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Offline Semnae

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2009, 10:21:04 AM »
Fraternity? Dude are you still in college?

I'm graduating next fall!  Then I get to cut people open! ^_^

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2009, 10:23:37 AM »
Fraternity? Dude are you still in college?

I'm graduating next fall!  Then I get to cut people open! ^_^

And thats how the medical system wen't to the dogs

Offline AceHigh

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2009, 10:48:25 AM »
Medical? I thought he was talking about the promising career of autopsy examinations  ;D
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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2009, 08:54:05 PM »
I'm going to say this. Really you shouldn't be basing someone's progress in a political position within only the first 100 days of him/her taking office. It takes a long time to get things done that are note worthy and will show that it will stand for an extended period of time. From what I've seen he has done what one can do in this limited amount of time but give it a year or so and then we can really start to rate his progress.
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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2009, 09:13:30 PM »
People can judge him and bash him only after 100 days if they want. This is democracy.  :)
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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2009, 09:30:57 PM »
I'm not saying that they can't just that they shouldn't. Nothing really note worthy happens in that short a time span, and for politics 100 days is a really short amount of time. If they want to though, go right ahead.  :)
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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2009, 09:41:52 PM »
And I am saying that it is natural to do so. Democracy = mob rule  and bashing someone after 100 days is a very mob-ish thing to do.
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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2009, 09:57:12 PM »
True, and nothing can really change that.
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Offline Killbasas

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2009, 10:21:53 PM »
People can judge him and bash him only after 100 days if they want. This is democracy.  :)

Not realy democracy... This 100 days of work came from Nepoleon Bonapats second rule, which lasted 100 days and then that guy got beat up in batle of Waterloo... Thats where the 100 days ideoma in political world came from.

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2009, 10:50:54 PM »
It's "First Hundred Days" not "Hundred Days," and I'm fairly sure the term goes back to FDR's first hundred days, not Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo. I think it'd be a bit awkward expecting a Waterloo at the of a president's first hundred days.

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« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2009, 11:01:52 PM »
It's "First Hundred Days" not "Hundred Days," and I'm fairly sure the term goes back to FDR's first hundred days, not Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo. I think it'd be a bit awkward expecting a Waterloo at the of a president's first hundred days.

Nope, it's from Napoleons reign. You do not have to take this saying so literaly, and Waterloo isn't the cause of this saying. It just means no one touched Napoleon as a ruler of France for one hundred days ergo, it came to political practice not to touch politics for that set period of time... Humanity adapted stranger things like 13th day etc. etc.

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« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2009, 11:17:09 PM »
Nope, it's from Napoleons reign. You do not have to take this saying so literaly, and Waterloo isn't the cause of this saying. It just means no one touched Napoleon as a ruler of France for one hundred days ergo, it came to political practice not to touch politics for that set period of time... Humanity adapted stranger things like 13th day etc. etc.
No, you're wrong on both counts:
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The Hundred Days was Napoleon Bonaparte's final military campaign in 1815.

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Napoleon returned while the Congress of Vienna was sitting. On 13 March, seven days before Napoleon reached Paris, the powers at the Congress of Vienna declared him an outlaw; four days later the United Kingdom, Russia, Austria and Prussia, members of the Seventh Coalition, bound themselves to put 150,000 men each into the field to end his rule.

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"The First Hundred Days", the start of U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt's 1933 administration, resulting in the New Deal.

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By extension, there is often talk of incoming U.S. presidents' actions in their first hundred days. See, e.g., First 100 days of Barack Obama's Presidency.

It has nothing to do with being untouchable, and even if it did, they certainly weren't hands off for Napoleon. It refers explicitly to the actions taken by the president in his first hundred days, and specifically refers to only his first term, not some random hundred day period at any point during his administration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Days_(disambiguation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Days

You can check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_100_days_of_Barack_Obama%27s_Presidency for more about the current president and the term as it applies to him. It has nothing to do with the downfall of Napoleon.

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2009, 12:08:47 AM »
Yeah, I'm going to have to agree.  In American politics the hundred days thing spawns pretty much exclusively from FDR's first hundred days, when he spawned like 50 new programs to combat the depression.

I'd be surprised if 25% of the American population knew about Napoleon's final military campaign.

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« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2009, 02:28:25 AM »
I'm American and even I think you're giving to much credit. Most Americans would think of that campaign as something you learned in class to get a grade and then disregard it after the test, if it was even taught in their history class.
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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2009, 10:07:45 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Days_(disambiguation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Days

Look what you are using. A dumpster of knowlage that no one should take for serious. Anyone can write anything in that sorry exuse for encyclopedia, even that Lincoln hid alien antenas under his top hat. I rest my case.

Offline SeventyX7

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2009, 11:09:55 AM »
Well, smarty-pants, is that particular entry wrong?   :P

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2009, 11:12:21 AM »
Look what you are using. A dumpster of knowlage that no one should take for serious. Anyone can write anything in that sorry exuse for encyclopedia, even that Lincoln hid alien antenas under his top hat. I rest my case.
I think you need to provide some evidence to the contrary to have a case. I doubt either of us make for reliable sources.

Napoleon was certainly not untouchable during the time frame, there are other sources that'll back he was declared an outlaw. I tried "Hundred Days Napoleon outlaw" just to have all the words there, pick one you like? And while there are people willing to CLAIM the term refers to Napoleon, I doubt you could find one contemporary to FDR's term to make the connection.

But seriously, they refer to two opposite ends of a term. For every guy trying to drag Napoleon into the argument, it feels a bit weak when they compare how he went out to how a president goes in. Just because they both have "hundred days" in the term doesn't mean one stemmed from the other. Colloquial usage most certainly refers to the actions taken in the first hundred days, it has nothing to do with Napoleon's fall.

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #57 on: May 12, 2009, 08:57:49 PM »
next election just remember: "when in doubt, vote for nader"

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #58 on: May 13, 2009, 03:45:52 AM »
NO!  Don't say that, in America, voting for a third party in a presidential election is as bad as not voting at all.

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Re: Obama's first 100 Days Report Card
« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2009, 12:38:58 PM »
not voting isnt bad, its your right, and doesnt effect the outcome.

Because if nobody voted  on election day it wouldnt matter because we use electoral college.

The electoral college wont elect third party