time. :P

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #757 on: September 19, 2010, 07:18:48 AM »
OVA 4 is out, and man it's good. Maes and Roy's rivalry was funny as hell.

At one point I said to myself "senso dakara". I think it means that "this is war". And that's exactly what this OVA conveys.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #758 on: September 19, 2010, 11:45:20 AM »
OVA 4 is out, and man it's good. Maes and Roy's rivalry was funny as hell.

At one point I said to myself "senso dakara". I think it means that "this is war". And that's exactly what this OVA conveys.
Come on the one who understood the war better than anyone was my fave char in the whole series.....come on of course it was Jolf Kimblee
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
« Reply #759 on: September 19, 2010, 11:49:18 AM »
how many ovas are being planned in total for this show ? i haven't watched a single one I think, just storing them away safely to marathon them :)