Top o Nerae! 2/Gunbuster2/Diebuster

[quekmeister]

I haven't watched Gunbusters yet but may bet coerced into downloading it now. Just need to free up space on my HDD. Mass burning will commence.

YOU MUST WATCH GUNBUSTER.
Then watch Diebuster.

And then you will get this reference:

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INAZUMA KIII-IIIICK!

[Jay Vee]

I did. I usually dont watch older anime but i enjoyed gunbusters1. the black and white ending was genius. a tear jerker

[WingZero8788]

I haven't watched Gunbusters yet but may bet coerced into downloading it now. Just need to free up space on my HDD. Mass burning will commence.

YOU MUST WATCH GUNBUSTER.
Then watch Diebuster.

And then you will get this reference:

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INAZUMA KIII-IIIICK!

Downloading now and will respond when I've finished watching both.

[ray1301]

Aww I already had an old Gunbuster 2 thread up

Extra trivia for Gunbuster 2
wiki

[Southrop]

Merged. No sense in having two of the same topics.

[logos]

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So to those who've seen the show and want technical questions answered go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunbuster
In regards to predicting their arrival, earth coulda figured out the distance and predicted their arrival that way, especially if the other ships had to travel the same distance(which doesn't really make sense but...)then they'd just need to set something up right after the rest of the fleet returned.  But most logically earth sensed them with scanners/radar and figuratively hid behind the couch right before they showed up.

Anyways everyone should watch them, best anime I've seen so far 10.1/10(diebuster)

[quekmeister]

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With regards to predicting their arrival, the fleet made a near instantaneous FTL jump back to Earth using their degeneration engines. Noriko and whatshername Onee-sama were travelling at relativistic speeds, close to the speed of light, hence for them, only a short while passed, but 12,000 years passed on Earth. I.e. they return around the year 14,000 AD.

In roughly 13,090 AD, Diebuster takes place, with Nono (aka Buster Machine #7) awakening after her long sleep in a comet. She was probably built not long after the fleet returned from the centre of the galaxy, while the fear of the Space Monsters was still high. The single-digit Buster Machines were equipped with degeneration engines, allowing FTL jumps, i.e. the Buster Corps also had them since they were made to be used in conjunction with Nono. Later Buster Machines did not have degeneration engines but had the capability to use them if they were installed. Nono was probably programmed to remember Noriko's heroic actions, and as she grew more and more sentient, it was the only thing she remembered after so long.

Over time, the Buster Corps, which are self-sustaining biomechs, evolved to become more like their enemies, and were mistaken for the Space Monsters by the humans, who had thrown away their technology and science because they were afraid other civilizations might try and destroy them as well.

L'alc's Dix-Neuf (#19) is one of the oldest surviving Buster Machines, several thousand years old by the time of Diebuster.

[ray1301]

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Nono was probably programmed to remember Noriko's heroic actions, and as she grew more and more sentient, it was the only thing she remembered after so long.

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I just find that a weird, I mean she was the 7th buster, seems a little odd to put that kind of data into a machine, also wouldn't you have just put it into the next buster instead of later models i.e. 4-6, but to do it on 7? But sure you could also reply: They may as well just inputted the data into all the later models after #3 but then wouldn't the future models also have that data, etc, etc...

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Over time, the Buster Corps, which are self-sustaining biomechs, evolved to become more like their enemies, and were mistaken for the Space Monsters by the humans, who had thrown away their technology and science because they were afraid other civilizations might try and destroy them as well.

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Thought I added something here, so many tags...anyway, I'm sure the reason was why the buster corps started to attack the humans was because they became a threat themselves to other species with their topless. I'm sure thats what you meant by that paragraph, but when reading it through, it doesn't actually make much sense.

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L'alc's Dix-Neuf (#19) is one of the oldest surviving Buster Machines, several thousand years old by the time of Diebuster.

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I just remember something on the first episode, is when 19 stopped when it recognised Nono, which could be assumed that since he has survived so long, 7+19 could still have been operational back in the days before Nono went into hibernation , also if he knew that why didn't he just tell Lal'C...then again he really doesn't speak verbally...

lol also when you say FTL jumps I keep thinking "For The Lose" Jumps...darn internet abbreviations!

