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Neon Genesis Evangelion [Again]
maxoutmaxima:
I'll tell you this, the first time I ever watched Eva ... i was like WTF is going on ... when i watched it again for the 10th time ... I was like WTF is still going on, this is bad ass!
dbml:
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--- Quote from: dbml on May 13, 2009, 04:44:26 PM ---I agree on all points, except with how good RahXephon was... but to each their own.
As for the cousin thing... they're not blood-related at all.
(click to show/hide)The only reason Haruka and Ayato have any relation to each other is by Haruka's uncle adopting Maya. So technically, Maya and Haruka are cousins by marriage (or whatever). If Maya was Ayato's mother, that's make them first cousins once removed by marriage only. But since Quon is his mother... it completely messes it up... I couldn't find anything to call that particular relation. So if it wasn't for the adoption, they wouldn't be related at all. So I can't really consider them cousins.
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People liking their cousins shouldn't be an issue anyway. It's only recently in history that a person's cousin became socially off-limits. It's just convention. If you look at it practically it doesn't even matter.
Attraction to your immediate family has some very troublesome social and psychological and some say genetic problems mixed up in it, but back in the old days people married their cousins all the time.
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Oh I agree. Just saying that they really aren't "cousins". But it wouldn't bother me if they were... since Haruka is a favorite of mine :D
I've seen Eva three or four times now. When I first saw it many, many years ago... I thought it was pretty damn good, outside of the crybaby. But as the years have gone by and I've been exposed to more and more anime, it's not nearly as good as I originally thought it was. At this point, the only saving grace for the series is Misato, cuz she is awesome. And don't even get me started on that garbage called the "End of Eva". Ugh.
GoGeTa006:
--- Quote from: quekmeister on May 13, 2009, 05:23:36 AM ---Oh come on, you seriously think Anno planned Eva? He's said in so many interviews that he was just 'going with the flow' and trying to mess with people as much as possible. After watching his other works, I seriously don't think he has that kind of capability.
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thats what I mean that it makes you wonder. .. its all soo awesomely connected!
its like. . .led zeppelin. . .
did they actually planned for their song to be played backwards and make it sound like they are talking about satan?
damm that backmasking.
--- Quote from: barcibus on May 13, 2009, 06:11:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: anerph on May 13, 2009, 01:08:06 PM ---I haven't watched the series of this yet, but I read the manga and was quite pleased with it. I didn't find Shinji too whiny in the manga so as long as he is about the same in the anime then I should be good. The only bad thing about the manga is that the battles are super confusing and don't make a lot of sense, since you don't really see whats going on. anyways, this is next on my list as a duo with interspersed episodes of School Days, just as soon as I finish Fate/Stay Night and Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei (also interspersed). Hope it can live up to the hype.
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Shinji is waaay tougher in the manga. And nothing can live up to that level of hype.
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I shall agree with that. . .shinji isnt as pussy in the manga as he is in the anime. . . the only part where I was like OMG! SHINJI IS THAT YOU? is when
(click to show/hide)he is choking asuka in the movie
thats when he had his mental breakdown and became a man.
quekmeister:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on May 13, 2009, 08:32:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: quekmeister on May 13, 2009, 05:23:36 AM ---Oh come on, you seriously think Anno planned Eva? He's said in so many interviews that he was just 'going with the flow' and trying to mess with people as much as possible. After watching his other works, I seriously don't think he has that kind of capability.
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thats what I mean that it makes you wonder. .. its all soo awesomely connected!
its like. . .led zeppelin. . .
did they actually planned for their song to be played backwards and make it sound like they are talking about satan?
damm that backmasking.
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It makes me wonder who really wrote Eva's plot, because I really don't think it was Anno... :P
I played it backwards and could only hear that song played backwards. I feel it's only people who already believe that there's something to be heard who hear it. Besides, it would be a ridiculously expensive way to spread the word of the devil. Same thing with The Eagles' Hotel California. :-\
Not to mention those people who first suggested it wouldn't know good music if it kicked them in the butt. They were trying to ban so-called offensive material like they still are now. It was all just rumour and lies to make people suspicious.
barcibus:
--- Quote from: maxoutmaxima on May 13, 2009, 07:31:16 PM ---I'll tell you this, the first time I ever watched Eva ... i was like WTF is going on ... when i watched it again for the 10th time ... I was like WTF is still going on, this is bad ass!
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I suggest reading up on it on the net. There's so much imagery in it borrowed from other works; made it more cool for me to find out where ideas were gathered from. Also, if you enjoy reading, I recommend Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke... it was a big influence on the core ideas of NGE. Turns out that book influenced lots of different works.
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