Author Topic: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?  (Read 4792 times)

Offline Haggath

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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2009, 07:27:11 AM »
Many different versions of muumins have been produced in many different countries (even in the Soviet Union if I'm not mistaken) and it has been especially popular on Japan so no wonder theres an anime version of it too, but thats propably not the version you've seen as kids.

I beg to differ. Originally, the Moomin aired in Japan in the beginning of the 70s, and the show was vastly different from the ones produced twenty years later - so different, in fact, that Tove Jansson agreed it to be aired on the condition that it wouldn't be distributed outside Japan.

The newest Moomin series, the Japanese/Finnish version, aired in 1990 and was followed by a one-season sequel as well as a movie. This 're-make' is credited to be the one that sparked the popularity in Finland, Japan, and in other countries. According to wiki, no other series have been created in Japan since, so I think it's safe to assume that we watched the same series as the Japanese (with different dubs, of course) when we were children.

The slight difference in art Daggerlite mentioned might be just due the fact that the art of the original series changed in the last twenty chapters or so, making it slightly more 'anime-like'.

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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2009, 08:06:00 AM »
Many different versions of muumins have been produced in many different countries (even in the Soviet Union if I'm not mistaken) and it has been especially popular on Japan so no wonder theres an anime version of it too, but thats propably not the version you've seen as kids.

I beg to differ. Originally, the Moomin aired in Japan in the beginning of the 70s, and the show was vastly different from the ones produced twenty years later - so different, in fact, that Tove Jansson agreed it to be aired on the condition that it wouldn't be distributed outside Japan.

The newest Moomin series, the Japanese/Finnish version, aired in 1990 and was followed by a one-season sequel as well as a movie. This 're-make' is credited to be the one that sparked the popularity in Finland, Japan, and in other countries. According to wiki, no other series have been created in Japan since, so I think it's safe to assume that we watched the same series as the Japanese (with different dubs, of course) when we were children.



Ok I checked this out from a site of a finnish tv station and it appears that you're right
I trust wikipedia even less now <.<

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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2009, 08:23:24 AM »
Haha, Moomin has to be one of the greatest series there is!
I remember watching it when i was a kid. It was on Swedish and the characters had a finnish accent.
It written by a Finnish female writer named Tove Jansson. May she rest in peace. :)

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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2009, 05:23:52 PM »
The slight difference in art Daggerlite mentioned might be just due the fact that the art of the original series changed in the last twenty chapters or so, making it slightly more 'anime-like'.
Just to clarify: I wrote that the art style was very similar from what I could remember, not different. I didn't want to claim they were the same, since my memory isn't too clear on that point.

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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2009, 06:42:17 PM »
Yep..

but now when you are older I'm sure you might say: "No that couldnt be ANIME?!?" Its just so funny to think how animes has been changed from 'those old days'

Well yea.. When i was something around 10-12 year old it runned on TV Sailor Moon on SWEDISH DUB! :D and it was really funny to watch it..

 But it was pretty normal that all those old 'animes' were dubbed into your own language. :P

Did also watch Sailor Moon on Swedish TV4 back in the days, though was considered a Kids Cartoon back then much like Pokemon some years later. Think anime still ain't relly considered "mature" over here as it is an "cartoon" :(

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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2009, 07:43:34 PM »
Yep..

but now when you are older I'm sure you might say: "No that couldnt be ANIME?!?" Its just so funny to think how animes has been changed from 'those old days'

Well yea.. When i was something around 10-12 year old it runned on TV Sailor Moon on SWEDISH DUB! :D and it was really funny to watch it..

