RNA spontaneously forms in laboratory experiment.

[relic2279]

Bit of a misleading title, I apologize and explain below.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227084.200-molecule-of-life-emerges-from-laboratory-slime.html
(also published in nature journal, but don't have the link)

“By changing the way we mix the ingredients together, we managed to make ribonucleotides,” said Sutherland. “The chemistry works very effectively from simple precursors, and the conditions required are not distinct from what one might imagine took place on the early Earth.”

Like other would-be nucleotide synthesizers, Sutherland’s team included phosphate in their mix, but rather than adding it to sugars and nucleobases, they started with an array of even simpler molecules that were probably also in Earth’s primordial ooze.

Playing devils advocate, technically, It's one of the steps towards RNA that have been recreated; just one of the nucleotides necessary. But the hurdle is creating the ribonucleotides, not chaining them together. All in all, one giant step closer to "spontaneously" creating life.


Edit: added second link which might be a bit more layman.

[AceHigh]

You failed to place it in the right section. General Discussions or maybe even Technology would be the place.

Article was interesting though.

[relic2279]

Anytime I post an article with a whiff of evolution, I get ripped a new one. I was trying to play it safe by posting it in politics since I guess evolution is political here on Box. We don't have a science topic.

[SeventyX7]

Anytime I post an article with a whiff of evolution, I get ripped a new one. I was trying to play it safe by posting it in politics since I guess evolution is political here on Box. We don't have a science topic.

I don't think it is.  That would imply that there are people on the board who believe in creationism, which is pretty preposterous. 

I don't know how it is in other countries, but in America, most people have integrated evolution into their ideas of how God created humans.

[relic2279]

That would imply that there are people on the board who believe in creationism, which is pretty preposterous. 

I provided a youtube link in a reply in which a known/very popular political figure borders on supporting creationism by stating (and I quote word for word): "I do not accept evolution", I called him a creationist because of his statement, and the topic got locked because of that statement. This took place in the political forum.

Thus my hesitation.

[AceHigh]

Anytime I post an article with a whiff of evolution, I get ripped a new one. I was trying to play it safe by posting it in politics since I guess evolution is political here on Box. We don't have a science topic.

I said Technology, not science. And as far as I know genetic engineering is a compatible with technology topic.

If someone believes in creationism, too bad for them because this topic would assume evolution as a fact. By putting it as a political issue you are actually disqualifying that assumption.

I don't know how it is in other countries, but in America, most people have integrated evolution into their ideas of how God created humans

Europe and a few other 1st world countries outside it believe in evolution, Muslim World believes in creationism and USA is right between those two (quite literally, it's over Turkey and below Cyprus).

So your statement is not correct, those pro and against evolution are 40/40 and the rest of 20% are not sure.

[molbjerg]

I love that chart.

Americans are retards.

[SeventyX7]

I've seen that chart before, and to be honest, I don't believe it.  In my entire life I haven't met a single person who believes in creationism.  Statistically, if 40% believe in creationism, there's like a 1/235235346 chance of that happening to me.

[mgz]

nope, its just the people in the middle of the country who dont have the best educations and do alot of farming

[AceHigh]

I've seen that chart before, and to be honest, I don't believe it.  In my entire life I haven't met a single person who believes in creationism.  Statistically, if 40% believe in creationism, there's like a 1/235235346 chance of that happening to me.

Have you been in Texas? 

[SeventyX7]

nope, its just the people in the middle of the country who dont have the best educations and do alot of farming

I live in Wisconsin and literally ALL my relatives are farmers.   

[Lucerin Red]

I wouldn't really call billions of dollars being dumped into to a scientific experiment to do this very thing spontaneous.

[vicious796]

Just wanna drop in and say that science and religion don't have to be seperate. Where did the molecules come from? Other molecules? Go back far enough and you, yourself, start to sound ridiculous.

[AceHigh]

No molecules are created when atoms bind together, common knowledge.

[SeventyX7]

I think what he's getting at is where did the first atoms come from. 

Science's answer = nucleosynthesis during first, like, 1/1000000000000000000000 of a second of the beginning of the universe.

[Lucerin Red]

I think what he's getting at is where did the first atoms come from. 

Science's answer = magic

[AceHigh]

Nevertheless, knowledge of genetics is neither a religion or politics, it is science and technology.

Just wanna drop in and say that science and religion don't have to be seperate.

Unless the bishops can explain what RNA is, religion has nothing to do with this and is not the same.

[relic2279]

If someone believes in creationism, too bad for them because this topic would assume evolution as a fact.

Exactly, but I don't think it assumes it as fact, unless you accept the evidence as a small step or proof that evolution to be true. Creationism involves believing the world is 6,000 years old. These are people who will find flaws in whatever proof you throw at them. eg. redemptionboy claims throwing money at the research isn't "spontaneous". (no offense) But they will always find loopholes and nothing will ever be fact to them.
 

I love that chart.
Americans are retards.

Yep. When it comes to religion dictating our government and actions, we're complete morons. Which is so ironic, it's hilarious and sickening as our First Amendment states:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

Yet they seem to have a stranglehold on American politics. Funny that...

[newy]

The everlasting battle between "creationism" and science is funny as always.

The article is quite interesting. But I thought some scientist succeeded with such an experiments years ago. Ah wait! That were just some organic molecules and not RNA.

[AceHigh]

If you want scientists to work faster, then we should exempt them from all moral based laws. Let them clone, mutate and do all that nasty shit. Let them do that in secret so that the population would live blissfully and happily.

Alas cloning a fucking sheep was too much for the world so we set ridiculous limits that is a hindrance to the scientists.