Author Topic: Kurenai (Read 4318 times)

GoGeTa006 · « **on:** May 17, 2009, 01:57:32 AM »

finished it. . .
how was it?

started out interesting. . .
went downhill
picked up
went good
exponential decay.

things i did not like

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couldve had more character development (from his past)

good
-characters. . .
-storyline
-not your average "gay guy living in a house full of girls"
-. . .
-characters . . .
-I wouldve liked it if he wouldve hooked up tho. cause that whore was all over him!

quekmeister · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2009, 03:19:24 AM »

Eh, I'm on episode two, and liking it so far.

Despite it being completely predictable, the little things that happen in their relationship (so far) are nice and sweet and blahblahblah. Yeah, okay, I'm watching this because it's by Brains Base. Brains Base has fkin rocked my socks for all their shows I've watched before this (Kamichu!, Baccano!, Natsume Yuujinchou), and so I decided I'm going to try some of their others.

Just started on this one and Gigantic Formula, and I'm liking both. Somehow each Brains Base show I watch has its own little quirks of animation and art that make me like them.

Oh, did I mention that I just watched the first ep of Denpa Teki na Kanojo, and it was fkin awesome?

Sorry, sleep deprived.

morrefule · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2009, 04:11:56 AM »

this isn't even on my things to watch list. I have heard many Negative things about the series. But i really don't have much to add from what you have already stated.

I heed warnings to stay away :-)

dbml · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2009, 04:21:04 AM »

Quote from: morrefule on May 17, 2009, 04:11:56 AM

this isn't even on my things to watch list. I have heard many Negative things about the series. But i really don't have much to add from what you have already stated.

I heed warnings to stay away :-)

It's not that bad of series. I enjoyed it for what it was: a decent series... despite some missing plot points and a lackluster (and open-ended) ending. But the ending is really open for interpretation... I didn't find it to be nearly as bad as others who have watched it.

morrefule · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2009, 04:27:59 AM »

Quote from: dbml on May 17, 2009, 04:21:04 AM

Quote from: morrefule on May 17, 2009, 04:11:56 AM
this isn't even on my things to watch list. I have heard many Negative things about the series. But i really don't have much to add from what you have already stated.

I heed warnings to stay away :-)

It's not that bad of series. I enjoyed it for what it was: a decent series... despite some missing plot points and a lackluster (and open-ended) ending. But the ending is really open for interpretation... I didn't find it to be nearly as bad as others who have watched it.

LoL, well I felt like i lost 5 hours of my life when I had to sit through watching Yumeria with a friend, and then another few hours watching Happy Lesson. From that, I decided not to burn horrific images into my mind anymore. And never to take any recomendations from that friend anymore

Tatsujin · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2009, 04:33:59 AM »

Quote from: dbml on May 17, 2009, 04:21:04 AM

Quote from: morrefule on May 17, 2009, 04:11:56 AM
this isn't even on my things to watch list. I have heard many Negative things about the series. But i really don't have much to add from what you have already stated.

I heed warnings to stay away :-)

It's not that bad of series. I enjoyed it for what it was: a decent series... despite some missing plot points and a lackluster (and open-ended) ending. But the ending is really open for interpretation... I didn't find it to be nearly as bad as others who have watched it.

Yea everything was great, until the last episode ... it shits over your feelings. Please man, there was ZERO DEVELOPMENT for the girl's story and they decided to just "hey, we're gonna throw this at you. bye!" in the last episode. Junk series ... if you plan on watching this, don't get your hopes so high ... I heard the manga is good, but what's so good about something that has no animation and no music and no voice acting?! That's one of my reasons for not reading manga. I like momentum.

dbml · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2009, 05:12:00 AM »

Quote from: morrefule on May 17, 2009, 04:27:59 AM

LoL, well I felt like i lost 5 hours of my life when I had to sit through watching Yumeria with a friend, and then another few hours watching Happy Lesson. From that, I decided not to burn horrific images into my mind anymore. And never to take any recomendations from that friend anymore

Haha, I've been there too. It sucks, doesn't it?

