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Open Video on a more Open Internet
dankles:
Sorry for the double post, but damn! Webkit is fast as hell!!! Widgets sometimes look funny in arura, but thats a QT thing... The page rendering speed is great!!
I'm buying a mac, it's settled now
bloody000:
Fx 3.5 only does theora/vorbis, and Safari 4 uses the superior H.264/AAC.
Not sure about Opera, but I'm going to switch back to it when 10 comes out anyway.
dankles:
--- Quote from: bloody000 on June 03, 2009, 06:01:18 PM ---Fx 3.5 only does theora/vorbis, and Safari 4 uses the superior H.264/AAC.
Not sure about Opera, but I'm going to switch back to it when 10 comes out anyway.
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I feel kinda like Eugenia Loli-Queru in this article:
--- Quote ---Truth is, I prefer open standards and open source and Free Software and what not, over proprietary royalty/patent-ridden solutions. But pictures (and videos) don't lie. Theora is simply not at the same league as h.264. Vorbis fairs well compared to the big 3 audio formats, but Theora is visibly worse in comparison. By their own admission in the past, the Theora developers had to use less efficient algorithms to go around patents. This sucks of course, but it all comes down to this: do you want an open FOSS solution, or you want the best solution? Many readers on OSNews will choose the first option, but their teenager brother would probably choose the second.
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So I'm sort of at odds with my self. However, the main reason Theora isn't as good is because of the patent issues (I dislike software patents, though that is another story).
However, I still feel that mozilla's choice is a step in the right direction. And super HQ media isn't always needed for everything either. Like from now on (or after FF3.5) I can embed my vlogs directly into the browser ;D
iindigo:
One thing that helps WebKit out tremendously in the speed category is the fact that it isn't dragging a ton of other stuff along with it. Firefox and other Mozilla-based products have XUL tacked on, bloating things considerably.
Not saying Firefox isn't a good product (it is) but it could be better.
dankles:
Codec debate for the HTML 5 video element:
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/07/decoding-the-html-5-video-codec-debate.ars
It is basically split between two: Ogg Theora and H.264.
I'm in favor of either having both or just Ogg Theora. Cuz open codecs need more support even if they arent the best (the only reason Theora isn't better than it is, is because of efing software patents >:( )
EDIT:
O yeah, IE isn't in the article.... I'm guessing cuz they don't have plans to even support the <video> tag yet. Can anyone confirm?
And H.264 patents expire in roughly 2025.... So maybe we can all get along in 15 years ^^
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