[quekmeister]

You're right about that first point, of course. Then again Gainax isn't known for having tight plots.

What's your second spoiler tag for? I can't see anything.

Haha, FTL, when I first saw online it I was wondering what it stood for.

[WingZero8788]

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Finally finished watching it. IT WAS AWESOME. I liked the end of DieBuster where it showed the return of Noriko and Commander Ohta.

EDIT: Added the spoiler tag

[quekmeister]

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Finally finished watching it. IT WAS AWESOME. I liked the end of DieBuster where it showed the return of Noriko and Commander Ohta.

Spoiler tag it! That was so touching I cried. :'(

[WingZero8788]

Alright got the tags in.

That was so touching I cried.  :'(

It really wasn't an ending I was expecting.

[mgz]

Alright got the tags in.

That was so touching I cried.  :'(

It really wasn't an ending I was expecting.

really ?
i kinda expected it

[WingZero8788]

Well

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I was expecting the ending having to do with Nono coming back but now that I think about it that was probably a more expected ending.

[LiquidZero]

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just watched Gunbuster then Diebuster, what an awsome pair of anime-goodness!
the most epic anime OVA/Movies i've ever seen that actually make sense!
       not a single dry point in either of them, i only wish they couldve been a few episodes longer.
THE ONLY, ONLY ONLY thing that might throw someone off (especially in Gunbuster) is the concept of time.

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In gunbuster first it was like 10 years, then 5 years, then 15 years, THEN 12,000 years!! HOLY SHIT!!! WHAT??! THE EARTH IS STILL THERE, WTF THEY REMEMBERED THE DAY THE ORIGINAL GUNBUSTERS SHOULD RETURN?!?!?! (which is why nono couldn't let the earth not be there anymore)

which is completly and utterly ridiculous.

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i wish they could've shown a re-animated version of the original pilots and mech suits.

it would've been tasty.
great OVAs (and watch teh OVAs there juicy-er), great stories, lots of feeling, and stuff.
its too bad at the end of

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diebuster they dont show anyone with kids or Onee-chan/planet thrower meeting the original Gunbusters.

IMO its a damn near perfect series itll still get a 9.999 from me. only short coming and this is barley barley a short coming is length. they shouldve done Hellsing ultimate style OVAs, 40 to 50 minutes of pure OVA-ness.
oh yeah and that thousands of year

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gap plot hole explaning just how nono even remembers the original busters

[quekmeister]

MASSIVE SPOILER ALERT:

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Nono was Buster Machine #7, which means she was built not too long after Buster Machines #1, 2 and 3 sacrificed themselves to seal off the black hole while the rest of the fleet jumped back to Earth. She was probably taught the history of the conflict between the humans and the space monsters. Buster Machines with numbers less than 10 were the earliest, and by far the most powerful. Between number 10 and 20 were somewhat more powerful than those which came after, and that's why Dix-Neuf (#19) could also remember certain parts of the history (and also how Dix-Neuf got that horn/tooth stuck in his head, and also why Dix-Neuf can do the ultimate moves like Nono and Buster Machines #1 and #2).

I don't see why the time jumping is so ridiculous, most of Gunbuster takes place within a 40 year period. In all likelihood, Gainax probably didn't plan to make a sequel of Gunbuster (released in 1988), and only chose to revisit the series after fifteen years because they didn't have anything else at the time, having completed FLCL. The amazing thing is that they managed to fit the plot of Diebuster into the story with it making sense.

This post in AnimeSuki should explain a lot:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=692452#post692452

[newy]

I agree with quekmeister. Why shouldn't she remember? She is part of the first ones and we do not know what happens to them if their abilities are sealed away or if they live in peace so they could live long.

[lStealtherl]

If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing. This is my favourite animes of Gainax, particularly the first installment. Epic, awesome animation, and doesn't devolve into ridiculousness as most of their longer series do.

[dbml]

I just finished Gunbuster. Now that is what I like seeing! Action drama at its finest. My only complaint was the black and white episode, but that's a minor issue. What an epic OVA.

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I cracked on the ending. After over 10,000 years... the earth puts up the "Welcome Back" sign for them on arrival. That was... sweet :'(