Quote from: Tatsujin on May 17, 2009, 04:33:59 AM

Yea everything was great, until the last episode ... it shits over your feelings. Please man, there was ZERO DEVELOPMENT for the girl's story and they decided to just "hey, we're gonna throw this at you. bye!" in the last episode. Junk series ... if you plan on watching this, don't get your hopes so high ... I heard the manga is good, but what's so good about something that has no animation and no music and no voice acting?! That's one of my reasons for not reading manga. I like momentum.

Totally overreacting about the end -_-

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ailailou · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2009, 05:32:04 AM »

Myeah, the ending wasn't as good as I expected, and the rest of the episodes weren't good enough to eclipse the last one.
But, what I really like Kurenai for is it's animation. I appreciate the animation because it is fluid and realistic, overall very good.

quekmeister · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2009, 05:34:37 AM »

Quote from: Tatsujin on May 17, 2009, 04:33:59 AM

Yea everything was great, until the last episode ... it shits over your feelings. Please man, there was ZERO DEVELOPMENT for the girl's story and they decided to just "hey, we're gonna throw this at you. bye!" in the last episode. Junk series ... if you plan on watching this, don't get your hopes so high ... I heard the manga is good, but what's so good about something that has no animation and no music and no voice acting?! That's one of my reasons for not reading manga. I like momentum.

I try to go into every series with an open mind, so I am not easily disappointed.

As to the manga reading bit:
*Tatsujin opens a large can of worms.*
No animation - made up for with A LITTLE IMAGINATION.
No music - PUT ON YOUR FAVOURITE TRACKS.
NO VOICE ACTING - How did everyone live in the days of no TV, or no radio or no language?

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2009, 06:24:43 AM »

Quote from: morrefule on May 17, 2009, 04:11:56 AM

this isn't even on my things to watch list. I have heard many Negative things about the series. But i really don't have much to add from what you have already stated.

I heed warnings to stay away :-)

dlnt take it like that

I would actually recommend it. . .its not bad at all but just as tatsu said. . .there were some things that just made it. . . drop down a bit. . . Id give it 7.8/10

Tatsujin · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2009, 06:33:55 AM »

Quote from: quekmeister on May 17, 2009, 05:34:37 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on May 17, 2009, 04:33:59 AM
Yea everything was great, until the last episode ... it shits over your feelings. Please man, there was ZERO DEVELOPMENT for the girl's story and they decided to just "hey, we're gonna throw this at you. bye!" in the last episode. Junk series ... if you plan on watching this, don't get your hopes so high ... I heard the manga is good, but what's so good about something that has no animation and no music and no voice acting?! That's one of my reasons for not reading manga. I like momentum.
I try to go into every series with an open mind, so I am not easily disappointed.

As to the manga reading bit:
*Tatsujin opens a large can of worms.*
No animation - made up for with A LITTLE IMAGINATION.
No music - PUT ON YOUR FAVOURITE TRACKS.
NO VOICE ACTING - How did everyone live in the days of no TV, or no radio or no language?

You're not the only one who told me that. Unfortunality, I am not a manga person. My reasons are valid enough. Anime > Manga.

And I am going to watch Kurenai again to give it another shot, but really ... There was no development for the girl what-so-ever and all the sudden some new shit pops out of no where on the last episode .. on the last episode? How many fucking anime out there that actually come up with that conclusion and it ended in horror/disaster for many watchers? It ended just like that and my opinion, the ending sucks major ass. Flawed ending.

Edit @ GoGeTa -- It's going to end as a 3/5 on my website, not recommended.

zherok · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2009, 07:10:36 AM »

Quote from: dbml on May 17, 2009, 05:12:00 AM

Totally overreacting about the end -_-
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The way the father (err... the older guy... I think it's her father iirc) acted at the end, and started treating her like a normal girl and not someone who's just supposed to pop out kids was a good sign. I personally thought that he'd give up on that idea and let her live a (somewhat) normal life. At least that's what I'll always think *looks at the ending as a half full glass instead of half empty*

I think it kinda amounts to the punchline at the end of this comic.

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Wikipedia suggests the anime deviates from the original source in tone, specifically in its slice of life focus. Since that's pretty much what made the show interesting, and its all the other bits that dragged it down, I suspect it could have been rewritten with a less specific tone and been more enjoyable as a more traditional slice of life series. Boring maybe, but at least not retarded. I don't even think its a fault of the original source, so much as its an issue of not having enough of it within the series to have a clue what's going on whenever they bring up those details. So many of the characters have backgrounds but you're never told enough to care. And the way the ending is carried out its hard to take the

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style plot seriously.