 But it was pretty normal that all those old 'animes' were dubbed into your own language. :P

Did also watch Sailor Moon on Swedish TV4 back in the days, though was considered a Kids Cartoon back then much like Pokemon some years later. Think anime still ain't relly considered "mature" over here as it is an "cartoon" :(

Yeah i did that too. Do you remember the last episode they aired? It was the one when Chibi-Usa is the adult "Svarta ladyn" form.  ;)
She is hovering in the air at the end of the episode and the next day they start from the very first season again..
I got so damn pissed every time it happened.  >:(

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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2009, 02:14:18 PM »
i saw Ultimate Muscle on anime-planet, and thought noooooooooooo

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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2009, 02:33:22 PM »
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-Nils no Fushigi na Tabi [aka. Wonderful Adventures of Nils]
-Tao Tao
-Ahiru no Quack [aka. Alfred J. Kwak]
-Tanoshii Muumin Ikka [aka. Moomin]

Also theres only that problem that none of these hasnt even subbed.. so its kinda too bad that they cant be offered to BxT.  :'(
Many of these are pretty old animes too.. :S
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If I'm not mistaken, this is actually the job of the current Box Fansubs group, to fansub old anime that no one else cares about any more.
So, if you care about them, you can probably get into subbing and uploading those.


As for the topic of this thread, I guess I always knew some of the "old cartoons" were characteristically different from Warner Bros., or Hannah-Barbera cartoons. However, at that time I didn't know the word "anime". I started using it consistently only after Dragon Ball.
Then it became possible to call all of the previous "Japanese cartoons with the big eyes" anime.
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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2009, 05:52:06 AM »
Well, Ahiru no Quack [aka. Alfred J. Kwak] is subs to dutch so no problem for me :P
....But still I know for sure is was english / dutch audio to.....
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2009, 02:45:05 PM »
oh no Alfred J Kwak really brings back memories
i still know the theme songs after like 12 years  :D

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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2009, 11:39:02 PM »
Oh, I just remembered this.

Which cartoon made me say: "it is anime?! WTF?!"
Answer: the Thunder-fucking-cats

Thundercats
This series may have been produced entirely in the US, thus making it by definition non-anime, but it definitely has some anime influence.

I just want you to remember a few things about this series:
  • Colorful, bright, fast paced, good animation in the opening.
  • Some really good drawings of structures, castles, pyramids, the ending, and in general, backgrounds of stuff.
  • Transformation-like sequences when Lion-O uses his sword, or Mumm-Ra transforms, and similar events. These sequences always had a distinctly better animation.
  • Starts with monster-of-day episodes, and eventually evolves to an epic plot involving space traveling to rebuild their home planet.
  • Epic battles with Mumm-Ra, who once or twice becomes giant and almost crushes the cats, but is defeated, and the ancient gods decide to punish him... but he returns of course!
  • A lot of technological gadgets.
  • Look at the credits, there are some people with Japanese names! Probably influenced the whole thing!

I never considered the Thundercats as anime, however it definitely stood out.

It was only recently that I rewatched some of the episodes and realized those points I mentioned above.

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« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2013, 06:26:51 AM »
Well, Ahiru no Quack [aka. Alfred J. Kwak] is subs to dutch so no problem for me :P
....But still I know for sure is was english / dutch audio to.....

Hm ... http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1049

This looks interesting .. http://wonderduck.mu.nu/ducks_in_anime/the_greatest_anime_ever.

52 episodes from 1989, a hot african girl duck with neck extension rings, battling adolph hitler, it sounds fascinating.

this is actually the job of the current Box Fansubs group, to fansub old anime that no one else cares about any more. So, if you care about them, you can probably get into subbing and uploading those.
Based on the name of this group, it appears to be associated with BoxTorrents. Now that's it's BakaTorrents do you know if the group revived under some kind of "BakaFansubs" label?

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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2013, 06:43:44 AM »
I never knew Speed Racer was an Anime for the longest time. And hell, the only reason I knew that Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, and Gundam Wing were Anime was because that's what it was called on Cartoon Network, during Toonami or something.

Looking at this list sure brings back memories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toonami#Programs_list

I must have stopped watching it before 2000 though, cause I never saw any of those except Gundam Wing.

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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2013, 06:46:25 AM »
I'm unclear as to what Transformers was anime was what wasn't. I know some of it is produced in Japan... I think it was at least.

Oh, we had Cybersix on television here a few years ago -- apparently it's anime? It's on Baka anyways.
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Re: WTF?!?!? IT IS ANIME?!?
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2013, 07:22:50 AM »
Pokemon, I always thought those were cartoons