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--- Quote from: htears on April 25, 2009, 08:43:22 AM ---I downloaded Chihiro's version when they released the episodes ( 1-3) as i trust Chihiro more than AniYoshi. I just wanted to make sure if my decision was correct.

Now that Chibi-Formula has dropped Phantom, if Menclave continues with it, i'll follow them, otherwise it's Ayako for me.

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They have undropped it:
http://evaforum.com/formulasub/?p=87
Read the edits.

--- Quote from: textwall ---Episode 04 was on Funimation’s site hours before it aired in Japan, somehow.
Anyhow, in compliance with our normal policy, regrettably, we’ll be dropping Phantom after episode 03. The streams will be out faster than our version, plus they’re perfectly legal. I’m personally happy the show’s been licensed and hope to see some DVDs for sale in the future.

edit: We’re considering not dropping it. Funi’s license only covers web streaming. Our logic for continuing is this: We’re slow, and not many people get our version (Desire/Ayako for speed and Conmen for achive, right?). So, really, how much ad revenue is lost by 2K people grabbing our version a week after the stream comes online? /me shrugs

edit2: It appears we are not dropping this yet. Our torrents for the PV and episodes 1 & 2 have been removed from Scarywater by request of Media Factory via BayTSP. They may or may not be rehosted on another tracker at some point in the future.

So, why did we decide not to drop when we always have in the past? Well, fansubbing isn’t any more illegal just because official streams are around. In the same way, it’s not somehow more legal when a series isn’t licensed. If the show had been licensed for DVDs, as we originally thought, we’d drop the show. Putting out a sub means putting something out that will linger on the internet for a very long time and can have a definable injury to DVD sales. However, putting out a sub at least a week after an official stream becomes available has a much smaller negative impact on the licensor’s profit. It’s been said that Funimation makes 1 U.S. cent per view. Torrent downloads for each episode we’ve released totaled under 2,000. So then, does depriving a corporation of 20USD revenue makes us evil, R1 licensor-hating pirates? I don’t think so.

I wholeheartedly encourage anyone who watches our releases to also watch Funimation’s streams. I will be (after I’ve done my part of the fansubbing so I’m not influenced by their editing and such). Not that I’m saying that watching their version makes downloading a fansub more legal, but the moral weight is lessened at least.
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