Tatsujin · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2009, 07:29:33 AM »

Quote from: zherok on May 17, 2009, 07:10:36 AM

Quote from: dbml on May 17, 2009, 05:12:00 AM
Totally overreacting about the end -_-
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The way the father (err... the older guy... I think it's her father iirc) acted at the end, and started treating her like a normal girl and not someone who's just supposed to pop out kids was a good sign. I personally thought that he'd give up on that idea and let her live a (somewhat) normal life. At least that's what I'll always think *looks at the ending as a half full glass instead of half empty*
I think it kinda amounts to the punchline at the end of this comic.
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Yes, its a marked improvement over an incestuous relationship perpetuated unto the next generation. That doesn't absolve him of his previous actions though. Someone is clearly doing their job horribly wrong. I wouldn't start handing out "World's Greatest Dad" coffee mugs to the guy yet.

Wikipedia suggests the anime deviates from the original source in tone, specifically in its slice of life focus. Since that's pretty much what made the show interesting, and its all the other bits that dragged it down, I suspect it could have been rewritten with a less specific tone and been more enjoyable as a more traditional slice of life series. Boring maybe, but at least not retarded. I don't even think its a fault of the original source, so much as its an issue of not having enough of it within the series to have a clue what's going on whenever they bring up those details. So many of the characters have backgrounds but you're never told enough to care. And the way the ending is carried out its hard to take the
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"Old Boy" twist
style plot seriously.

I still don't understand ...

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Insanity · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2009, 07:52:07 AM »

Kurenai?

This is the only thing that comes to my mind when I read kurenai

>.>

So out of curiosity, what does Kurenai mean in japanese?

zherok · « **Reply #14 on:** May 17, 2009, 08:10:01 AM »

Kurenai (紅) is Japanese name meaning crimson.

Quote from: Tatsujin on May 17, 2009, 07:29:33 AM

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The thing that's in that kid's arm. He is dead but resurrected? And the only thing that is keeping him alive is whatever that is inside his body? BTW, I totally liked the girl's bodygurad (whatever her name is) and she was by far one of my favorite characters in the series; totally would bite her ass and lips. But again ... lack of story, lack of content. Hmph.

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But yeah, you're never given enough details about the setting for anything to make enough sense to get to a point where you care.

ray1301 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 17, 2009, 12:31:54 PM »

General consensus the ending was poor, but I thought it was alright besides that. I liked the randomness of the singing part where everyone for some reason started to sing as if it was a natural thing to do, and with that said I'll rewatch that scene on youtube :p

MTR · « **Reply #16 on:** May 17, 2009, 12:34:53 PM »

I believe I gave Kurenai a 9. I watched it during it's original run and followed it all the way through. I loved the show initially and in the middle it got to be pretty awesome, but like it's been said, the ending really took a nose dive and that is why I never gave it a 10. Other than the ending, which really wasn't horrible, it was just unsatisfactory, it's a pretty enjoyable show.

Decado1 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 17, 2009, 03:55:51 PM »

I think I'd give it a 7. Started off really well, but I had trouble seeing the point of the middle episodes. It's like they couldn't figure out how to develop the characters so they shoved in a slice-of-life anime right in the middle. The show could have easily been a 6 episode OVA and have been far better for it.

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2009, 04:37:36 AM »

Quote from: Decado1 on May 17, 2009, 03:55:51 PM

I think I'd give it a 7. Started off really well, but I had trouble seeing the point of the middle episodes. It's like they couldn't figure out how to develop the characters so they shoved in a slice-of-life anime right in the middle. The show could have easily been a 6 episode OVA and have been far better for it.

the only episode i believe was totally worthless was the one of the musical. . .
the only good thing and it wasnt so good was the whore all over him =)
i wouldve liked to see more of that relationship developing

zherok · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2009, 05:49:33 AM »

Slice of life by definition doesn't really need a point. And if you removed that aspect from the series... well I suspect the light novels have a point, but in just what they included in the anime, there just isn't enough details to have much to go on.