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Can BxT also be bad for fansub groups and their releases?
kristen:
No... It's not bad for fansub groups at all. If anything, it actually helps, because a person will DL from the official batch and see that so as to seed BxT batches without having to leech it, hurting the ratio.
In addition, the BxT tracker seems to be faster. I tried leeching a Chihiro batch with 50 seeds on it and go 50 kb/s. I tried a different one here with many less seeds and got 2 MB/s. As such, it'll have a chance of DLing here to seed official ones and vice versa.
Re-batches help keep files readily available, since with time, seeders will dwindle inevitably. What does NOT help is having more than one batch in a short period of time. Like, within a week of coalguys completing Toradora, there were 4 batches available. 2 gg-qq-coalguys, 1 gg-qq-coalguys re-encode, and 1 paradym-coalguys. This kills seeders and health. >.<
SeventyX7:
--- Quote from: kristen on May 01, 2009, 04:03:22 AM ---Re-batches help keep files readily available, since with time, seeders will dwindle inevitably. What does NOT help is having more than one batch in a short period of time. Like, within a week of coalguys completing Toradora, there were 4 batches available. 2 gg-qq-coalguys, 1 gg-qq-coalguys re-encode, and 1 paradym-coalguys. This kills seeders and health. >.<
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Meh. I don't mind this. I feel it gives us choice in what we download. Plus, having the competition discourages people who completely suck at subbing.
morrefule:
Personally I don't see why a fansub group wouldn't want their torrents up on box. The reason I say this is for the pure fact of the longevity of the Torrent. Since the Box Community is a big seeding community, these files will probably last healthily for years longer than off their personal site trackers, and are convenient for download. If anything it helps them get their work out there, and create a larger fan base!
And maybe you can testify to that or not Kristen?
Gretchen23:
--- Quote from: SeventyX7 on May 01, 2009, 04:16:25 AM ---(snip)Plus, having the competition discourages people who completely suck at subbing.
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I can't help myself regardless of topic to rise to defend the beginners of any craft. The sucky subbers of today may wind up developing into great subbers down the road...if only the best subbers get any attention or feedback, when the great groups of today eventually decide to call it a hobby and move on, who will be left? Then again, in this tangent I am talking out my ass. Entirely my gut reaction, as a consumer of subs and not a subber myself.
Of course that being said, Boxtorrents is kind of a showroom of what the community decides is the best release of a given series, occasionally with 1 or 2 alternatives in different format or something, so it's not a library, more a boutique. Registering isn't hard and costs nothing, and until earlier this evening I didn't even realize you could access this stuff without even registering. Certainly anyone would want to register, this being a pretty friendly and helpful oasis of anime fans.
I'd think that if a group subs a series and wants it to get out there, then if the files are promoted on a site like this (especially with the high-integrity policies of not renaming files and clearly indicating the sub source and such) then it serves for more people to see the particular group's work and appreciate the anime they cared enough about to sub in the first place. May not direct traffic to that group's site...but it would if someone sees a group's work on here and goes there to see what else they do. Content seeded here also isn't exactly hidden, the torrents appear in torrent search sites, often the most clearly titled and obviously best seeded batches around. Torrents don't vanish into this site to be stored in a secret vault, no one here is trying to keep stuff to themselves ;)
It's to the benefit of all anime fans everywhere for the most subs to reach the most viewers to keep interest in anime alive and thriving.
macros74:
--- Quote from: kristen on May 01, 2009, 04:03:22 AM ---No... It's not bad for fansub groups at all. If anything, it actually helps, because a person will DL from the official batch and see that so as to seed BxT batches without having to leech it, hurting the ratio.
In addition, the BxT tracker seems to be faster. I tried leeching a Chihiro batch with 50 seeds on it and go 50 kb/s. I tried a different one here with many less seeds and got 2 MB/s. As such, it'll have a chance of DLing here to seed official ones and vice versa.
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Arveene kind of worded how I see it also. And indeed, I've often done what Kristen describes above for series I cared about. But a batch torrent is easier to keep alive, that's a fact.
But A-C (or at least the person who posted the message) also mentioned (closed) registration torrent sites and that point I find somewhat valid. If you're not able to get in there and they have the only viable seed, wel, that is frustrating of course.
--- Quote from: Gretchen23 on May 01, 2009, 04:52:08 AM ---I'd think that if a group subs a series and wants it to get out there, then if the files are promoted on a site like this (especially with the high-integrity policies of not renaming files and clearly indicating the sub source and such) then it serves for more people to see the particular group's work and appreciate the anime they cared enough about to sub in the first place. May not direct traffic to that group's site...but it would if someone sees a group's work on here and goes there to see what else they do. Content seeded here also isn't exactly hidden, the torrents appear in torrent search sites, often the most clearly titled and obviously best seeded batches around. Torrents don't vanish into this site to be stored in a secret vault, no one here is trying to keep stuff to themselves ;)
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Good point. Although there are still torrents here that have renamed files, recently came across one from Live-eviL. Then I can imagine a fansub group would be less happy because you then create a closed seeding pool (well, or people will have to change the file names to help seed)...
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